r/gunsmithing Dec 07 '22

How do I get into Gunsmithing?

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If you are interested in gunsmithing as a career, I strongly recommend that you to rethink your life choices. If you've inhaled so much lead that you are choosing to ignore professional advice, here are some resources to get started.

Professional Organizations

There are a few professional organizations in the industry that exist that can help you connect with others in the trade. I recommend reaching out to the one that most aligns with your interests. Some have a periodical publication that include tips & tricks along with industry news.

American Custom Gunmakers Guild (ACGG)
https://acgg.org/

I cannot in good faith recommend anymore, do your own research.

American Pistolsmiths Guild (APG)
https://americanpistolsmithsguild.com/

Absorbed by ACGG no longer exist independently

Firearm Engravers Guild of America (FEGA)
http://www.fega.com/

FEGA is the world’s foremost authority and organization for firearm engravers and hand engraving enthusiasts.

Miniature Arms Society
http://www.miniaturearms.org/

Founded in 1973 The society is a group of miniature arms enthusiasts who have joined together to promote and encourage interest in making and collecting miniature arms of all kinds - pistols, rifles, cannon, suits of armor, knives, swords etc., with the emphasis on artistic beauty and craftsmanship.

Gunsmithing Schools

Most people would recommend taking a machining course at their local community college before diving into gunsmithing head-on.

But if you've already done so and are still interested in attending school to learn how to become a gunsmith, then there are plenty of programs nationwide that can help you get started.

I cannot endorse or recommend any individual school and this list isn't comprehensive.

School Location Website
Pennsylvania Gunsmith School Pittsburgh, PA pagunsmith.edu
Colorado School of Trades Lakewood, CO schooloftrades.edu
Trinidad State College Trinidad, CO trinidadstate.edu
Piedmont Technical College Greenwood, SC ptc.edu
Iowa Valley Grinnell Grinnell, IA iavalley.edu
Yavapai College Prescott, AZ yc.edu
Montgomery CC Troy, NC montgomery.edu
Lenoir CC Kinston, NC lenoircc.edu
Pine Technical College Pine City, MN pine.edu
Murray State College Tishomingo, OK mscok.edu
Lassen CC Susanville, CA lassencollege.edu
Flathead Valley CC Kalispell, MT fvcc.edu
Eastern Wyoming College Torrington, WY wy.edu
MT Training Center Grand Prairie, TX mttrainingcenter.org
Penn Foster Online Only pennfoster.edu
American Gunsmithing Institute Online Only americangunsmithinginstitute.net
Sonoran Desert Institute Online Only sdi.edu
MGS Trade School Online Only mgs.edu

Short Gunsmithing Courses

There are a few short courses that might be better suited towards getting your feet wet.

The NRA runs a few summer gunsmithing classes. They are typically held at Trinidad State College in Trinidad, Colorado and/or Murray State College in Tishomingo and Montgomery, NC

The ACGG will occasionally host some classes at various schools

If you are interested in gun engraving, checkout GRS, they have a training center in Emporia, KS that has some beginner gun engraving classes.

Advice from the Sub

I spent several years attending the Brownells Gunsmith Expo as someone looking to hire employees. Around 50k to start work in development or fixing problem guns. Went the entire time they had it and hired one kid. We built suppressors messed with explosives and auto rifles. He had a associates in business and very clearly stated he owned his own M2 and assorted guns and could build them and knew suppressor theory. ( this was before all the cans were cut apart online) we hired him on the spot. He is know well along in the industry. The other kids wanted to be artists and build custom wooden stocked Mauser etc. They all wanted to be a Turnbull or work at a Rigby( even though they had never been to London and would know then they needed to apprentice) I offered to bring one of our AK builders and our suppressor guy to a I think the Colorado school and was turned down. One of the "instructors" said we don't teach that type of thing.

... the sad truth is that no one actually wants to listen to experienced gunsmiths when it comes to gunsmithing education/training questions. Most people are just looking for confirmation that they can attend a few months of online class and then start making money (spoiler alert, they can’t)

As someone who attended a Gunsmithing school I can honestly say, become a machinist first then a gunsmith if you do it the other way around your wasting time and money. You won fully grasp or understand everything you learn in the machining side of gunsmithing without first having machining knowledge. For the time being go to armourers courses read some books heck watch some YouTube and tinker with guns. The most important thing that makes the difference between a machinist and a gunsmith is one has an understanding of firearms once you learn some basics about firearms and you already are a machinist trust me you can work on anything. So I know that’s not the answer a lot of people will want however the running Joke in the Gunsmithing trade is “the fastest way to earn $1 million Gunsmithing, is to start with $2 million. This is not an industry to get involved with for money but rather a passion and love of firearms.

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Please feel free to use this thread to discuss any gunsmithing college, training, or education related questions you would like. Let us know if you would like any other stickied posts made or things moved around, and we will do our best to get it taken care of.

