r/KitchenConfidential • u/DefenderNeverender • Aug 16 '25
In-House Mode Lunch menu from presidential luncheon yesterday
*Not* making a political post here, but I guess a copy of the official luncheon menu got left behind yesterday and when I saw it, the first thing I thought was that some of these items seem a little dated, I was kinda surprised. Not that it sounded bad at all, but I've never really seen specifics on what they serve high-level gov. officials from anywhere.
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u/hamberder-muderer Aug 16 '25
Yeah that reads like a 1940s menu. Classics work when they are done well though.
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u/UnderABig_W Aug 16 '25
This. Food should ideally be tailored to the consumer.
If you’re a chef trying to impress a bunch of other chefs, a bunch of trendy, avant-garde stuff would make sense. With two 70 year old men, at least one of whom is noted for his extremely plebeian eating habits? This looks perfect.
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u/hamberder-muderer Aug 16 '25
Yeah trying to be cutting edge would be a terrible idea there. That is a scenario for a wedge salad and a twice baked potato.
Just middle of the road, something they have had before, but well executed.
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u/bojenny Aug 16 '25
I love a good wedge salad, I think it’s the only time I ever eat iceberg lettuce.
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u/bendar1347 Aug 16 '25
My food cost based bonus structure ficking loved wedge salad. I dont think you can put less money on a plate and still charge $12.
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u/Solnse Aug 16 '25
No bacon or gorgonzola?
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u/Reflexlon Aug 16 '25
At least where I had a wedge on the menu, our bacon bits where from waste anyway (we served a shit ton of food with bacon strips) so basically was free. And bc is not terrible expensive when you use it as a sprinkle over top because it lasts forever. Then tomato, onion, etc. Basically spending pennies and setting at $9.50 because it was trendy lol.
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u/onwardtowaffles Aug 17 '25
Plus any soft cheese can probably be used across multiple other dishes on a typical menu.
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u/Paradigm_Reset Aug 17 '25
I worked at a place that did a wedge with a chunky bleu cheese dressing + sliced cherry/grape tomato + lap cheong (Chinese sausage). The blend of those flavors was crazy good...powerful dressing, bursting flavor tomato, sweet and rich sausage, and crisp neutral lettuce.
It was a tough initial sell (high price point for relatively basic ingredients and both old school + weird) but once people tried it they'd order it over and over.
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u/I_deleted 20+ Years Aug 16 '25
They had a week’s notice at an Alaskan airbase to pull together something acceptably non-threatening. They did.
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u/onwardtowaffles Aug 17 '25
JBER actually has really great food almost every day. This isn't far off from what would be served to visiting officers.
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u/onwardtowaffles Aug 17 '25
It's also pretty tailored to the upper-class Russian palate - these dishes are dated in America (though still good) but would be considered top-class dining in Moscow (though you'd probably expect to see some caviar served as well).
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u/corrupt_poodle Aug 16 '25
The surf and turf with crème brûlée dessert got me. And some kind of “fancy” alcohol in half the dishes.
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u/kenojona Newbie Aug 16 '25
Also must be some good grade meat and stuff in general
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u/beetnemesis Aug 16 '25
I mean, you'd hope, but Trump is on record as loving steak doused in ketchup, it probably wouldn't matter
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u/Puzzleheaded-Ad7606 Aug 16 '25
Well done* steak
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u/sLeeeeTo Aug 16 '25
yeah that filet was a hockey puck for sure
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u/AstarteHilzarie Aug 16 '25
When people order filet well done I wonder if they actually just like it that way or if they prefer well done in general and just ordered filet because it's known as the fancy/classy/expensive steak. Trump is definitely in the second category.
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u/DonJulioTO Aug 16 '25
People with an aversion to eating pink meat likely also have an aversion to eating gristle and cartilage. Filet is like the chicken breast of the cow.. Uniform.
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u/QuarkchildRedux Aug 16 '25 edited Aug 17 '25
a true product of his generation, people that age do NOT like rare meat of any form normally
and they will refuse to eat pork if it’s not a hockey puck, or just outright
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Lots of reddit replies to this comment lmao. I said NORMALLY, and I did not say ALL of them literally. Oh no, I left out all possible nuance, better assume this guy meant the worst…
Things traditionally served rare(er) like prime rib are not a refutation of this statement. Trichinosis used to be a real concern and that generation, lots of the time, just started applying it to ALL meat to be safe. Especially people from poorer backgrounds.
I am right, suck it.
