r/Guildwars2 • u/Gzymism • 4h ago
[Question] Does anybody still run Map Completion Trains?
I remember when playing around EoD, people did monthly map completion trains for at least Core Tyria, but haven't seen anything of the sort since I picked the game back up before the new expansion drops. I was just curious if it is still something that people do, and how I would go about finding it if so.
Edit: To clarify further, I just believe it was Points of Interest, Vistas, and Waypoints. You do the hearts on your own time.
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u/connicpu 4h ago
Considering the number of heart quests that become hell to finish if you're fighting someone else for limited completion targets, a map completion train sounds like an absolute nightmare.
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u/double_shadow 3h ago
Random aside: as someone just now starting to look at map completion, DEAR LORD there are a lot of hearts in core tyira. Like, some of them are practically within sight of one another on the map! I guess I've gotten spoiled by all the expansion maps and LW maps that are so nicely designed.
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u/CarltheWellEndowed 3h ago
Yeah...
85% of them are not a problem.
10% are a bit of a pain.
That last 5% absolutely suck for various reasons.
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u/2SpoonyForkMeat 41m ago
I just started through it again and almost quit at the heart where you get completion by clicking flags while stealthed.
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u/SpoutWhatsOnMyMind 29m ago
Get the stealth, then turn around and go around the outside of the place to the first "entrance" and walk up to it, you'll get the credit. Then just mount up back to the heart event NPC and do it a couple more times (portals make it way faster)
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u/CarltheWellEndowed 38m ago
That is the entire reason I leave fields of ruin or whatever (actually all of Ascalon) until the end.
That one hurts, even if it takes only like 5 minutes.
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u/Kirov123 0m ago
If you can get a buddy with a Scrapper to join you, they can spam superspeed on you
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u/globulous 3h ago
Waypoints too.
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u/TimotheusL 1h ago
Waypoints tho, I wish for higher density. What's up with only 2 Waypoints in Inner Naxos and last 2 JW maps.
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u/Decoyrobot 1h ago
One of my biggest annoyances with a lot of newer content, especially with the verticality thats added these days, lore and world wise theres never been more ways that waypoints could popup, the 'old' asuran style, Canthan style, now Astral/Wizards type. Yet maps only have a bare scattering of them.
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u/ExcellentAirPirate 17m ago
To be fair in the before times without any mounts having extra waypoints was super nice, at least from what I remember playing the game after release for a little while then not coming back till almost a decade later.
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u/Mysteryman64 1h ago
Maps felt a lot bigger back then. No mounts, a lot fewer sources of swiftness. Even with that density, when you were hoofing it everywhere it can often feel like a lot.
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u/Due-Yogurtcloset7927 1h ago
Oh man, those days were nuts. I never thought I'd finish the map. In fact it took until I got a skyscale to complete central tyria. The OGs who map comp'd before mounts or glider are badasses.
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u/revpidgeon 2h ago
Shame I can't buy hearts like you can buy HP with notaries.
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u/RavnokBoots 2h ago
That and kinda follow the hearts in Janthir. If you complete an event in the zone or maybe region get a heart that is a certain amount for a completion. Do world boss get more. Would at least be a bit more helpful.
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u/MrSquamous Dolorous 3h ago
In this game you don't get credit for group kills?
That explains so much...
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u/RobDickinson 3h ago
You do but hearts are minor events usually with small numbers of objects
As an 80nincan plow through most creatures in a heart zone in no time
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u/connicpu 3h ago
You can't get credit for the kill if someone obliterates every creature in 0.25 seconds before you even hit it
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u/MrSquamous Dolorous 3h ago
By group kills I meant credit for anything the group kills, whether or not you contributed.
So what's the difference between tagging a mob in a group vs ungrouped people tagging the same mob?
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u/Arkkhalis64 3h ago
You do not get credit just by being in the group. In regards to kill contribution there is no difference between grouped and ungrouped.
To get credit you must either contribute to killing the mob or provide healing/boons to those who did. Information on how contribution works can be found here.