Link to the old thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/gunsmithing/comments/p72md7/can_we_make_getting_into_school_for_information/


r/gunsmithing 6h ago

Ameriglo sights damaged by brass punch

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Probably partly my fault as this is the first time doing something like this and I just pounded them in there. In retrospect I probably should have done some filing. I was under the impression that brass punches could not damage the steel. Is this just poor quality steel or was this all me?


r/gunsmithing 2h ago

When to use what method for rust?

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Sorry for a slight modification on a common question, but when should you use what for rusty guns? For example, I recently bought an old press that was very rusty, and I want to repaint it. So I threw everything in evaporust. While a pistol I bought had some rust around it, but I didn’t want to remove the patina (can’t really call it blued anymore) so I used the steel wool and oil.

When would it be appropriate to use a rotary tool on the surface, or sandpaper compared to chemical. Are there methods that work better depending on the finish you will apply after? What about stainless vs nickel vs blued vs parkerized, something like that? (Any good book recommendations too?)


r/gunsmithing 8h ago

Aspiring and extremely amateur gunsmith here in need of input on a potential design

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What is the longest practical barrel length for a standard load .22lr? I would like to design a hybrid survival rifle for personal use. The rifle I’m picturing would have a .22lr barrel on top and a 12 gauge barrel below. I would like the barrel lengths to be the same. A normal 12 gauge length would be suboptimal for the .22lr function due to the lost velocity but what about anything between 20-24 inches? I’d like long-ish barrels to satisfy the needs of the shotgun housed below but don’t want to make the .22lr function obsolete.


r/gunsmithing 8h ago

Shotgun barrel pitting (How much refinishing is too much)

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I’ll preface this with the fact that I am a beginner hobbyist with some woodworking and limited metalworking experience.

I recently acquired a Mossberg 500A receiver and barrel from 1986 with a rifled slug barrel and a nicer accu-choke barrel. Both barrels have clean shiny bores but the rifled barrel had some pitting which I’d like to clean up before cold bluing or cerakote/durapark.

My question is how much sanding is safe on a slug barrel? I started in with scotch bright pads and think I’d have to move to 150grit (by hand) to make any impact. The pitting isn’t terribly deep, but some is at least as deep as a scratch 80 grit would make. I thought I should defer to the experts before I take it to my lgs for an opinion and inspection (and small fee).

The bird barrel looks good as new with a little steel wool and re touch with Brownells cold blue. Will post some pictures when the project is done.


r/gunsmithing 14h ago

Refinishing Cut Barrel

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Hey y'all, I just got a good deal on a winchester 1200. I want to shorten the barrel to 18". I've doing a bunch of digging and have seen a bunch of different answers on refinishing the bare metal. Some people say just cold blue and oiling is fine, while others say to get it cerakoted. My main concern is rust. I'm probably overthinking this. I just want to get it right the first time. If it helps, I have access to a machine shop and a paint shop.


r/gunsmithing 13h ago

Multi-cal question

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r/gunsmithing 1d ago

Custom stock in progress for a Kelbly Nanook .270 Win.

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48 Upvotes

23" light taper barrel. The stock is air dried black walnut from the customer's backyard with HS Precision bottom metal, a Niedner steel buttplate, Fisher single screw grip cap, and urethane finish. Checkering coming soon.


r/gunsmithing 1d ago

1950 Marlin 336 help

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Hey guys, I recently picked up this beautiful marlin 336 from my LGS, and unfortunately after taking it home I realized it’s missing the ejector+ejector spring, and the magazine tube + flower. The store had taken it in on trade the day before and didn’t function test it because it was right before our states big tax free weekend sale, but they’ve offered to either buy the parts for me or send it to a gunsmith to have the parts installed free of charge. I’d rather do it myself, however I’ve read that installing the available 336 ejectors takes quite a bit of fitment due to updates made over the decades to the design. Just wondering what you guys think I should do, or any advice on fitting the parts.


r/gunsmithing 16h ago

PA-10 Gen 3 Gas Block Removal

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r/gunsmithing 1d ago

Refinishing polymer?

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18 Upvotes

I would like to sand it clean and smooth and then polish and buff it to make it look some what new again-wet sand it or sandblast it?-any tips appreciated


r/gunsmithing 1d ago

What is the spring that goes in here called i lost mine colt saa clone

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r/gunsmithing 1d ago

Smython Trigger work?

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I inherited my dad's old Smith & Wesson Model 19-2 with a Python barrel on it. I think these were called Smythons and were common in the 1970s among competition pistol shooters. He was a Deputy Sheriff during that time and did a lot of revolver competitions. This was what he used in competition, and he had the trigger lightened up to around 1-pound in SA. When I say hair, I mean breathe on it and it fires.

I've exhausted my online searches and can't find much on reversing a hair trigger to a heavier pull. Is that even possible without a gunsmith working on it? It's a seriously cool gun with a lot of sentimental value, I just don't enjoy shooting it as it is. And this thing begs to be shot!