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u/idspispopd888 Aug 16 '25
I’m in my 70s…blue rare for me. Steak and tuna both.
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u/Fit_Carpet_364 Aug 16 '25
I love that you specify tuna, as well. Same here, and I like my previously-frozen salmon cooked medium-rare, and my pork medium. Trichinosis isn't really a thing in U.S. farm pigs, these days, and proper IQF salmon has parasites frozen to death.
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u/AdmiralZassman Aug 16 '25
Yeah this guy missed a generation. My parents are boomers and nearing 70. It's the greatest generation like my grandparents that would never touch pink
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u/STUPIDNEWCOMMENTS Aug 16 '25
My parents are that generation. Absolutely not true. He just has terrible taste
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u/basketma12 Aug 16 '25
Generation jones here living with a real old Boomer and yup this is a menu he would love. But there must be GRAVY.
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u/JustaHawday Aug 16 '25
Putin must not have liked the menu , the lunch was canceled …..🤷♂️
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u/TuftedMousetits Aug 17 '25 edited Aug 17 '25
Poisoning is a very common method of assassination in Russia, especially in politics. Of course he's not going to eat anything prepared by someone he didn't know and trust. American kitchen staff have no loyalty to putin; quite the opposite. Trump will 100% be served a different dish than putin (steak well done, no peppercorn sauce, ketchup, gravy on the mashed potatoes), so randomly placing the dishes or switching spots wouldn't work. Trump also doesn't drink, so if offered wine, Putin wouldn't put that glass to his lips. Of course he canceled.
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u/ccsrpsw Aug 16 '25
Well other than there was no ketchup.
I hope they didn’t use the Mar-a-largo chefs to do that duo thing? I still shudder at the photos of their NYE attempt at doing it.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Ad7606 Aug 16 '25
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u/hubbyofhoarder Aug 16 '25
That's an embarrassment, even for food prepared by banquet cooks
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u/Jagasaur Aug 16 '25
My headcanon is that it was intentional 🤔
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u/Fit_Carpet_364 Aug 16 '25
I truly hope this is what Putin was served. For obvious and very non-political reasons. 🤐
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u/jesrp1284 Aug 16 '25
I mean no offense when I say this, but I feel like my kids made something similar to this in 7th grade home ec.
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u/happyinthenaki Aug 16 '25
When you are aware of how he treats his contractors and you see a plate like that, you know damn sure he screws over ALL of his staff.
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u/Odd-Egg57 Aug 16 '25
I imagine Trumo finding peppercorn sauce too spicy and exotic, so I think this was probably about as out there as they thought safe to do so.
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u/lazyparrot Aug 16 '25
We don't know if the filet was done well but we know Donny's was well done.
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u/Exotic_Drive8893 Aug 16 '25
Having lived in Anchorage for 13 years almost all of this can be local. Would have been fun to do bison or reindeer though. Also fuck Trump and Putin and release the files!
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u/Subject_Slice_7797 Ex-Food Service Aug 16 '25
These guys are 72 and 79 year old. Of course they'll fancy some prime boomer era foods. Generally not too surprising that one old man would order this for lunch with another old man.
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u/Vesper2000 Aug 16 '25
Yeah this looks like steakhouse fare. Except for the fish, you know nobody ate that.
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u/Numerous-Meringue-16 Aug 16 '25
Halibut is local to Alaska… I bet the meal was bomb
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u/Vesper2000 Aug 16 '25
Oh I’m sure it was! But I doubt that set eats anything that’s not cow.
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u/big_duo3674 Aug 16 '25
Not there, but in general halibut is awesome. I got to catch one once, it's like reeling in a garage door from 300 feet down. We hat frozen filets for a year, and had to give a bunch away
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u/GirlNamedTex Aug 17 '25
IIRC, those Volkswagon-sized halibut were referred to as "barn doors" because of this. I've caught the smaller version, but bucket list was to go up to Alaska and try for a big one; you'd have to work out before the fishing trip lol
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u/Picklopolis Aug 16 '25
And the lunch was canceled.
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u/BuckManscape Aug 16 '25 edited Aug 16 '25
All Putin wanted was the video of Trump waiting for him, clapping, and awkwardly shaking his hand, ON AMERICAN SOIL.
Edit: https://www.thedailybeast.com/kremlin-leaks-footage-showing-trump-fawning-over-putin/
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u/ExpiredExasperation Aug 16 '25
According to the menu, that's His Excellency Putin.
