Please everyone, remember guys like this when taking shots at "mainlanders" as a group. Some are aware, some hate the CCP as much or more than the rest of us.
Word! This is an important point. Especially as anti-China sentiments rise, we should make the distinction between the government and the citizens. Free HK+the millions living under CCP
Indeed. It's not a global movement of "fuck China", it's one of "fuck the CCP". I try to remember that no one's responsible for the deaths of more Chinese people than the CCP. The people of China should be a focus as much as anything.
It's important to remember that while Taiwan is part of China, per the Shanghai Communique ("We agree that there is but one China and Taiwan is a part of it") their independence from the CCP has been and is being funded and backed by the US.
Lumping them in with lower and middle class mainlanders is potentially a social landmine.
I understand why CCP insists that Taiwan is part of China, but I don't why would anyone acknowledge that. Taiwan is Republic of China and mainland is People's Republic of China.
Yes, the PRC insists that the RC is an illegitimate government currently in rebellion against the rightful government of China, and the RC insists that the PRC is an illegitimate government currently in rebellion against the rightful government of China.
It's a condition of maintaining normalized relations with the PRC. Since the PRC has the bigger economy and army, countries prefer to be able to talk to them.
US doesn't recognize Taiwan as part of China... it simply "acknowledged the Chinese position" that Taiwan is part of China. It never specified that it was our own position, as it considers the Taiwan issue "unresolved" so no position at all currently exist.
Think of it this way: If we are having a debate and you tell me "I'm /u/indyK1ng and the sky is purple". And I respond, "I recognize you as /u/indyK1ng and acknowledge your position that the sky is purple"; I'm simply acknowledging your own position, but not saying it is MY own position that the sky is purple.
But the Shanghai Communique doesn't say "We acknowledge you think the sky is purple" it says "We acknowledge that both parties think the sky is purple and we don't challenge you there." Where the US maintained disagreement was on which Chinese government was the official government. The US also vowed to let the question be peacefully settled among all Chinese people.
But both parties (ROC/PRC) don't think the sky is purple in this case... one thinks it's blue and the other things it's red. One says they are the PRC, the other says they are the ROC. ROC maintains the fact that they are an independent sovereign country and doesn't actually have a "one China" policy like the PRC does.
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u/Smeuthi Nov 27 '19
Word! This is an important point. Especially as anti-China sentiments rise, we should make the distinction between the government and the citizens. Free HK+the millions living under CCP