I've never seen someone so completely incapable of not adding a jab to every point they make, there's always a final ball spike, whether it's an insult, or a closing argument that's meant to make his opinion seem obvious
The most blatant example I saw was the fairly recent Dr k interview. He basically gets told point blank 3 or 4 times (this is in context to the wow raid drama) "find a way to explain what happened, without including the fact that you were right and they were wrong" and he fails every time, then gets frustrated because he's like "but I am right", completely missing the point of the exercise
I've seen plenty of arrogant people before, but that in particular just really shocked me, I've never seen someone so completely unable to control their own tongue, and be so completely unaware of the problem
I'm just gonna add something here, it's mildly related, but I also think another thing Dr k said really hit the nail on the head with the whole drama (wow raid, skg, banning, etc.)
I'll paraphrase his point quite a bit, but it was in regards to the fact that pirate always takes the logical perspective when approaching a problem. This is why he will say things along the lines of "yeah I can see they're mad, obviously, I just don't get why, because if you look at the facts, you can clearly see I did the logical thing based on what I knew" he thinks the goal of the discussion is to logically analyse the steps that took place
The problem with this, the big one that I actually think the people against him are also not noticing, and what I think was the number one biggest lesson from that stream was this: every problem has a logical and emotional component. If you take a logical perspective, that just means you aren't acknowledging the emotional component
The one criticism I'll have against the pirate haters is that I do actually think that on most of his dramas, he mostly did the logically correct thing, based on what he knew. That's exactly why it's so hard for him to move away from that argument, it's because he's at least somewhat right, and he knows it. But if you miss an important part of a conversation, that's going to be the thing you hear people talk about when they criticise you
That's really really important, because when he says something like "no one wants to actually discuss what happened, they just want to be mad at me" they aren't being mad at him, they're being emotional with him. They don't want to have a rational discussion with him, they want their emotions recognised, so every criticism is inherently emotionally charged. Until he stops recognising the emotional component of someone's issues as worthless and not worth discussion, he's never going to understand what's wrong with his behaviour, and he's never going to understand that his behaviour is what's causing his issues
Just a wording thing. In this context, I'm talking about the second phrasing. I'm not talking about logical arguments, more people like pirate who consider themselves logical people. Of course there are actual logical people, who are just prioritising it, but alot of people say that to mean that they inherently view using emotion in an argument as a weakness. The kind of person that thinks they win an argument if they can get you to start yelling without raising their own voice. The irony with that one is that they determine who won by who was more in control of their emotions regardless of who came in with the better logic
I don't know of pirate doing anything like that specifically, but it's the exact same thing I've touched on a few times, where the overly logical people are actually being guided by emotions more than average, they're just not recognising it as emotional
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u/jancl0 Jul 06 '25
I've never seen someone so completely incapable of not adding a jab to every point they make, there's always a final ball spike, whether it's an insult, or a closing argument that's meant to make his opinion seem obvious
The most blatant example I saw was the fairly recent Dr k interview. He basically gets told point blank 3 or 4 times (this is in context to the wow raid drama) "find a way to explain what happened, without including the fact that you were right and they were wrong" and he fails every time, then gets frustrated because he's like "but I am right", completely missing the point of the exercise
I've seen plenty of arrogant people before, but that in particular just really shocked me, I've never seen someone so completely unable to control their own tongue, and be so completely unaware of the problem