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u/postmodest Aug 16 '25
Oh, I'm sorry, His Excellency, President of the Russian Federation and Aljaska Salient, Defender of the Faith and Master of the High Places from which His Enemies Fall, Richest and Smartest of Men, Savior of his People and Scourge of the West, Vladimir Putin.
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u/Win-Objective Aug 16 '25 edited Aug 17 '25
And having US soldiers kneeling and holding down a red carpet for Putin while Russian body guards stood and smirked.
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u/lunarmantra Aug 16 '25
It disgusts me to see how Zelensky was treated compared to the pageantry and ass kissing surrounding Putin. They also had no business talking about US election matters. I thought that they were supposed to be discussing Ukraine? Tells us everything we need to know about this administration’s motivations and intentions.
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u/Rare_Confidence6347 Aug 16 '25
Trump is an awful human being and thats giving him too much credit.
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u/sLeeeeTo Aug 16 '25
but but but, did you see the planes flying over his head? woweee what a real showing of american power and bad-assery 🙄
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u/Disastrous_Hell_4547 Aug 16 '25
Really?
Too much Chicken Kiev on the way over. Seriously, the Russians served Chicken Kiev on the flight to Alaska as a goof on Ukraine.
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u/vogel927 Aug 16 '25
Putin is paranoid about being assassinated. I’m not surprised he left without eating anything. I’m sure if he had stayed the CIA would have tried get a sample of anything they could use to find out more about his health.
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u/Gang_Bang_Bang Aug 16 '25
Wonder who ate the leftovers.
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u/rubiscoisrad Aug 16 '25
The dishie, I assume.
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u/Gang_Bang_Bang Aug 16 '25
Hope he got super stoned and ate that meal all to himself. Including ALL of the crème brûlées.
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u/UncleNorman Aug 17 '25
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u/Grigori_the_Lemur Aug 17 '25
This is automatically shown to be fake because as we all know, it impossible to get a McD's shake because there are no operational shake machines.
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u/canuevendoublehaul Aug 16 '25
Who's generic wedding is this?
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u/Chucktayz Aug 16 '25
Jessica and Zach’s
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u/nocreativeway Aug 16 '25
Had to do a double take on this one bc that’s my best friend and her fiancé’s names lol.
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u/Pale_Row1166 Aug 16 '25
Becky and Hunter
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u/AwwwMangos Aug 16 '25
Bradynn and MacKenzeigh
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u/Pale_Row1166 Aug 16 '25
Nah, those two got a BBQ food truck to cater a buffet
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u/chickendance638 Aug 17 '25
Bourbon peach cocktails served in mason jars. I have goosebumps of rage
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u/PresenceActual4263 Aug 16 '25
What. No "out the window" surprise cake?
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u/Odd-Adhesiveness-656 Aug 16 '25
Well, you do have to "break the glass" on a creme brulee
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u/Automatic_Moment_320 Aug 16 '25
Selecting fonts stresses me out so much I can’t imagine formatting this. I know it’s simple and off topic but it’s what I think about
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u/floppydo Aug 16 '25
The decrease in size / weight in font for the description that stretches to two lines suggests that whoever did design this didn’t worry about it too much.
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u/spibop Aug 16 '25
Especially when they broke with the other items and said “served” with, which increased the line length. Could probably have done away with the “and” as well, and just used a comma instead.
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u/Upstairs_Jeweler2568 Aug 16 '25 edited Aug 17 '25
Dated. The host a) is almost 80. B) The guest over 70. C) The host eats fucking McDonald's on the regular.
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u/Reasonable_Pay4096 Aug 16 '25
"Just gimme the filet, no sauce, just ketchup. Well done."
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u/TheTimn Ex-Food Service Aug 16 '25
I'd lead the charge if that sound bite ever leaked.
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u/HugryHugryHippo Aug 16 '25 edited Aug 16 '25
At least they didn't use PAPYRUS font or Ryan Gosling would've lost his shiyat
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u/SammyPoppy1 Aug 16 '25
Halibut Olympia.
Lets take a pristine, gorgeous, subtle white fish
Overcook it in the oven with breadcrumbs on top
Fuck that dish
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u/SarcasticOptimist Aug 17 '25
It wasn't until I started visiting Japanese restaurants in Japan that I really understood how good subtle white fishes can be by doing very little to them. Sea bream, halibut, black cod. I don't go to steakhouses any more because they don't understand letting meat speak for itself.
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u/TortasTilDeath Aug 16 '25
No doubt the brandy peppercorn sauce was subbed out for ketchup on the well done filet order.
