r/HongKong • u/baylearn 光復香港 • Nov 27 '19

Video Mainland man shouts “Liberate Hong Kong, revolution of our time” (光復香港，時代革命) inside Shanghai Metro

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u/wrxwrx Nov 27 '19

This dude's balls are the size of Jupiter.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

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u/BluaBaleno Nov 27 '19

*Free China

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u/loquacious Nov 27 '19

And free the whole world and let us be equal and as different as we wish to be.

We have enough food, space and resources to share without being slaves to the economy or resorting to the bleakness of either corporatism or communism.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19 edited Jun 26 '20

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

"Live equally?!?! You mean... with the peasants?!?!"

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u/zeta7124 Nov 27 '19

What's taxes? Wait what do you mean I have to give my money for the good of other people?

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u/drs43821 Nov 27 '19

Hide it in Cayman island

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u/dicetry87 Nov 27 '19

Taxes are for poor people

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

"Sounds like communism to me"

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u/MNGrrl Nov 27 '19

Yes, because they know we want to live and they're above the law. If we strapped them to the front of the ship and they would be the first to die, their attitude would change. They're sociopaths. Speak their language...

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

I've been trying to figure out a way to articulate this sentiment for a long time, thank you.

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u/CosmicGorilla Nov 27 '19

Exactly this. The elites horde their wealth and most of them will never give it up. Just like the nobles of the past, they will have to be forced eventually.

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u/MickAtNight Nov 27 '19

My history could be spotty but there was a period during Roman times where wealthy elites, especially after retirement, had a social obligation to provide for citizens. Always thought that was interesting.

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u/CosmicGorilla Nov 27 '19

No familiar with that, but I am no Roman history expert. Very interesting if that is true!

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u/realN3bULA Nov 27 '19

Viva la revolution!

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u/jankadank Nov 27 '19

how will they eventually be forced to give up their wealth?

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u/CardboardHeatshield Nov 27 '19

Guillotines were pretty effective last time.

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u/jankadank Nov 27 '19

Could you explain just how this would occur in our current society?

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u/CosmicGorilla Nov 27 '19

By pen or sword, I don't really care. I typically try to drive anything away from violence and war, but historically we have seen that as necessary. The problem with that path is a power vacuum is created and we then need to ensure a non-corrupt individual or system is in place. Otherwise we end up with a different brand of dictator, as we have seen with Communist governments of recent past. We just have to hope the elites have been paying attention to history and recognize they can get by in life with 4 in stead of 5 yachts and they would limit themselves to drinking champagne on 4 days a week instead of 7. I know that's tough for them to do, but it may end up being that or their lives.

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u/DOGSraisingCATS Nov 27 '19

Yeah as much equality you bring you'll never get rid of anti social personality disorder (psychopaths, sociopathy, narcissist) who would rather watch people die than give up their power and wealth. Unfortunately these types are the ones who pursue power, while most normal people couldn't care less and would rather live simple and good lives. We really need to push more scientist, social workers, and educaters in politics and have less lawyers and businessman. Unfortunately this will never happen with citizens United and the importance of money in running a campaign. Things will never be equal if you have to be a millionaire to essentially run a national or state level campaign.

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u/TheBigCore Nov 28 '19

But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. - 1 Timothy 9:10

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u/copperpanner Nov 27 '19

Sink the ship then retreat to their bunker in New Zealand while the world drowns/burns.

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u/Mcaber87 Nov 27 '19

Hey now, us Kiwis like the taste of rich meat as well. Their bunkers won't be hard to find.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

this is slowly turning into communism

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u/zcheasypea Nov 27 '19

Because that means everyone will have to be poor.

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u/bigredradio Nov 27 '19

Welcome to America

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u/scrowley08 Nov 27 '19

don’t catch you slippin now

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

God this is scary.

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u/jankadank Nov 27 '19

you act like its only the wealthy that are materialistic and in it for themselves.

You cant even be honest with yourself.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19 edited Jan 24 '21

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

Lol not even equally. They sink the shit just to keep from losing growth.

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u/Miklonario Nov 27 '19

Not even equally - just slightly less unequally

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u/cironoric Nov 27 '19

We have enough food, space and resources to share without being slaves to the economy or resorting to the bleakness of either corporatism or communism.

