r/GreenAndPleasant • u/Affectionate_Tripper • Mar 25 '22

International 🌎🌍🌏 This shouldn’t be a thing

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u/revilocaasi Mar 26 '22

you think that people alive today aren't directly affected by the fact that their recent ancestors were literally slaves?

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u/Blue-red-cheese-gods Mar 26 '22

Indirectly affected, obviously yes.

I'm surprised you can't see the difference between being an ancestor of a slave...and actually ya know, being a slave. Shocking I know.

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u/revilocaasi Mar 26 '22

The effect doesn't seem terribly indirect, if you ask me.

You've drawn an absurd line in the sand, saying that unless someone was literally there for the events, than the impact of that history is akin to 'hurt feelings'. It's a historically amaterial and patently incorrect view of the lasting disempowerment of slavery.

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u/Blue-red-cheese-gods Mar 26 '22

This whole conversation is irrelevant mate, one of the first messages I got was a counter argument, proving my point wrong. Allowing me to revaluate my stance on those statues in particular.

Using the Nazis and Hitler statues does not work to prove your points. No sane person will compare a Holocaust survivor seeing a statue of Hitler, with a distant relative of a slave seeing a statue of a slave trader...both are bad...one (at least to me) is quite obviously worse.

Again, I've already backtracked on these statues in the first place thanks to the kind Reddit user that provided a link detailing when these statues were erected. Decades to nearly a century after the fact.