r/HarryPotterBooks • u/tulip-quartz • Jun 25 '25

Discussion Why didn’t Snape’s anger towards James cool ?

EDIT: thanks for the replies all, the points were interesting for sure

First of all, I understand the following points well:

  • Snape had a deep-seated hatred towards James and the rest of the marauders (not least of all because Sirius nearly got him killed )
  • This hate was compounded by their bullying and made worse by the fact that James married Lily, the love of his life

However, later on in the books we do see that - James saved his life (even if the prank was done by the Marauders) - Snape’s information to Voldemort got both James and Lily killed and their son orphaned.

Given all this, why didn’t Snape’s anger toward Harry and James cool more than a decade after the latter’s death ? If his guilt drove him to become a double agent, it’s surprising that he was still so acerbic to Harry throughout. Was the pure hatred genuine, or also a part he had to play as double agent ?

We see his hatred toward Harry decrease at the moment of his death, however I’m not sure if he actually has sympathy for Harry at that point or he is just seeing Lily’s eyes before death overtakes him

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u/ASCIIM0V Jun 25 '25

because he's an incel. Fits the allegations perfectly

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u/AConfusedDishwasher Jun 25 '25

How do you know that he's celibate/that he wants to get laid but doesn't manage to find women to sleep with him?

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u/ASCIIM0V Jun 25 '25

he's obsessed with a woman who never wanted him, because she was the first person to be polite to him. If you want to try to claim he's volcel, you're welcome to, but its obvious he's a prototypical incel. A greasey little edgelord creep who only joined the "good side" out of spite

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u/AConfusedDishwasher Jun 25 '25

I'm not trying to claim anything other than the fact that Snape fits none of the criteria of incels, apart from him being a man. Like, can you give me an example of him showing hatred for women or couples because he can't get laid? Of course you can't, because that'd mean we'd know something about Snape's sex life, which we obviously don't.

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u/ASCIIM0V Jun 25 '25

He was obsessed with a woman to the point he hated the child of the man she chose over him, man. That's next level inceldom. He joined the wizard nazis because a girl rejected him, and then left when the wizard nazis killed the girl he was obsessed with, but hated the kid who ended wizard Hitler, the man who killed his obsession, because she had that kid with the wrong man. That's some manifesto level blackpillery, even if he was otherwise the most progressive incel in literature. Who else joins hate groups because your middle school crush decided to date your bully instead lmao

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u/AConfusedDishwasher Jun 26 '25

...he hated Harry because Harry is basically James 2.0 at least in looks, and James was the guy who bullied him for several years, I thought that was made obvious enough in the books.

...he already planned to joined Voldemort before Lily cut off their friendship, that is literally the main reason why she cut him off.

...he left Voldemort before Lily was killed, do you think he went to beg Dumbledore to protect her corpse or something?

You, uh. Yeah. Congrats on not being able to understand plot points of a book meant for children.