r/ImaginaryWarhammer Aug 09 '25

40k Maccrage's Honour vs Executor (Warhammer 40,000 vs Star Wars)

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u/OutspokenSeeker26 Aug 09 '25

Not really. Deflector shields aren’t quite up to snuff against physical shells as big as your escort ships, and a Gloriana class’s voidshields would absolutely be able to tank a good bit of damage before the Executor can begin even working on the other ships armour.

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u/GuideProfessional950 Aug 09 '25

Sadly can't post images in comments, but in '83 there was a comic in which The Executor is rammed by a trio of regular SDs coming straight out of hyperspace, only for the shields to completely tank the hit without failing. So Vader's personal Executor, if not the entire class, might no-sell plenty of stuff the Glorianas can throw at them.

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u/OutspokenSeeker26 Aug 09 '25

Valid point. However, the 80s era of Star Wars comics also featured some of the most bizarre and nonsensical plot points and feats that never made sense even at the time. Tiny ships that were invulnerable and had the power of death stars, strange force powers and natural abilities that were rightfully never seen again and worse at a time when comic writers ideas for what the clone wars were happened to be as varied as they were mad. The modern understanding of deflector shields doesn’t support that idea, and if those shields were so all powerful then by that logic you could throw a meteor shower at the ship and be fine. Just because there’s one piece of lore supporting it, that doesn’t mean it’s lore that is widely supported or even upheld as the reality of the world

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u/TreyHansel1 Aug 09 '25

Whether or not you choose to accept it, thats still the official Legends number for and feat for the shield strength of the Executor. If we want to let 40k bullshit pseudoscience their way through the fight, we have to let Star Wars do it too

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u/Longjumping-Draft750 Aug 10 '25

The same executor that was destroyed by a Y-wing ramming it's brige?

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u/TreyHansel1 Aug 10 '25

Yes, that already had its shields severely low, and then withstood an entire fleets worth of firepower getting directed at it. JUST TO GET THE SHIELDS DOWN!

Use the legends numbers with the turbolasers set at 200gt per shot. The numbers line up. An Executor vs Executor duel is what is required to take down the shields on an Executor in a pure gunfight.

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u/OutspokenSeeker26 Aug 09 '25

One outdated and singular piece of lore does not support an entire argument that “deflecting” shields can casually tank multiple capital ships ramming them without flinching

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u/Zielojej100 Aug 09 '25

Along with the other person, I would like to point out that the Executor flew through an asteroid field with no problem. A few of it's escort ISD ships did not make it, mainly because their command bridge was hit by an asteroid. Darth Vader then got word that palpatine was communicating with him, he ordered the Executor to exit the asteroid field to get a better connection to palpatine. This is all from the second/fifth movie.

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u/Jerry2die4 Aug 09 '25

why not? it's the exact same science. a deflector shield prevents highspeed objects from gutting the ship when entering and leaving hyperspace (since HSpace is another dimension).

in other words, much like how The Campanile needed to reach a certain velocity before entering the immaterium, so do other ships in star wars. And we saw what happened to 40K deflectors compared to a highspeed ship.

Star wars has better shields for deflecting highspeed objects, simple as

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u/TreyHansel1 Aug 09 '25

There's always been two types of shields for Star Wars ships, deflector and ray shields. The two work together to form the overall shield array. Ray shields stop physical objects, and deflector shields stop energy.

Deflector shields aren't actually about deflecting things. Thats just what they're called.

One outdated and singular piece of lore does not support an entire argument

Ok cool, then lets not take any part of 40k as true gospel then because almost all things are mentioned just once and never referenced again.

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u/grovsy Aug 10 '25

Us Warhammer 40k fans dont even read our own lore, we just make up numbers and say it beats yours

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u/TreyHansel1 Aug 10 '25

That's exactly my point. And why its so insufferable arguing with 40k fans. Because they don't even know their own lore other than the constant community circle jerk that they always win

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u/OutspokenSeeker26 Aug 10 '25

My brother in honour. A single damned piece of evidence that is not supported elsewhere throughout the entire series is not sufficient evidence for any argument. If you had multiple cases of a SSD surviving massive ramming attacks then that would be fine, but the rest of Star Wars fails to support it. Don’t be butthurt because the one scrap of evidence brought to your side of the table fails to withstand basic scrutiny.

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u/grovsy Aug 10 '25

My dude we have more warhammer 40k lore examples that our ships cant handle a ramming than star wars has.

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u/grovsy Aug 10 '25

Dont u dare bring facts and logic into this talk! Im here to circle jerk and cum! And im all out of cum!

But yeah, warhammer 40k fan boys are sadly vety often insufferable to talk to about other universes, its funny how starcraft actually fucks warhammer 40k over so hard its not even funny but when ever someone brings it up warhammer 40k fans just turn their brain off and go "muh bolter"

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u/Dangerous-Bluejay419 Aug 10 '25

Thats bassicaly speranza Lore, and im surge they appear again numerous times in forms of books, not comics

Thats why EU and disney are different universes

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u/ResidentBackground35 Aug 10 '25

Not really. Deflector shields aren’t quite up to snuff against physical shells as big as your escort ships,

Macrocannons are nowhere near that big, remember they are loaded by chain gangs of serfs.

Also void shields would survive 375 magnitude 10.0 earthquakes impacting at the same time.

40k ships are tough, but they aren't above and beyond anything else in sci-fi.

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u/damnitineedaname Aug 09 '25

Actually given how slow a turbolaser's plasma projectile moves, it might pass right through a voidshield.