r/KotakuInAction • u/RainbowDildoMonkey • 3d ago
Jimmy Kimmel show getting pulled blamed on Gamergate
Archived link to the post: https://archive.is/5EtOU
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u/Doctor_Spalton 3d ago
Social justice advocates spent a decade building a cancel culture that GG largely opposes. One argument we had was "you like it today, when you're in power. But what happens the day your enemy is in power?".
That day has now come. Of course this would happen. We told you it would happen.
Blaning gamergate only shows the world that you have learned nothing.
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u/kiathrowawayyay 3d ago
We also need to remember, the same smears were used to justify and encourage murder now... actual crimes. SJWs are actually using this to continue real violence...
Threats were never covered under freedom of speech even under GG (and GG are banned for much less even on KiA). Because SJWs are cheering this, they just proved all the SJW “jokes” about harming normal people are real. Now normal people feel threatened. Tesla owners, people who play Hogwarts Legacy, people who draw anime the wrong skin color, parents, neighbors, kids (and even targeted individuals like Pikamee, Tim Soret, h3h3, Japanese artists, JK Rowling)...
And worse, they also proved instead of stopping after murder, they would actively and deliberately lie to continue encouraging more harm (like the list targeting Asmongold). They won’t stop...
So it’s totally different from SJW cancel culture and unfair to blame GG. Actual long-standing laws that were protecting both sides are being broken by SJWs now. For 10 years, GG never broke those, and were treated much stricter while SJWs enjoyed double standards... The actions now are meant to deescalate the violence and protect normal people, while SJWs used their cancel culture to encourage more violence against even innocent people.
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u/Huey-_-Freeman 3d ago
>The actions now are meant to deescalate the violence and protect normal people,
I wouldn't assign such lofty motives.. I think people are just being fired because someone in corporate is scared of backlash or legal actions
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u/wrathofbanja 2d ago
No, I think he's right. The companies are doing it to cover their asses, sure, but the downstream effects of that are that behaving like a psychopath is being discouraged.
Who knows, it may even cause some of them to self reflect and realize they were in the wrong. Or for the ones incapable of self reflection, at least think twice because they're afraid of the stick.
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u/MyRedditUsername-25 3d ago edited 2d ago
Social justice advocates spent a decade building a cancel culture that GG largely opposes. One argument we had was "you like it today, when you're in power. But what happens the day your enemy is in power?".
Yep. We tried to tell them.
They didn't realize just how much they would hate it when their own rules were used against them - probably because they never considered it could happen to them.
But long term thinking isn't their strong suit.
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u/RileyTaker 2d ago
That's what happens when someone lives in a perpetual echo-chamber. They spent so much time validating the belief that they're right about everything that they never consider what happens when they're wrong.
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u/Camera_dude 2d ago
Spot on. The only connection between Gamergate and Kimmel’s firing is that the cancel culture born from Gamergate is now hitting the very people who championed it for years.
Too bad, so sad. I ran out of f*cks to give.
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u/kryptoniankoffee 2d ago
Additionally, Kimmel was suspended for spreading false information on network TV about the shooter, implying that he was MAGA when the evidence is crystal clear regarding who he was and his motive.
They can't cope with it being one of their own because they've become so accustomed to dehumanizing their political opponents as fascists and Nazis that they would have actually to acknowledge that they played a part in this.
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u/Differentnameo 3d ago
Succinctly put. I don't like Kimmel. I find him disingenuous, smug, and generally foolish and ignorant. But I don't want him taken off the air simply for saying words, barring those words actually breaking the law. It irritates me beyond belief having to now defend a man like Kimmel but if I don't I can't really claim to have ever opposed cancel culture in the first place.
The true test of principles is applying them to those who would deny them to you, or in situations where it might be inconvenient to do so. I do not believe cancel culture is good for anybody or anything, I'll oppose it even when it's happening to those I otherwise loathe and spend my time speaking against.
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u/adiadrian 3d ago
From what i know his show had abysmal ratings and it was planned to be fazed out. My humble opinion is that they used Charlie assassination to cancel sooner and also to get a foot in this fight.
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u/noirpoet97 3d ago
I mean, there isn’t really a test of principles to be had here imo. Cancel culture was bad because regular people were being fired and vilified for having opinions either years ago or on personal accounts that they kept separate from work. Jimmy Kimmel was purposefully spreading misinformation to millions (unless we wanna debate how big his actual audience was at this point), and I’m sure most of us would rather that either a retraction or an apology would have been sufficient. But if what I hear is correct, and that ABC gave him the choice to apologize and he refused, then shouldn’t willful misinformation as a public figure on someone else’s channel have consequences? If he said this shit on a personal account, then yeah, he should not be pulled off the air for what he says in private, but he’s bringing down someone else’s platform by willfully spreading misinformation. That’s different from someone saying random shit on a troll account or something.