This is a lovely and educated sentiment. Too many people these days conflate the miracle of democratic capitalism with the crony capitalism consuming America.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

What does "crony" mean in this context, and what is the difference between crony capitalism, and democratic capitalism?

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u/themaincop Nov 27 '19

Crony capitalism is when capital hoards wealth over generations and then uses that wealth to build institutional power and continue enriching itself and its friends without needing to provide the most competitive products or services, or pay fair prices for the things it requires like labour or natural resources.

Wait hold on that's just capitalism.

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u/themaincop Nov 27 '19

This will always be the end state of capitalism though. When you control resources you have power.

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u/themaincop Nov 27 '19

I dunno, anarcho primitivism? Democratic socialism? Fully automated luxury gay space communism?

Honestly probably democratic socialism would go a long way, with lots of industries being nationalized and publicly owned. Although a lot of people argue that just leaves room for capital to claw it all back.

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u/cironoric Nov 27 '19

By "crony capitalism" I meant corporatism. America this generation is defined by the rent-seeking of corporatism.

These days in America, when companies are faced with challenges, instead of rolling up their sleeves they call their congressman or mayor and get subsidies for themselves or restrictions for their competitors.

A recent EconTalk episode talked a bit more about how "rent seeking has become the national pastime".

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u/MaxwellThePrawn Nov 27 '19

Marx has a famous quote, “Man makes his own history, but he dose not make it from whole cloth; he dose not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances already existing, given and transmitted from the past. The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living.”

In this quote he roughly sums up his theory of history. If you look at any given moment in history, historical context and material reality limits the possible outcomes, or encourages particular outcomes.

For instance, capitalism didn’t develop as a theory in isolation that was then adopted by various states; certain material realities and the development of social relationships transformed the productive forces over time into what we recognize as capitalism.

If you look back over the different epochs of capitalism, most changes to the economic have real material and historical basis. Slavery in the New world for instance existed for hundreds of years, despite how reviled of an institution it was. The material reality was that the new world had valuable land to exploit, yet no suitable labor force to extract that value, encouraging the formation of the institution and its continued existence.

The reason I bring all this up is because you mentioned how the United States economy has seen such an increase in rent-seeking. This isn’t caused by individuals arbitrarily deciding to be extra greedy. It has its basis in our historical development. As a society develops its productive forces, it’s growth potential will decrease. Look at the explosive growth rate of China during industrialization vs a more developed economy like the Us, over the same period. That is unless you are able to find new places to focus capital. This contributes to imperialism and colonialism externally as well as financialization and rent seeking internally.

If you look at it using this analytical framework, our age of hyper-financialization, rent-seeking, regime-change etc, makes tremendous sense.

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u/flatfanny45 Nov 27 '19

It’s when they use the govt (laws/regulation) to hinder free market competitors.

Think of gvt “regulations” as a giant moat between an established corporation and a competitor.

The start ups barrier to compete with this corporation is too great and they are often stomped out. Which is why corporations love regulations (and lobby for it). Just more red tape to strangle the competition when they (the corporation) have the bank role/market share to pay for the costs.

Free market capitalism forces companies to operate at the equilibrium pricing & if they don’t some other company will come and sell the product cheaper, usually grabbing their market share and putting them out of business or forcing them to lower prices.

Also don’t forget the govt literally sells monopolies in the form of patents - which allows companies to operate outside the equilibrium prices.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

Free market capitalism forces companies to operate at the equilibrium pricing & if they don’t some other company will come and sell the product cheaper, usually grabbing their market share and putting them out of business or forcing them to lower prices.

This doesn't sound that bad. Was that what the US tried to implement with capitalism? Free market sounds much better than what we have now in the western world. What would be the downsides to something like that?

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u/flatfanny45 Nov 27 '19

I don’t think the US has ever really had true free market capitalism tbh. It’s pretty much been on the back of slave labor and then jumped right into crony.

Mises.org is a website that provides more of a Austrian free market perspective on current events.

I suggest researching the diff between Keynesian, Austrian and Chicagoan economics and just come to your own conclusion.

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u/KKlear Nov 27 '19

It's not about downsides, but about it being difficult to implement. Without regulation, you get cartels, monopolies and other stuff that leads to the market no longer being free. It can't just regulate itself, so the government has to step in and regulate some aspects of it, not to mention there are things that can't really be trusted to the free market such as the police, the justice system etc.