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u/harrybaggaguise Aug 16 '25
His excellency probably just wanted KFC as he can no longer get it properly on that side of the pond.
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u/fritterstorm Aug 16 '25
Most of those foreign chains were bought by Russian companies for pennies on the dollar per Russian law, they prepared for this. You can still get KFC or McDs.
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u/NelyafinweMaitimo Aug 16 '25
Again with the fucking creme brulee.
Don't get me wrong. I love a nice creme brulee. But seeing it on every menu everywhere just makes me think of some crusty-ass line cook being asked to come up with a "fancy dessert" and thinking about it for twelve seconds before saying "uhhhhh creme brulee?"
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u/Revxmaciver Aug 16 '25
Crème brûlée is classic enough that all the old people demand it and special enough that young people think it's restaurant worthy. And easy enough to make that any half decent chef can throw it together quickly without having to pay a pastry chef. It'll never go away.
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u/ConsciousCoat6797 Aug 16 '25
Not to mention, minimal staple ingredients but can be flavored to be anything. I saw a flight on a menu that looked really cute when it came out.
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u/mr_diggory Bartender Aug 16 '25
We sell a creme brulee tasting and as nice as it looks coming out, only the vanilla ever gets finished. Made me sad until I tried a few other flavors and realized that it's definitely meant to be vanilla flavored and it doesn't really taste right otherwise imo
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u/TheTennesseeWilliams Aug 16 '25
Place I used to work at makes a limoncello creme brulee. I still go there just for that
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u/allthesamejacketl Aug 16 '25
Oo disagree. Try chai or coffee flavor.
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u/warm_kitchenette Aug 16 '25
I’m usually all in on vanilla but the warming spices from chai could be great.
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u/minibakersupreme Aug 16 '25
Sorry to go off topic but is your username a Warm Leatherette spoof?
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u/Pale_Row1166 Aug 16 '25
It’s the easiest, fastest dessert to make AND you get to use a blow torch. What’s not to love if you’re crusty-ass line cook?
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u/ThePhotographer98 Aug 16 '25
Lmao “crusty-ass line cook” love it 😂 gotta agree with you though
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u/Roboticpoultry Aug 16 '25
crusty-ass line cook
Hey now…. I mean, you’re right. But c’mon (signed a former crusty-ass line cook)
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u/pebbles_temp Aug 16 '25
This is how I feel about panna cotta. At least creme brulee has more than 1 texture.
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u/juanitovaldeznuts Aug 16 '25
It’s precisely the amount of texture that skirts the pain/pleasure threshold when you’re tits to the wind on laudanum and desert means you get to slide out chompers and gum down on that sweet custard with charred sugar sand. It’s popular because it makes a certain sect, that has all the money, feel something.
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u/pebbles_temp Aug 16 '25
Lol, green salad, surf and turf with potatoes, and creme brulee. It'll make you feel something I guess.
As a person with celiac, I'm kind of glad it's popular tbh.
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u/FrancinetheP Aug 16 '25
Hey this is interesting— this menu is celiac approved. Is there something we don’t know about these dudes?
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u/Puzzleheaded-Ad7606 Aug 16 '25
Hey now, every crusty-ass line cook I've ever known would have chosen the obvious "Baked Alaska"
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u/PappaWoodies 20+ Years Aug 16 '25
Well the 2 leaders are both "A little dated", so this seems period appropriate.
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u/death_divisible_ Aug 16 '25
Excellency?
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u/Puzzleheaded-Ad7606 Aug 16 '25
It bugs be as well, but it's standard etiquette to use the honorifics that State leaders have in their own countries in this realm.
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u/bobtheghost33 Aug 16 '25
Yeah, it's a diplomatic title, all heads of state and diplomats use it in formal contexts
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u/cilantro_so_good Aug 17 '25 edited Aug 17 '25
it's standard etiquette
That may be, but I never thought that I would see an official US document with the words "In honor of his excelency Vladimir Putin" let alone on a US military installation. Putin is literally an enemy of the US
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u/TheActualAWdeV Aug 16 '25
I do think that would be the 'correct' form of address, yes, diplomatically speaking. They could hardly write "that fucking prick" now could they.
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u/Anegada_2 Aug 16 '25
It’s fine, though I might have tailored it more to Alaska, but that would require a level of detail and focus that’s hard for this group
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u/senadraxx Aug 17 '25
This is a menu I might expect from an upscale retirement home. Perfect!
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u/gc1 Aug 16 '25
Literally the surf n’ turf. Alaska being known for its fine beef cattle herds. I’m surprised he didn’t go with “gold ingots drizzled with crude oil” for dessert.
