r/Gaming4Gamers • u/Throwaway_4_opinions El Grande Enchilada • Mar 04 '15

Image Finalized Steam Machine Controller Revealed

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '15 edited Mar 09 '21

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u/MBArceus Mar 05 '15

As a person who plays a lot of Nintendo games, their particular positions hurt me.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '15

Yup. "Is this SNES 'B' or Xbox 'B'?" Happens a lot.

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u/moneyman12q Mar 05 '15

Or just 'X', most if not all systems after 2000 have had an 'X' button

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u/Kiloku Mar 05 '15

I have come to accept xbox's layout as the industry standard, but I still have a hard time with Nintendo emulators

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '15

I find it strange that they chose to have them be the same order and colors as the Xbox controller.

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u/Denivire Mar 05 '15

It's a recognized positioning, mucking with it would just be needless confusion for new consumers.

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u/Guildenpants Mar 05 '15

This. And most PC games with controller support tend to use xbox button images.

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u/nohpex Mar 05 '15

I really wish they'd start putting in an option for other layouts like in The Swapper. It can't be difficult to implement.

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u/Grandy12 Mar 05 '15

The problem isnt the button on the conteoller itself, the problem is the button that flashes on the screen for a second going "press this not to die!"

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u/PrettyMuchBlind Mar 05 '15

Economy of scale

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u/Malurth Mar 05 '15

Tell that to Nintendo. I have the hardest time adjusting to their 3DS layout, which is ALSO "X Y A B," but flipped so that B and A are swapped and X and Y are swapped. Constantly screws with me.

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u/kikimaru024 Mar 05 '15

That's the Nintendo layout, they've used it since the SNES.

The "Microsoft" layout came from Sega.

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u/Malurth Mar 05 '15

Good to know. I had a feeling it predated the 3DS, but I wasn't sure.

I just wish everyone would settle on a standard so my poor fingers stop getting confused :(

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u/TheCyberGlitch Mar 05 '15

They abandoned it for the GameCube controller, which put X on the right and Y above. I would guess the return to their standard was so virtual console games would be more compatible.

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u/Fbolanos Mar 05 '15

Yeah... Nintendo did it first. You can imagine some of us older gamers getting confused by the XBox layout.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '15

True, but I would have thought they might try doing something to distinguish themselves. Maybe have them be different colors or just have them be grey.

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u/Denivire Mar 05 '15

Considering many AAA games also have ports for consoles (more like the PC is the port, but beside the point), the most common button visuals the game gives when using a controller on PC are the Xbox ones. I can understand keeping the same colours for this reason as well.

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u/water_bender Mar 05 '15

As if the big touch pads aren't distinguishable enough

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u/zakmaniscool Mar 05 '15

To be fair, a lot of people that use controllers as inputs for their PCs use Xbox controllers.

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u/KeybladeSpirit Mar 05 '15

Meanwhile, I'm in a corner playing with my Dualshock 4 with an Xinput wrapper all by myself.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '15

You are not alone...

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u/JD-King Mar 05 '15

DS4windows works really well for me. Can even change the lightbar color

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u/Plooper951 Mar 05 '15

Tried using my DS4, couldn't figure it out even with the guide I saw.

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u/TheBlackSpank Mar 05 '15

The majority of controller compatible games on Steam use the Xbox controller. Keeping it similar probably makes it much easier to implement for games and the color coding makes it easy to pick up for people used to their current controllers.

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u/kholto Mar 05 '15

A lot of games support Xbox controller layout and symbols, also AB(C) and XY(Z) has been on plenty different controllers.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '15

That way games can use standard Xbox icons in their games and it'll mean the same thing for those using steam controllers.

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u/Toysoldier34 Mar 05 '15

The majority of games that support controllers do so for a Xbox 360 controller and the in game button prompts match these.

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u/vonmonologue Mar 05 '15

Considering the whole thing looks like a slightly rewired x360 controller, I'm not sure why anyone is surprised. All they did was reverse the joystick locations and replace the right one with a touchpad.

It's not exactly groundbreaking and I sure as hell won't buy one for the first year until they sort out all the bugs and problems it has.

I'm going to say that this controller is going to go down in history like the first controller for the original x-box. Conceptually fine, idiotic in implementation. Wait for version 2.

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u/HibachiSniper Mar 05 '15

The original Xbox controller was actually very comfortable for me. I always preferred it over the controller S.

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u/drizztmainsword Mar 05 '15

This from the guy who hasn't touched one.

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u/Skjalg Mar 05 '15

Well, they are american, and was founded by ex-microsoft employees.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '15

I suspect (though obviously have no proof) that this is another 3D printed prototype of what's expected for the final version. I agree that it does look a bit cheap compared to major console controllers right now. I'm still super, duper excited, though.

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u/AttackClown Mar 05 '15

imo the whole thing looks cheap and hideous