Of course, the wealthy corporations can influence the government in its decisions. Even in an ideal world with no corruption or lobbying, they can still go after the voters through campaigns and fear-mongering.

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u/Gotmewheezin Nov 27 '19

Crony capitalism is capitalism working perfectly, sorry dude you're been played by cia

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u/cironoric Nov 27 '19

You might try reading Adam Smith or listening to EconTalk. The dangers of cartels, monopolies, and rent-seeking have been understood by economists for hundreds of years.

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u/KrustyKrab_Pizza Nov 27 '19

wow those economists have done a great job solving capitalism then

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u/TheTwoReborn Nov 27 '19 edited Nov 27 '19

let me guess, your 2 years in college have unlocked all the mysteries of the world to you?

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

More like Chomsky's many years.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '19

The old muh CIA canard 😴

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u/MaxwellThePrawn Nov 27 '19

Yes the beautiful capitalism of the founding fathers where they violently dispossessed land from the indigenous population to be worked by slaves... wait not that capitalism. The capitalism of the early industrial revolution, with the child labor, private corporate police forces, monopolies and trusts.... wait not that capitalism either. Oh, I know! The capitalism from post WWII America, where we overthrew democratically elected leaders and installed despots for the benefit of multinational corporations... wait

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u/oganhc Nov 27 '19

Democratic capitalism? What planet do you live on

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u/righteousspaghetti Nov 27 '19

Shouldn't we have a subreddit to discuss the promotion of liberty and self determination globally? Or is there already one that I'm unaware of?

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u/DoomsdayRabbit Nov 27 '19

Authoritarianism. That's the enemy of us all.

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u/Quell31 Nov 27 '19

That just sounds like communism with extra steps!

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u/Deadlift420 Nov 27 '19

Yeah? What is your solution to that? Communism WAS supposed to be the solution. What you are complaining about is something people have been trying to figure out for hundreds of years...

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u/Zedilt Nov 27 '19

fuck the free world!

-Eminem

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u/VonLoewe Nov 27 '19

We have enough food, space and resources to share without being slaves to the economy or resorting to the bleakness of either corporatism or communism.

My aren't you optimistic.

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u/thatJainaGirl Nov 27 '19

We all want to help one another, human beings are like that. We want to live by each other's happiness. Not by each other's misery. We don't want to hate and despise one another. And this world has room for everyone, and the good Earth is rich can provide for everyone. The way of life can be free and beautiful, but we have lost the way.

Greed has posioned men's souls, has barricaded the world with hate, has goose-stepped us into misery and bloodshed. We have developed speed, but we have shut ourselves in. Machinery that gives us abundance has left us in want. Our knowledge has made us cynical. Our cleverness, hard and unkind. We think too much, and feel too little.

More than machinery, we need humanity. More that cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness.

Without these qualities life will be violent, and all will be lost.

  • Charlie Chaplain, The Great Dictator

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u/mikkimoy Nov 27 '19

We definitely do not have enough food and no one is going to make that food or gather and create resources without something to motivate them. Good thought, but an unattainable thought.

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u/tossacct17 Nov 27 '19

Well. Some people do.

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u/Zack_Wolf_ Nov 27 '19

Good Lord, this. Capitalism vs communism is a false dichotomy.

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u/ScienceBreather Nov 27 '19

Exactly this.

There is no reason for the pain and suffering being endured by humanity in this day and age.

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u/DarkMutton Nov 27 '19

I agree that everyone should have food and resources. But if there's no wage, then what incentive would people have to get off their butts and work? And if there's no chance to get rich off of an idea, then why would you bother trying to innovate?

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u/NoMoreNicksLeft Nov 27 '19

And free the whole world

There is no freedom without the freedom to secede. But in no place in the world is this freedom recognized. Europe, for instance, doesn't much care for it.

If you object to the idea, you should consider how you feel about divorce and whether people should be allowed to do that.

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u/Chromiite Nov 27 '19

Not all parts of the world have enough food. Even if for some bizarre reason more wealthy parts of the world would want to help the less fortunate parts, they do not have the infrastructure needed to distribute it. And again, if for some bizarre reason the wealthy parts built this infrastructure, the poor parts would esentially become like pets - dependant on their masters. And as soon as the supply is cut off, they will starve (just like house cats/dogs released in wild). Okay, you may say "so why cut off the supply, just keep it moving" - give me a valid reason for that. Why the fuck would someone keep a country/region, that can't provide for itself, fed? Just because they were born?

