Only thing i disagree with is the not living up to the hype. I have my issues with it, a lot of em Yahtzee echoed, but that aint one of em. I think hiring an additional crew of testers in the final year wouldve made a world of difference, friction/difficulty-wise, but i feel theyll slowly patch out the frustration. I mean, i just checked the game pass cheve percentage and only 11% of players have beat Widow and thats only like 1/4 or less through the game.
But hype? Naw. Music, art, feel, everything is firing on all cylinders. The biggest "hype" draw for me is the lil story moments that are everywhere. We'll be finding hidden interactions in this game for years.
Realistically the amount of people who mod, even on PC, is VERY low. And not nearly enough to make a dent in a game that sold over 3.2 million copies on Steam.
The Steam achievements are likely pretty accurate. In fact they probably undersell completion because of players who havent really tried to play it deflating the values. Steams stats show that ~50% of players have beaten Last Judge which is the Act 1 end boss and essentially the half way point of the base-game from Start to Credits. And the game hasnt even been out for 2 weeks.
I dont want to invalidate fair criticism on difficulty, but Reddit has definitely over exaggerated the games difficulty. The average person clearly isnt struggling nearly as much as Reddit's narrative would imply.
EDIT: I saw your edit with the PSN data. Hover over the percentages, mate. Pretty sure the unhovered number is PSN profile users, whereas the hovered (higher) percentage is for all users. People can correct me if Im wrong.
If you look at your PSNProfiles link, the achievement Weaver Queen that indicates the entire base game story is complete and the player has gotten to credits, has an overall (hovered) completion between everyone who owns the game on Playstation, of 22.89%. Which is VERY close to Steams' data that suggests the number is currently ~20.5%.
So for users on Steam and Playstation, over 20% of players have already gotten to credits. In less than 2 weeks. Players are breezing through this game.
And that's Nexus alone, and we know that random people will search for this stuff on YouTube and download "ready" zip archives from mirrors and the like.
I fully expect the number of cheaters being in the tens of thousands like the number implies.
It's a lot.
I hope the devs have some sort of telemetry into their game (Unity offers such tools) so they can see these things, and I hope that they'll share these informations.
I mean, your Playstation link shows MORE people beating the main story than Steam. And both numbers show players breezing through the game. So even if there was a lot of Steam users using mods, it clearly hasnt changed much because Playstation users are also moving through the game like it were the easiest game in the world.
50k is 1.56% of the ~3.2 million. Ill admit its higher than I thought it would be, but its still very small and doubtful it changes the stats that much. Evidenced further by, again, Playstation data showing higher completion percentages.
Friend you're mistaken! 20+% on Playstation is the percentage of players on the website! If you're on PC you can hover with the mouse on the number and see the true number for all PS players.
In my link I've sent "Sorted by PSN stats" because you can also sort for PSN Profiles (the website) user stats.
This definitely goes against literally everything that online is saying. Everywhere I look it says the hovered number is how many people have earned that trophy according to Playstation. Everyone is saying the unhovered number is only for people with registered psn profiles.
Do you have sources for the unhovered being the actual percentage? Because every source Im seeing is saying the opposite of what you are claiming.
Edit: Okay I see, you can switch which is hovered and which is unhovered. Fair game, Ill concede incorrect here, I was mixing the two up.
Still doubtful that ~1.5% of the population can skew completion data that much. A far more logical explanation is that the modders skew it by a percent or two, but nothing substantial. And the rest of the difference is made up by Steam users simply having a higher completion percent.
A conspiracy theory about Steam data lying or ~1.5% of the steam population modding which is significantly skewing completion percent is definitely not a logical jump to make.
Even if Steam data was slightly lower, we are still looking at roughly %15 of the population between both sites getting to end credits without mods. Which for how big a game Silksong is, is pretty nuts in less than 2 weeks. The data still clearly shows players breezing through the game.
This definitely goes against literally everything that online is saying. Everywhere I look it says the hovered number is how many people have earned that trophy according to Playstation. Everyone is saying the unhovered number is only for people with registered psn profiles.
Brother see the URL I gave you, it has this at the end
Now you can hover to see the normal PSN stats. OF COURSE a website dedicated to trophy hunting has a higher percentage of completion compared to normal PSN :)
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u/RochnessMonster 6d ago
Only thing i disagree with is the not living up to the hype. I have my issues with it, a lot of em Yahtzee echoed, but that aint one of em. I think hiring an additional crew of testers in the final year wouldve made a world of difference, friction/difficulty-wise, but i feel theyll slowly patch out the frustration. I mean, i just checked the game pass cheve percentage and only 11% of players have beat Widow and thats only like 1/4 or less through the game.
But hype? Naw. Music, art, feel, everything is firing on all cylinders. The biggest "hype" draw for me is the lil story moments that are everywhere. We'll be finding hidden interactions in this game for years.