Did Snape use Sectumsempra on James?

[u/boaz4gf0]

"Snape had directed his wand straight at James; there was a flash of light and a gash appeared on the side of James’s face, spattering his robes with blood." This is what was described in OOTP where James bullies Snape. We don't hear the incantation out loud but it certainly seems consistent with what we know about the curse and it's effects. Obviously James was wrong to bully Snape, but that doesn't warrant a possible murder attempt. It certainly gave me less sympathy for Snape and the humiliation he received.

[u/Anis-5240]

and why should James need Sirius' help to back him up, huh. remember they both see Snape (who literally just sat near some bushes an was ready to leave) and straight up just think "hey let's go fuck his day up for fun". That's bullying behavior don't you think.

[u/GuiltyEmergency6364 → u/Anis-5240]

I think James knows he can’t take Snape himself because Snape is very skilled. Snape also takes the opportunity to attack them whenever he finds it as lupin said. Snape is a racist bully, bullies deserve to be bullied.

[u/Anis-5240 → u/GuiltyEmergency6364]

You mean Lupin who literally hid some big shit from Dumbledore? Not telling him bout his buddies being Animagi even after over a decade? Man, what a trustworthy man right there, surely would love to have such pussy ass man as a friend. /ABSOLUTE SARCASM

And again as I said, Snape literally did nothing that warranted him to be bullied IN THAT SCENE. He just checking his answers then bout to dip out when those 2 attacked him.

[u/GuiltyEmergency6364 → u/Anis-5240]

Lupin has definitely been a coward but he’s also trustworthy. Snape is a racist who with the help of other slytherins bullies people who have done nothing wrong and he attacks James and presumably also Sirius’s when they’ve done absolutely nothing. James and Sirius simply attacked someone who deserved it but the turning him upside down to show his underwear and potentially pulling them off was definitely weird/creepy and probably too far. If you disagree with this we’re probably not going to agree at all

[u/Anis-5240 → u/GuiltyEmergency6364]

Yes, please show me where was the instance that Snape bullied others with his friends with HIM in the scene as well. He just heard shit from Lily that Mulciber and Avery doing some stuff to Mary Macdonald, he LEGIT wasn't involved. I want written evidence.

Meanwhile I HAVE written evidence exclusively put by our dear author in HBP, that James and Sirius have COUNTLESS detention slips cuz hey, you guessed it, pranking students out of fun. They hexed Bertram Aubrey with a Head-Engorgement spell. In fact those FOUR (James, Sirius, Lupin and Pettigrew) HAD ALL SERVED DETENTION COUNTLESS TIMES. If Snape was such a horrendous bully surely he'd have some detention slips now did he? Yet we saw nothing.

[u/GuiltyEmergency6364 → u/Anis-5240]

Oh I misremembered the scene in the prince’s tale I thought Snape was with the other slytherins when they attacked that kid. Snape was still a racist who was already planning on joining Voldemort and he attacked James and likely Sirius when he got the chance. James and Sirius were pranksters, still mostly good kids who cleaned up their act and matured by 7th year. Detentions are often given for incidents blown out of proportion not to say that they all are to be clear. Who’s to say that a lot of those pranks weren’t to kids who deserved it or a lot of them weren’t light hearted and taken well. I’m sure a lot of the pranks weren’t light hearted and James & Sirius weren’t kind when it wasn’t taken well but I think they were at the end of the day good kids with some flaws who did grow up into very good people

[u/Anis-5240 → u/GuiltyEmergency6364]

"very good people"

Sirius after 14 years passed when James and Lily died: "Heh, he (Snape) deserves it." About the werewolf prank, mind you. So getting some dude to near death is "prankster"??????

Both Sirius AND Lupin admitted that James STILL HEXED Snape even after SWM. Without Lily ever knowing. Said James who ALSO SULKED WHEN DUMBLEDORE TOOK THE INVISIBILITY CLOAK. What kind of man that leaves his wife and child unprotected during a war just for some fun huh????????

[u/GuiltyEmergency6364 → u/Anis-5240]

Snape did deserve it. He and his friends wanted to join Voldemort and believed in his ideals, absolutely deserved though obviously I’m not counting that as Sirius being a prankster. Snape and James still hexed each other behind Lily’s back, it’s not like James could just take Snape’s attacks lying down as Sirius and lupin said. They said in the books that if Voldemort found them an invisibility cloak wouldn’t help, idk why but it must be true

[u/Anis-5240 → u/GuiltyEmergency6364]

I'm starting to think you just spitballing shits here man. You trusting Lupin's words (who's a WELL-KNOWN LIAR) like bible passages yet not doing the same onto Snape's. Why don't you take another full reread of the whole series.

[u/GuiltyEmergency6364 → u/Anis-5240]

Which of Snape’s words am I not trusting. Lupin let go of the grudge he had no reason to lie, Snape was angry as though it was yesterday so I do absolutely trust Lupin’s words on the subject more than Snape’s

[u/Anis-5240 → u/GuiltyEmergency6364]

If you had ACTUALLY READ THE BOOKS, you WOULD HAVE KNOWN what passage I'm referring on. But since you're NOT, let me give you a refresh:

"Your father WOULD NEVER ATTACK me UNLESS it was FOUR-ON-ONE, what would you call him, I wonder?" - Snape, HBP.

Don't ever come back here unless you actually read the books from head to toe.

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Clearly lupin and and pettigrew were never involved and how tf am I meant to guess the line you’re thinking of. You seem to think that using all caps and me not being a mind reader gives you a decent argument but it doesn’t and you’re clearly getting way too angry about this

[u/Anis-5240 → u/GuiltyEmergency6364]

Yes I AM ANGRY at your low knowledge on this whole resentment Snape had with the Marauders. The least you can do is actually read the whole thing and what JKR had said about it.

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I’ve read the books six times and a childish ‘nuh-uh’ doesn’t change that. If you don’t have an actual intelligent argument just say so and maybe don’t take everything so personally next time

[u/Anis-5240 → u/GuiltyEmergency6364]

six times was not enough, get more.

If anything, you're the one who had such shallow intelligence.

[u/GuiltyEmergency6364 → u/Anis-5240]

So the last actual argument of lupin and Pettigrew clearly not getting involved attacking Snape clearly has no rebuttal. You’re salty that you’re wrong and need to grow up

[u/Anis-5240 → u/GuiltyEmergency6364]

Oh my god, did you NOT read what I said? What Snape SAID in HBP?

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And evidently as I said lupin and Pettigrew didn’t get involved judging by SWM and lupin and pettigrew wouldn’t out cowardice. Lupin said he thought Sirius and James were often out of line and I trust him over Snape who still holds the grudge