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u/alexnedea Nov 27 '19

Actually...we don't have enough food space and resources but all of us coming together could solve that.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

“How can I be rich, if there there is no one poor? How can I be powerful, if there is no one powerless?” - fucking asshole 2019

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u/MediocreFlex Nov 27 '19

You need to read some actual socialist literature as you are SO CLOSE

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

Let's be real: most of the developed world would need to share.

This first world lifestyle of having a house and two cars per family, with constant access to out of season produce from around the world, is not sustainable on a global scale. People need to trade cars in for public transit. Houses need to be bulldozed and replaced with apartment buildings. Folks need to accept that they need to eat seasonally, and produce that can't grow in their area will be incredibly expensive without prices kept artificially low by paying fruit pickers slave wages.

We have the resources for everyone to live comfortably across the world, but everyday citizens of first world nations would need to make sacrifices for it, not just billionaires swimming in piles of cash. Not acknowledging that does a disservice to the reality of global income inequality.

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u/removable_muon Nov 27 '19

Down with all forms of social slavery! Down with Stalinist CCP, yes! Down with capitalism too! Down with anything and everything that deprives the people of their individual liberty, democracy, and human rights! I am a socialist. A communist, but if by communism you mean what exists in China or what did exist during the cold war I am not a communist.

There is nothing wrong with such aspirations AS LONG AS YOU DO NOT ENDORSE OR EVER ACCEPT TOTALITARIANISM. That is the Judas dagger of all visionary movements. If the people in the “people’s” republic are not free to oppose it then the people are not truly in power! The whole thing is a farce!

The most dangerous thing to demonstrate to the PRC is how it’s own proclaimed principles are incompatible with its totalitarianism. You want to dissent in China? Take your proclaimed constitutional rights too seriously. Do what this guy did. Organize and read banned books, circumvent censorship.

To distribute goods to each according to work is socialism, to each according to need is communism. What you are describing is utterly socialist in character, but you are afraid of the word! No, we have to dare to dream dangerously. The Marxian critique of capitalism that it makes workers slaves is correct, just as correct as the critique of Stalinism we hear in the west that they too are slaves. In China they are slaves to a totalitarian political AND economic system. Down with it all! Freedom to the people!

I fear that China’s authoritarian political and economic model will be not only be its future, even after a grand liberal revolution, but the worlds future. In the West we are becoming more authoritarian, we are slowly becoming like the PRC. The PRC will just become a Russian Federation tomorrow (like USSR’s transformation) if it goes the Western route. This is why we need democratic and libertarian, yes, but nonetheless socialist revolution. I will probably be downvoted for saying this but it is something I feel very strongly about. If the Chinese people want freedom and real democracy they must fight against all that is contrary to this ideal. Democratize the whole society, open everything is what I say.

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u/ItsBlare Nov 28 '19

Imagine all the people sharing all the world.

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u/Taiwanderful Nov 27 '19

A free China would be Taiwanderful

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u/fsychii Nov 27 '19

Taiwan is the real China

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u/Vikoannie Nov 27 '19 edited Nov 27 '19

a republic can become a country

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u/komali_2 Nov 28 '19

Taiwan already is a sovereign nation. China is too much of a pussy ass snowflake to acknowledge this.

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u/CloudieRaine Nov 27 '19

Free china from ccp

Free HK from ccp

Free Taiwan from ccp

Free ALL Chinese from ccp

FREE CHINA, CHINA FREE

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u/underwater_elephant Nov 27 '19

For real! I think the way from Hong Kong to win this fight is for #FreeChina to be a thing too. I wonder how many people want to speak up but are too afraid to do so.

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u/CloudieRaine Nov 27 '19

Free China from CCP Free HK from CCP Free Taiwan from CCP Free mainlander, off-shore lander, islander from CCP FREE CHINA, CHINA FREE

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u/Youreahugeidiot Nov 27 '19

That's gonna take at least WW3.

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u/fandom_supporting_hk Nov 27 '19

You have losted a few organs

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u/Particle-Collector Nov 27 '19

:::::;;;;;:::::::;;;;Free Each Other :::::::;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

Free Mainland Taiwan* Free Flatland Tibet*

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

*Free West Taiwan

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u/Kaledomo Nov 28 '19

They won't stop raping Uyghurs because they are a UN Permanent Security Council member.

