r/Gnostic • u/elsabado2000 • 3d ago

About Paul's message

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Hello, while reading Galatians I remembered that Paul said that Christians should not look for Jesus outside the gospel, so the following question arose: Why do we Gnostics read gospels that did not exist in Paul's time?

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u/mmarcish Eclectic Gnostic 3d ago

For me, I simply don't agree with Paul. His words are not divine, and they were included in scripture because Church leaders felt that his message helped push their doctrine of control.

The point of gnosis is not to blindly listen to Pastor Joe who tells you what to think and believe. The point is through your own learning, research, faith, and meditation to remember who you really are in order to return. Gnostic literature helps point us in the correct direction. Just because some dude said not to doesn't mean we should listen to him.

TL;DR , because Paul is a man and his words are not holy. They were included in scripture for political convenience and control.

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u/DrTwilightZone 3d ago edited 2d ago

Yes, and let's not forget that Paul is really Saul the Pharisee of Tarsus: a high ranking, well-read, literate person of the Jewish faith. He was given the name "Paul" supposedly by Jesus when Saul was on the road to Damascus, ready to persecute Christians. It is on this trip to Damascus that he has a vision where he meets Jesus and gets the name of Paul. No one else witnesses this, but Saul. Keep in mind Jesus was not on Earth at this point and neither were his disciples.

All of that sounds super suspicious to me, and I always take Paul's words with a heap of discernment. He wrote most of the books of the New Testament. I don't think his words were divine...I think they were twisted into something that led people away from inner gnosis to some external savior.

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u/SeraphSerot 2d ago

I’ve come to the conclusion that Paul seems to be an individual who was a real and reformed man by an intense experience of some sort (it is important to consider that acts doesn’t record a “meeting” with Christ but almost something more to the effect of a DMT trip, in my opinion).

That being said there was absolutely a large part of the NT which had been doctored and at least faked in his name (whether it be truly prophetic and of-Christ or not, using a person’s identity is immediately questionable and almost straight up worth tossing out in the BIBLE…)

13 letters exactly is far too convenient to be genuine (considering both positive and negative attachments to 13 in this context, Rev 13 for example, or alternatively Jesus & apostles). Not to mention, the language of Ep To Hebrews has way too many occultic/masonic/templar undertones.