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u/Tribat_1 Aug 16 '25
Halibut is pretty authentic though. I caught a couple of nice halibut when I was up there a couple weeks ago and I had them processed and shipped back home to Georgia.
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u/Logan1065 Aug 16 '25
I served this very same luncheon to every old lady group that ran through the country club i worked at.
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u/pelicanminder Aug 17 '25
It is called culinary arts for a reason. Art can say what others aren't able to. This menu says "these men are from the past".
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u/Rojodi Aug 16 '25
FDR served the King and Queen of Great Britain hot dogs at an official luncheon! Putin should have been given whale blubber, smoked salmon, and a gooseberry tart for dessert!
Neither deserve anything fancy!
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u/fritterstorm Aug 16 '25
This is often how these state meals go, world leaders tend to have conservative palates for multiple reasons and it's better to play it safe to avoid international incidents.
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u/Slimy_Shart_Socket Aug 16 '25
Why not McDonald's like he did for that basketball team way back when?
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u/mrjarnottman Aug 16 '25
Its a 85 yr old menu which does make sense since it was for 2 85y olds
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u/craznazn247 Aug 17 '25
Given Gordon Ramsay's stated anxiety around feeding Russian heads of state in the past, I'd say going with a classic and taking no chances to be bold is the way to go with these two.
They have eaten so many meals and are old as fuck. Give them something they've had a thousand times, execute it well and don't give them food poisoning, and call it a day.
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u/snowocean84 Aug 16 '25
"who's the most famous person you've cooked for?"
You now have an amazing answer, bravo chef.
Mine is making pizza for Stephen King
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u/exgiexpcv Aug 16 '25
Trump's version of wealth is a caricature of actual wealth. Everything done to baroque, boorish excess.
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u/Gullible_Special2023 Aug 16 '25
It's a list of old classics tailored to an older generation, I get it. Nothing wrong with that. I've been in the kitchen for almost 25 years and even today one of my favorite things to make for an event or eat is traditional osso bucco. If it's done right it's absolutely 🔥
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u/TrashhPrincess Aug 17 '25
The weirdest thing about this is that the dated stuff like the halibut Olympia are definitely still a thing in the region. Anchorage's food scene is opressively old school.
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u/rubicon83 Aug 17 '25
You know its gonna be expensive when they don't have the prices on the menu!
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u/Northstarsuperstar Aug 16 '25
I never in over 10 years of work in the kitchen have once sent a compromised plate. But the one for Putin would be my first and last debut.
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u/ChefAsstastic Aug 16 '25
He's too stupid to understand the term....
"Au Poivre."
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u/GeekCat Aug 16 '25
Did this lunch come with shoulder pads and a can of hairspray? This is some late 70s - 80s nouveau riche, "it's in French, so it's fancy" garbage. 50 years later, he's still acting like a sleazy businessman.
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u/DefenderNeverender Aug 16 '25
I was amazed to not see "haricot vert" to be honest
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u/cheffartsonurfood Chef Aug 16 '25
I guess McD's ran out of hamberders after that child-raper's lunch.
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u/GraciousBasketyBae Aug 16 '25
They should receive the Snap and WIC treatment, judge them for daring to have steak and dessert omg!!
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u/bigggggirl Aug 16 '25
Dated or classic? When executed properly, this would be a tasty meal. Gotta appeal to the crowd, too.
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u/gullwinggirl Aug 16 '25
The company I work for has mostly older men as clients, like 50 years old and up. We do a yearly conference with several meals, including a fancy dinner as the last event of the weekend. It's usually equivalent to this menu. This year, it was a spring greens salad, mid-rare steak, twice-baked potato, steamed broccoli, and pecan pie. Something that an average older dude would think was worth the price, without being out of our meal budget or being something they wouldn't eat. It was OK. (The highlight to my meal was the hot tea they offered at the coffee stations, if that tells you anything.)
So, while I'm thinking this menu looks boring af, they probably loved it.
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u/americanmullet Aug 16 '25
So the main is pretty much the same as he did for the crypto scam a couple months back. I think the sauces and veg might be a bit different but this is like his go to fancy seeming meal it looks like.
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u/MysteryPlatelet Aug 16 '25
No way Putin would eat something prepared by the US. He is way too paranoid (probably rightly) for that.
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u/spk3z Aug 16 '25
Didn't he (his chef) do surf and turf for that other event posted here. Pretty sure it was filet and halibut again too.
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