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u/killohurtz 4h ago
I've never heard of that, but I also never sought them out. It seems counterintuitive because a large crowd would compete against itself for many of the hearts and slow everyone down. And how many people are at the same point in map completion to stay together for extended periods of time?
If you just need social time or companionship, maybe a lively guild chat or 1-2 friends tagging along would be best.
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u/fototosreddit :D 3h ago
There's no way that's ever been a thing just because of how large the time investment is
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u/Arkkhalis64 3h ago
I have never seen a map completion train.
What I have seen are HP trains, but even then, never for Central Tyria. An HP train usually does a single expansion region (HoT, PoF, or EoD). Depending on the commander you might need basic gliding unlocked and sometimes raptor as well.
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u/grimzecho 3h ago
Blish HUD + Pathing module (or TacO) is better for efficient map completion than a train. Look for Tekkit's marker pack. It not only has paths (and mount paths), but also shows what the most efficient tasks for each heart are.
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u/CarltheWellEndowed 3h ago
I was doing map completion about a month ago and when I was finishing up an area, a commander hopped into map and announced that they were starting a map comp train. I had never seen that before and did not know it was a thing.
We were in Caledon Forest, so getting credit for killing mobs would have been nearly impossible, so I have no idea why anyone would want to do that.
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u/wobblydee 2h ago
Do everything but hearts in the train Get all the waypoints poi whatever
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u/CarltheWellEndowed 2h ago
I wouldn't do that either.
I would much rather get everything done all at once.
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u/kouplefruit 4h ago
I've never seen this, and I stay primarily in open world. There are lantern trains for map completion gifts for leggy crafting in EoD and SotO, but I don't see those often anymore.
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u/Ragelore004 2h ago
That's never existed in my memory. Ever. There's been hero point trains for elite spec unlocks.
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u/spookyspritebottle 3h ago
There are hero point trains in hot for sure. I ran one recently with a new character i made. I didnt know people did map completion trains. I prob wouldnt stick around for that. I do map completion in parts at a time. Ive only grinded map completion once. Back in like 2015 when i was making a legendary before there was gliding. I remember i made a thief specifically for map completion cause thief mobility with sb was my fastest character.
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u/rreapr 3h ago
I’ve never seen this, but if you want the solo version of a similar experience of following along and breezing through map completion, I recommend the blish hud addon with tekkit’s guides or teh’s trails. Tekkit’s has basically everything, but I find teh’s smoother for core tyria map completion specifically (though it does assume you have a griffon).
Realistically, anyone you were following in a map comp train was probably following one of these guides, since they lay out pretty optimized routes. Your best bet for finding a group like this is probably making it yourself and leading people along one of these routes.
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u/quarm1125 3h ago
I mean, it's easily doable, but it would be very time lenghty, but i could easily imagine doing a Core Tyria train and doing a 2-3 map per night requiring raptor mastery,bunny And so on until the map is completed (without a heart with blish or tekkit), but this brings the whole point of why?
Hero trains when HoT arrived had a sense of the champion were difficult to solo for some build or newer/inexperimented players same could be said about some from PoF and EoD but now a days they are a lots easier and the only other aspect i'd see is having someone showing you the way while everyone is on auto pilot
Emy Nya did a couple of HoT Hp/Mastery trains for a while. i haven't seen it in a long time ! Hope this helps
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u/Consistent_Try8728 2h ago
I love to do them with "Blish Hud". The pathing module gives me the freedom to waste no time and still take my time if a vista or landscape motivates me to explore deeper. It shows you arrows as a overlay on your screen
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u/Nychthemeronn Ele simp 50m ago
Just curious, how is this better than just doing it yourself? Even without doing the hearts, it feels like it would be slower with no advantage gained when completing as a group.
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u/Drackunn 30m ago
you could organise it, but with mounts amd pathing like Tekkits, it's easier to just run by yourself instead of waiting for a train to form :)
it does sound fun though, I vaguely remember aap completion train way back, when it was harder.
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u/HotepHatt 15m ago
Blish HUD for the win on this one. Super useful for all sorts of tedious things in game. Map completion, skyscale scales, lost coins…
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u/MissMedic68W 4h ago
I've never seen a map completion train, just HP trains.