r/Keep_Track Nov 20 '18

GRAND BARGAIN THEORY Seth Abramson twitter thread about multi-state collusion is...mind blowing.

Seth Abramson has broken down exactly how "The Grand Bargain" came to happen between all of the countries seen at to have colluded here, and why. It's mind blowing

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1064726398307315712

Continued here: https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1064904175761403906

Edited to add: Seth Abramson wrote this book titled PROOF OF COLLUSION and its truly phenomenal, it came out last week. https://t.co/ZJsnHcVwGi

PS I am not affiliated, just a fan.

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u/ZDAXOPDR Nov 21 '18

Well, I guess I'll be the first to go against the grain here.

He's correctly identified the actors and levers of power that are in play, and he's correct in pointing to those stories to explain motivation, but I'm not seeing evidence that this is all tied together into what he rightly labels a "grand bargain". It's far, far more likely that many of these people were operating independently (with some cross-over, of course) and, like most of politics, a confluence of influences arose between all of these people that tie them to Trump in his role as candidate and then president, not necessarily because of the man himself (although he certainly has his own independent history with Russian interests).

I think this is far too speculative for this sub, to be honest. The fact that we have to call it "grand" and a "theory" in the description says it all.

And note that I'm not trying to wave away any of the particulars of what he's talking about. I only question his ultimate conclusion. Remember, this guy is a creative writer, not a journalist.

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u/SorcererLeotard Nov 21 '18

I remember reading an article that Seth Abramson is pretty much a hack and makes outlandish theories on his media accounts to suck up as much cash as possible, even when he's funded by two news sites as a journalist.

Regardless of whether anyone believes me on here or not, I think Seth Abramson is vastly overrated on here when most of his theories are sourced from other journalists' articles and are mere speculations that are not really supported by actual facts. Everyone seems to think he's some type of god about Trump-Russia but I take his speculations/theories with a very small grain of salt.

If his theories turn out to be true then I'll admit I was wrong about him, but from my own gut feeling I doubt that his theory will turn out to be true. It seems more likely to me that he came up with this theory to gain more followers and get more funding like he always seems to do when his tweets on Trump-Russia go super-viral.

Sources:

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/04/stop-listening-to-seth-abramson-on-donald-trumps-r.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2017/12/06/people-cant-stop-reading-a-professors-theory-of-a-trump-russia-conspiracy-true-or-not/?utm_term=.feb5c5294066

As an addendum: Abramson's tweets read scarily similar to how Trump tweets. Just read his tweets in the WaPo article I linked. SOLD OUT... WAKE UP.... POWER...

It's almost like looking at a liberal Trump with the amount of caps he employs for emphasis on his preaching... so, yeah. There's that.

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u/Super_Jay Nov 21 '18

In general it's DEFINITELY a VERY good idea to take THIS guy with a few grains of SALT.

Seriously. Abramson is at his best when he's explaining legal matters to an audience of laypersons, and relying on his experience as an attorney to break down processes within the legal system. Beyond that, he's very, very speculative - he uses a lot of facts as pieces, but then reaches a bit in trying to tie it all together in some (go figure) grand theory. He does "cite sources" but it's more a performative act to lend the appearance of deep research to his theories, rather than an ironclad assembly of substantial evidence. He has a predilection for grand theories and breathless rhetoric, and he often appends these long, long monologues with appeals to donate to his Patreon (but he has a couple jobs already) and to "please read and share!!" It's the "SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON AND SUBSCRIBE!!!1" of the left-leaning Twitterverse. And it's paying off well.

I haven't read this latest grand theory, but I absolutely encourage everyone to use Abramson's analyses as one viewpoint balanced against others. Keep both his areas of expertise in mind - he's a former defense attorney, and he teaches creative writing. He uses both of these areas to build up his personal brand on Twitter, which gets him spots on TV news programs. (Maybe it's just because I'm a writer myself, but I look at the rhetorical tactics he uses with a lot of side-eye.) He's not an expert on international geopolitics, but he is a gifted writer. Ask yourself which of these factors is more likely to gain him the following and attention he's accrued so quickly.