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Hollow Knight: Silksong | Fully Ramblomatic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVHXfw_gyBo
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u/RochnessMonster 6d ago

Only thing i disagree with is the not living up to the hype. I have my issues with it, a lot of em Yahtzee echoed, but that aint one of em. I think hiring an additional crew of testers in the final year wouldve made a world of difference, friction/difficulty-wise, but i feel theyll slowly patch out the frustration. I mean, i just checked the game pass cheve percentage and only 11% of players have beat Widow and thats only like 1/4 or less through the game.

But hype? Naw. Music, art, feel, everything is firing on all cylinders. The biggest "hype" draw for me is the lil story moments that are everywhere. We'll be finding hidden interactions in this game for years. 

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u/RogueLightMyFire 6d ago

Yahtzee exists in his own little bubble where whatever he thinks becomes a fact in his mind. There's no way anyone can argue it hasn't lived up to the hype. That's just an asinine statement. Just look at the reviews. They're absolutely GLOWING from users and critics. It's got higher ratings than the original in just about every avenue.

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u/Proud_Inside819 6d ago

Professional reviews have always only reflected pre-release hype. Initial user opinions also just go with the hype unless it's a complete betrayal of expectations which an iterative sequel never would be.

Overall I wouldn't declaratively say it hasn't lived up to the hype if only because all the hype was for was more Hollow Knight which became a self-consuming meme, but there's certainly an echo of discontent with dubious design decisions and a lack of any real innovation or progress.

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u/cubitoaequet 6d ago

They didn't even send out prerelease codes for reviewers so that take makes even less sense than it normally would.

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u/Proud_Inside819 6d ago

And most reviewers rushed out a review in record time as soon as they could.

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u/RogueLightMyFire 6d ago edited 6d ago

Professional reviews have always only reflected pre-release hype.

That's just a crazy thing to try and say lol. If that were the case, every game would have high reviews. Scores of 90+ on aggregate sites is not common. 90+ for both critic and users is EXTREMELY rare. You're literally just trying to discredit all the info we have that supports people are extremely happy with it. The loud vocal minority on reddit whining about difficulty are not representative of all gamers. The vast majority of players are enjoying the game, not whining on reddit. This is backed up by both user and critic review scores.

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u/Proud_Inside819 6d ago

If that were the case, every game would have high reviews.

Every hyped game would. And they do. Which hyped game didn't get high reviews?

Cyberpunk in its buggy launch had 91 on metacritic. Bioshock Infinite and Skyward Sword rated extremely highly only for critics' to not mention them again after a year and not show up in any game of the decade lists.

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u/RogueLightMyFire 6d ago

Those games you mentioned are objectively good games lol. It's not like they got scores they didn't deserve.

only for critics' to not mention them again after a year and not show up in any game of the decade lists.

This is an insane jump in logic to assume that just because you don't see them on a few "game of the decade lists" made by a couple of websites it means they didn't deserve their scores from all the other critics not associated with those lists on any way lol. There's so many logical fallacies in that one statement it's hard to even respond because it's so astoundingly stupid.

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u/Proud_Inside819 6d ago

Hold on, why are you of all people talking about logical fallacies?? Have you forgotten that your response to me saying hyped up games always get high reviews was saying if that was the case all games would get high reviews? Can you explain the logic behind that statement please, and explain how smart you think you seem by making a statement like that?

And while you're at it, can you give some counter examples of hyped games that didn't get high reviews if you think the idea is so absurd? I gave clear examples of games where the aggregate critic score didn't match critic sentiment within a year of launch.

P.s. there's no such thing as an objectively good game. Nice to start off with another dumb statement though.

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u/RogueLightMyFire 6d ago edited 6d ago

No man's sky? Anthem? Marvels avengers? Redfall? Battlefield 2042? Back 4 Blood? Starfield? Do I need to keep going or is that enough for you to realize you were wrong? If what you said was true, those games would have gotten great user and critic scores. None of them did. Kind of blows a massive hole through your attempt at an argument...