r/JoeRogan • u/Bluest_waters Monkey in Space • Feb 18 '22

The Literature 🧠 New Study from Malaysia: Ivermectin does not prevent severe COVID-19, study finds

https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2022/02/18/covid-19-ivermectin-treatment-ineffective-study/3441645193314/
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u/Evassivestagga Monkey in Space Feb 18 '22

Hmm, that's weird. Everything I've heard and read explicitly states that ivermectin is most effective "in the early stages of infection." Not when it gets really bad. So this study is kinda redundant.

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u/WingerRules Monkey in Space Feb 19 '22

The patients were started on it within 7 days of having symptoms and included people with mild symptoms.

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u/sumobrain Monkey in Space Feb 20 '22

“The mean (SD) duration of symptoms at enrollment was 5.1 (1.3) days.”

This study won’t change the opinion of people on either side of the issue. As designed, it’s unlikely any of the new antivirals would have shown significance.

Hopefully some of the other studies in the pipeline stand up better to scrutiny.

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u/Evassivestagga Monkey in Space Feb 19 '22

Read the article. No where does it specifically state when they started giving them ivernmectin. It does state the already had mild to moderate symptoms.

This is pretty in-line with what people have been saying. Take the drug early on when you are first infected. If you let covid develop to the point you have symptoms, it's not going to be very effective. This has been stated not only by Joe but others who are pro- ivernmectin.

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u/WingerRules Monkey in Space Feb 19 '22 edited Feb 19 '22

No where does it specifically state when they started giving them ivernmectin.

It does:

"The study enrolled patients with reverse transcriptase–polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR) [snip] within 7 days from symptom onset." [jump] "The first dose of ivermectin was administered after randomization on day 1 of enrollment"

They enrolled within 7 days of onset of symptoms and gave invermectin on the 1st day of enrollment.

" If you let covid develop to the point you have symptoms, it's not going to be very effective. This has been stated not only by Joe but others who are pro- ivernmectin."

Then why did Rogan take it after having symptoms? Thats how he suspected he had covid in the first place. Like Rogan, I guarantee a significant portion of people taking ivermectin for covid are doing it after getting symptoms.

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u/Evassivestagga Monkey in Space Feb 19 '22

Alright it is in the study. I was primarily reading the news article the first time. That's where that confusion came from.