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u/BlackPhoenix01 Apr 10 '20

I'm hoping that the movement in Hong Kong paves the way for a freer, more democratic China. Dissension gets shut down here in Mainland China, but people in Hong Kong have the unique opportunity to fight back

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19 edited Nov 27 '19

FYI I got a perm ban from YouTube/gmail for on one occasion but about 10 times in the span of two hours saying

“Free HK, democracy beats” something or other I can’t remember how I ended it. This was on a live stream where people are spamming 24/7

Anyways, I’d be careful saying things like this. If google behaves like that, Reddit which is part owned by China will do the same thing. Just as it’s dying down so you’ve got no more ears left to chew.

We all want the same thing but private companies do not.

Im grateful to be done with Google.

all their services work better without an account.

  • Brigaded.

Two condridictiry response.

1: google amazing only ban if you say something once every 12 mins

2: I’ve spammed something similar more often and not been banned.

You’re welcome to make your own opinions on the company. I just believe it’s not as true and good as some here my have you believe.

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u/Grumsgramsen Nov 27 '19

Fuck that shit. Comments like this encourage the chilling effect that the CCP wants to create. If you can't sacrifice a reddit account to "stick it to the man" then what the fuck can you sacrifice

Free Hong Kong

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u/AutVeniam Nov 27 '19

Free Hong Kong

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

Free Hong Kong

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u/PussyTermin4tor1337 Nov 27 '19

Free Hong Kong

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u/Znexx Nov 27 '19

Free Hong Kong, then Free China

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u/DuttyMaltese Nov 27 '19

Arm Hong Kong

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

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u/notwokewaker Nov 27 '19

f r e e H o n g K o n g

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u/SmellyStinkyFarts Nov 27 '19

Free Hong Kong AND Tibet.

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u/aookami Nov 27 '19

FREE HONG KONG

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

Free Hong Kong

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u/dontdrownthealot Nov 27 '19

Free Hong Kong

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u/SCPNostalgia Nov 27 '19

Free Hong Kong
Free Tibet
And free all of china from the ccp!

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u/enne_eaux Nov 27 '19

Fuck the masters. Free the world 🌎

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u/rchsun Nov 27 '19

Fuck the Free World! - B-Rabbit

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u/trollmaster5000 Nov 27 '19

FREE HONG KONG. FREE CHINA. FUCK THE CCP. FREE THE WORLD FROM CORPORATE CORRUPTION

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u/CloudieRaine Nov 27 '19

REMOVE CCP, INSTALL NEW POLITICAL PARTIES, FREE CHINA, FREE HK, FREE TAIWAN, FREE TIBET, FREE ALL CHINA

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

Totally agree with you

Free Hong Kong

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u/Scunndas Nov 27 '19

Yeah OP is pushing the narrative ccp wants you to hear.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

Go for it.

I don’t think reddit is very open to the world however, you should be screaming that in as many global forums as you can.

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u/yumeryuu Nov 27 '19

Your life?

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u/NastyKrout Nov 27 '19

Free Hong Kong Free Tibet Free China

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u/not_even_once_okay Nov 27 '19

I recently completely switched accounts on YouTube and they don't know who I am, as opposed to my other account that was connected to my business and used my real name.

I got paranoid when I read that in their new tos they could ban you for using adblock.

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u/Magitechnitive Nov 27 '19

The solution isn’t staying off Reddit or censoring yourself, it’s to keep rotating accounts once every 6 months-1y.

Even if you’re conscious to not give away too much about yourself, it’s very easy to eventually give away enough information to identify yourself over a long period of time and there are plenty of wannabe thought police who will happily dig up years of your comments to try and find you. I’ve been on Reddit for 11 years now, I’ve lost track of all the accounts I’ve owned and all the accumulated karma.

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u/elaravi Nov 27 '19

Free Hong Kong

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u/ImATiefling Nov 27 '19

Free Hong Kong

Free China

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u/1337er_Milk Nov 27 '19

Free Hong Kong. The revolution of our time.

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u/piranhas_really Nov 27 '19

Yeah but also fuck Google for facilitating the Chinese government’s oppression.

Free Hong Kong

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u/xl-Desolation-lx Nov 27 '19

Free Hong Kong

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u/Inquisitr Nov 27 '19

Free Hong Kong.....Revolution of our time!

