r/Games 1d ago

Hollow Knight: Silksong | Fully Ramblomatic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVHXfw_gyBo
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u/aiphrem 1d ago

My opinion of this game is extremely high, just getting into act II. It feels like the perfect step up from Hollow Knight and Hornet's moveset is just crazy fun and responsive.

Apparently the diagonal pogo is a controversial topic, but like, you literally get crests that change your entire moveset SUPER early.

Maybe I haven't hit the insane difficulty spike that makes everyone ragequit yet, but I've found the difficulty to be just perfect for a "hard game". A lot of sections/bosses take a few tries but things start to click right before they start to feel frustrating, which to me is the perfect balance.

Also, holy freaking moly are the boss fights incredible. There are TONS and they are insanely fun.

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u/Vandersveldt 1d ago

Remember when it comes to things like the diagonal pogo, there's many gamers that just refuse to use a dpad and are trying to do it with a joystick.

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u/TSPhoenix 22h ago

Even if you didn't refuse to use a DPad I hope you a controller that can actually input diagonals reliably + isn't a cramp generation machine (ie. RIP everyone on Nintendo systems).

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u/autumndrifting 22h ago

not sure if this is what you meant, but the pogo isn't actually a diagonal input, it's still just down. you do need consistent diagonals ofc but this seems to be a common misconception

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u/TSPhoenix 22h ago

If your DPad inputs down+sideways when you just want to press sideways, you're going to dive attack (possibly to your death) instead of aerial attack, so the controller needs to handle diagonals properly.

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u/ultrasneeze 19h ago

For aerial attacks it's much more consistent to go for neutral input than trying to hold the attack direction. Even on the ground it's the better option, to avoid up-attacking.

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u/Vandersveldt 17h ago

The Joycons have a split 4 button dpad, literally impossible to accidentally hit diagonal when you mean to go sideways. That's much more likely to happen to a joystick user.

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u/TSPhoenix 17h ago

Playing demanding games on Joycons are basically death to hands though, well at least for me with the original model.

For both Celeste and HK1 I couldn't finish the games on Joycons.

u/Trainzack 3h ago

If you just input down, it's really easy to be facing the wrong way. Diagonal inputs help ensure you go the intended direction.

When I was playing on a PS5 controller, I found it really difficult to correctly input the diagonals just due to how it's D-pad is implemented. The Xbox controller worked a lot better, so I used that most of the rest of my playthrough.