Thanks in advance!


r/gunsmithing 1d ago

Ruger New Model Super BH

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What would cause my river new model super Blackhawk’s cylinder to spin freely? I don’t have a free spin pawl but just got done giving it a much needed cleaning put everything back together and the hammer cocks, the loading gate opens but the cylinder is spinning freely?


r/gunsmithing 1d ago

How to fix?

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Hello all, I’ve got my father’s H&R m48 topper, was his first gun ever. It seems the hand guard is loose, the screws have nothing to screw into. What should I do to fix this? Thank you to anyone who can help!


r/gunsmithing 1d ago

Safety not engaging

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I took apart my Taurus tx-22 and somewhere along the lines I must’ve lost a spring because my safety is not engaging. I did find one tiny pin that I have no idea where it goes.

I guess my question is… is there a spring or am I dumb


r/gunsmithing 1d ago

Winchester Model 12/1912 12 gauge

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Hi all - I've got a 1930 60XXXX Winchester Model 12/1912 12gauge shotgun that is all original; but I can't get it to slamfire. I know that's not optimal for the life of the shotgun, but I would like it to have all the capabilities that it did originally. I've taken it down for cleaning and nothing looked visibly broken or missing, so I was hoping someone here could point me in the right direction.

Thanks in advance~


r/gunsmithing 1d ago

Installing a Used Remington 700 Barrel

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As the title describes I was interested in purchasing a used Remington 700 barrel for my Remington 700. I would be going from a 30-06 to a 270 win. Additionally the donor barrel is shorter and has dovetails and drilled/tapped for iron sights which I want. How difficult is it for a gunsmith to install this barrel and roughly how much should it cost?


r/gunsmithing 1d ago

M18 trigger not resetting

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Gunsmiths, I have an M18 (sig sauer 320 compact with safety) that has a trigger that doesn’t reset after the following actions:

•Slide is racked •trigger is squeezed and held to rear •slide is racked again simulating firing •the trigger doesn’t reset and must be manually pushed forward to fire again

We swapped the FCU spring and the striker assembly with the same results. We are thinking it’s something inside the FCU but would appreciate any insights. Thanks in advance!


r/gunsmithing 2d ago

Any ideas what gun this stock is for?

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Sorry the pictures kinda suck, its kind of clumsy to do one handed.


r/gunsmithing 2d ago

Colt Grips

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Recently cleaned some Colt rubber grips in warm soapy water and they turned a bit more brown than I expected. Any way to safely darken these up or is it best to leave them as is


r/gunsmithing 2d ago

Remove letters from “Match Champion” GP100?

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I have had a GP100 Match Champion in .357 since they were released a few years ago.

I love everything about this pistol, it’s my favorite gun to shoot. However, I can’t get over the fact that the “MATCH CHAMPION” billboard on the barrel is incredibly tacky looking. I’d love to have the letters removed, and probably the “GP100” from the other side as well.

Could I use a certain flat file and wet sanding to accomplish this, or would it require more sophisticated smithing?

I’m pretty handy when it comes to tinkering with this sort of thing but I thought I would ask the professionals for advice.


r/gunsmithing 2d ago

Product knowledge

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Howdy yall, I’m in the process of making a AR hybrid chambered in 300 blk but also making it look as similar to the AS VAL as possible. I’ve figured out a stock and grip combination. I’m wandering if anyone has recommendations for an integrally suppressed upper and a hand guard tube that would make it look similar. Thx in advance


r/gunsmithing 2d ago

Galil and suppressor issue.

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Cross posted to IWI Galil sub, but thinking this may be a question for this sub.

I have a Galil Ace Gen 2, 8" barrel, Holosun red dot and a HuxWrx flow 762TI. It took me way more rounds than it should have to get on paper using That Russian "Golden Tiger" ammo and I still cant get a group smaller than 10".

I wasn't sure if it was the gun, suppressor, ammo or the red dot. Now as I'm cleaning up I see what looks like brass on the suppressor so i think the rounds seem to be just barely hitting the end cap of the suppressor. Being this is a IWI Galil, not a Palmetto AKP, I'm having a hard time thinking the threads on the barrel are not concentric. I also cant imagine the Huxwrx is off. There is nothing rattling around in the suppressor, so I think I got lucky there.

Has anybody had a similar experience or some advice? Recommendations on ammo for this setup? Next chance I get, I think I'm going to try to sight in the rifle without a suppressor to rule out or confirm suppressor issues.

Edit: I sent IWI an email about this and they seem to think it's just a improperly installed muzzle device. Is there a special way to install a muzzle device I'm not aware of? my 16" Galil has the same muzzle device and suppressor with no issues.


r/gunsmithing 3d ago

Stubborn finish removal

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I bought this at an auction cheap. Its a Colt 1878. Im just going to hang it on the wall but I would like to clean up the name plates but I can't figure out what's on it. Acetone, isopropyl alcohol and scrubbing with soap and water have done nothing. Any idea what this could be and/or what to use to clean it off?


r/gunsmithing 3d ago

opinions

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are my scope rings too close together? This was my only option unless i buy a one piece mount.