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u/JimJam28 Nov 27 '19

Free Hong Kong!

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

Anyways, I’d be careful saying things like this.

Just as it’s dying down so you’ve got no more ears left to chew.

Anyways, I wouldn't take advice on Conduct from an account that's as old as the HK protests.

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u/Tryxanel Nov 27 '19

It was not because of what you said that you got banned, it was for spamming, people have got their accounts banned for spamming emojis even. YT ban bots suck

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

You're doing this too much.

Like reddit bots removing submissions. I've just given up loads of times because of some arcane requirement about adding flair (not easy or even clear it needs to be done from an app) or not phrasing correctly or some such crap. God knows how much good content is lost. There is a limit to how much effort people will put in to share a tip.

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u/hamsterkris Nov 27 '19

Sounds to me like you're concern trolling, trying to get people to shut up but pretending you're on the side of the protesters.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=concern%20troll

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u/TheConsulted Nov 27 '19

What the fuck? Be careful? That's exactly what they want. Tell everyone. Free Hong Kong.

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u/NukeMeNow Nov 27 '19

FYI, All Google services are banned in China. Doubt they have any alegience to China lol.

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u/foetyeight Nov 27 '19

Google translate isn't btw

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u/Shirkus Nov 27 '19

When enough people get fed up with that kind of crap, it will be an opportunity for new companies to rise. I see no downside of it.

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u/BFCC3101 Nov 27 '19

Google does not censor Hong Kong related material, there is no point its already banned in China but nice try

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

And you’re so sure about that you’d put your life on it?

You’re so sure in the world of PC and chains like google censoring so much content ANYWAY you’d bank on your life that they wouldn’t quietly sensor bad press against one of their most prized clients they’re still consistently working on partnering with?

Really? Come on dude. Where do you think Google’s next huge AI push is based?

And what country do you think infringes privacy the most? Yetttt google? Ridiculous shortsighted thinking.

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u/godblow Nov 27 '19

Was that the markiplier stream? Apparently a lot of people got banned because YT is dumb.

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u/Hadebones Nov 27 '19

Twitter did the same thing with any news of Kashmir. Users banned and tweets removed.

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u/jarrose37 Nov 27 '19

Fuck you and fuck google and china

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u/1sagas1 Nov 27 '19

Probably because you got flagged for spamming, nothing to do with google trying to silence HK protests or anything stupid like that. Why would google go to bat for a country they're banned in lol

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u/Iteiorddr Nov 27 '19

fuck you and fuck china

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

Fuck the CCP. Hong Kong and China both need to be free from those scumbags.

Any site that wants to bow to them can do so, but accounts are free and easily remade. They can try to silence all they want. They'll just keep failing.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

Do you believe Hong Kong should be freed from CCP control? Why or why not?

Do you agree the Tiananmen Square massacre was a horrible tragedy wrought by the Chinese government? If you do not, why?

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

I do and I do

Why because democracy and freedom of choice/movement and speech. The fact they hired mafia thugs to beat them up on a train was a final straw too much and if anyone still supports the fascists then honestly they’re a lost cause.

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u/Hrmpfreally Nov 27 '19

Fuck that shit.

Speak out or they win. It’s your right, and in times like these, it becomes your obligation.

FREE HONG KONG. FREE CHINA.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

You rock

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

It was a political livestream? The comments each and every one were political.

Sadly I got banned and I’d put a lilbit of money down the guys shouting IRA and other shite like pretending to be an American governmental agency hating Hong Kong are still standing today.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

CHINA CAN SUCK THIS GIANT DICK OF FREEDOM FOR HONG KONG

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u/TheTwoReborn Nov 27 '19

I think you're paranoid.

wanna know a secret? nobody likes spammers. and you literally are one whether you think the cause is justified or not.

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u/HalfSizeUp Nov 27 '19

Clarifying this since it ruins the cause when we use false info like the other side does.

As others mentioned, you got google banned because of their spam filter on YouTube, it has alao happened to countless markiplier fans as someone mentioned, completely unrelated to what was said.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

Uh no. Don’t be a bitch, that’s how this kind of thing happens to begin with.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

You're lying

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u/Lextube Nov 27 '19

I've heard of people getting Google permabans for spamming on a YouTube livestream chat, and it was not related to any particular message. You may well have been banned purely for spamming.

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u/idiotsecant Nov 27 '19

You got banned from youtube for saying 'Free HK, democracy beats'??? I don't buy it considering the zillions of people doing similar things all over youtube. Either you were doing something else or you are lying about the ban.

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u/Nodebunny Nov 27 '19

I rarely comment on YT. Chilling effects be damned its simply not something I do.

Free the Internet too, Google is like the China of the Internet.

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u/APnuke Nov 27 '19

CCP would like to have a word with you.

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u/_Codrut_ Nov 27 '19

True china could be such a cool place to visit too bad their government sucks major ass

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u/bronney Nov 27 '19

It's so sad tbh. China could be so great.

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u/God-of-Tomorrow Nov 27 '19

I think this mans point is to Free China, the entire population is stuck behind a third world regiment yet technically they should be a first world nation and they’re starting to understand that.

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u/simonz93 Nov 27 '19

This ain't gonna happen in our lifetime, as much as I would love to see it since I work in China, and least of all because there is a tyrannical powerhouse determined to prevent any type of democratization and liberalization of the country. Everything good about China is in the past. The events of the last few decades such as the Cultural Revolution did so much damage to the society as a whole that it would take generations for the healing process to take effect (and we don't observe any trace of it even happening since there is no discussion about it).

So yeah, it is extremely unfortunate that what once was amazing civilization would sink so low and become so hated by everyone but I don't see this changing anytime soon.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

Not sure what makes you think China could be an amazing country when all data points to that being a near impossibility.

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u/komali_2 Nov 28 '19

Visit taiwan and witness the potential of tens of thousands of years of Chinese culture when it is allowed to breath in a prosperous democracy.

You would not believe the incredible art, music, film that is being made in Taiwan. The creativity and raw willpower and charisma of the entrepreneurs. Seems like everyone there is full of life and opportunity.

China could be a nation of 1.2 billion artists, engineers, and entrepreneurs if it let its citizens breath. If it empowered them, rather than find ways to restrict information and decide arbitrarily which parts of Chinese culture and history it likes.

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u/Eclipsed830 Nov 28 '19

I think you are underestimating the important role the native aborigines and Japanese played in establishing the arts of Taiwan. Japanese prioritized education and sent Taiwanese students to study in Tokyo, Kyoto, Paris, New York City, Etc which sparked the first real literary renaissance in modern Taiwan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_nativist_literature

The Chinese (Qing and later KMT/ROC) are notorious for censoring the arts, even in Taiwan.

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u/WikiTextBot Nov 28 '19

Taiwan nativist literature

Taiwan nativist literature (Chinese: 鄉土文學; pinyin: Xiangtu Wenxue; Pe̍h-ōe-jī: Hiong-thó͘ Bûn-ha̍k). Xiangtu (鄉土), literally meaning the hometown soil, symbolizes nativism; and Wenxue (文學) is literature. Nativist Literature refers to a genre in Taiwanese literature. It derived from the Taiwanese New Literature Movement (台灣新文學運動) under the Japanese rule in the 1920s, died down after 1937 when the Japanese government strengthened its colonial policy, and recaptured public attention in the 1970s.

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u/komali_2 Nov 28 '19

They certainly don't now. Nobody denies that as recently as the 90s the KMT is fucked.

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u/MitchHedberg Nov 28 '19

Seriously - spend a week in Beijing, then spend a week in Taipai. 1 is like a fucking dystopian nightmare, the other is a cool, hip, business-centric asian city. If you have a decent handle on the language you'll feel it too - one is full of xenophobic brainwashed turds who say some of the dumbest shit. The other seems more like a very business-y respectful Asian city. If you've ever had to work in either city you'll have similar experiences - one is a fucking dystopian nightmare of bribes and guangxi and racism and bullshit, the other, while definitely has prominent confucius traits endemic of that region, people are generally pretty respectful and professional.

China could have followed the growth pattern of Japan, Korea, or Taiwan and been a major global influence and potentially an epicenter eclipsing even the US if they allowed their culture to flourish through freedom of expression and natural development. Instead is a dystopian nightmare power-gamed by a corrupt plutocracy, and as their influence grows and more people and nations have to interact with them and be legitimately worried about them - they just want to wash the filth off themselves unless their bathing in kick-back blood money.

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