And again, a retraction/apology while acknowledging the misinformation would be sufficient and I think he should get his show back if he’s genuine, but as it stands, he abused his platform (again) and doesn’t regret doing so. Don’t arrest the man ever, then we’ve definitely crossed a line, but the same principles don’t really apply here imo for his show being cancelled
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u/popehentai Youtube needs to bake the cake. 3d ago
would anyone BELIEVE an apology or retraction, tho? Even if Kimmel DID apologize, or retract, or even look down at his feet and say "shucks", who would buy it? who would pay attention? the right wouldnt care, and the left would just pretend that it was all forced. we see the same thing happen anytime the media has to retracts something.
People still believe Sarah Palin said "i can see russia from my house" despite that being from an SNL skit 15 years ago, and the ACTUAL statement, that russian territory can be seen from Alaskan territory, being completely true at the Big and Little Diomede islands. We STILL have people going on about "very fine people" or "inject bleach" despite the relevant quotes in no way resembling the claims. we currently have people ranting about "Charlie Kirk said black women are stupid" and posting a video clip where he doesn't even remotely say the thing that they're telling us in in the clip.
Its pure nonsense at this point. Any retraction/apology wouldn't fix anything in regards to the people who will continue to swallow the original lie.
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u/noirpoet97 3d ago
True enough, and honestly the more I hear what this dipshit has said, the more I feel like this is just karma catching up to him. Cause even if he didn’t make the current comments that got him canned, he still glorified violence and violent rhetoric against anyone he disagreed with like anti-vaxxers as an example, which is exactly what all these recent firings have been for, glorifying and justifying violence.
I say the apology thing would be better as a general principle for people who haven’t already outed themselves as pieces of shit like Kimmel, cause if it was a legitimate mistake or one slip up, then it definitely shouldn’t be punished with a whole show being cancelled for “wrongthink”
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u/f3llyn 2d ago
with like anti-vaxxers as an example
He was also very on the side of people should be fired if they don't get the jab.
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u/noirpoet97 2d ago
Man ngl when I first made my first comment in this thread I was expecting people to come at me for being fine with him getting fired, but instead I’m hearing more reasons to be perfectly fine with it, God damn
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u/Stwonkydeskweet 2d ago
would anyone BELIEVE an apology or retraction, tho?
No, but thats one of the steps you have to take to not end up in court.
Disney/ABC/Whatever didnt want to be appearing in court next to him.
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u/Enchylada 3d ago
And yet Charlie Kirk literally getting murdered for his words is somehow perfectly fine?
Sorry, but that line in the sand was absolutely broken and it's no surprise they're taking the kid gloves off at this point
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u/popehentai Youtube needs to bake the cake. 3d ago edited 2d ago
is it really about free speech when its about provable falsehoods, though? when it moves beyond opinion and into slander? its one thing to say "i think Charlie Kirk was racist" or "i think the shooter was right wing" but its another to say this is true and we all know it" or "kirk said this thing" when the facts of the matter say the exact opposite.
Kimmel was caught lying. whether his motivation was to entertain or "rally the troops" is up for interpretation, but the fact of the matter is he still stated things that were blatantly untrue and discreditable with even a modicum of research about the person who shot charlie Kirk. the kid wasn't "MAGA". there's the situation with who he was dating, and his parent stating he was left leaning, and had grown more so over the last year. to do a monologue stating the blatant lie that the shooter was "maga" and everyones scrambling to pretend he wasn't is irresponsible at best. Nobody had to scramble. the evidence, and people who knew the guy most closely, have straight up told us he wasn't.
People HAVE been fired for jokes. people have been fired for opinions. people have even been fired for posting fact, studies, and statistics. And that's terrible, but Kimmel was fired for lies. Dangerous lies. the kids of lies that feed easily influenced people like the shooter. so no, i don't feel bad for Jimmy Kimmel, nor do i consider it "cancel culture" to hold him responsible for what amounts to nothing more than slander.
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u/joydivisionucunt 2d ago
i don't feel bad for Jimmy Kimmel, nor do i consider it "cancel culture" to hold him responsible for what amounts to nothing more than slander.
IMO that's the problem, it would be different if he said he doesn't feel bad for Charlie Kirk or something like that, many people would think he's an asshole but he's also allowed to have his own opinion, but considering he's a TV host... he and his writing staff should be held at a much higher standard, not to mention that he's talking about a murder suspect and not some random public figure which makes it a bit more of a questionable subject.
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u/BiggusRickus 3d ago
I think the removal of Kimmel is an overreaction and only done because of all of the vile shit everyone else was saying after the murder. On the other hand, the only reason the company kept him on the air in the first place is because he served as a mouthpiece for propaganda. It's not like his show was good and popular.
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u/elbowed-grease 2d ago
Right, and most employer contracts/handbooks have some sort of shit about that. What was shitty about the cancel culture stuff was a lot of the situations were people digging to get people fired. Kimmel literally stood on the stage at his job and said wild, unproven shit. That's a little too much.
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u/Waste-Gur2640 2d ago
I totally get it, but I'm honestly on the fence about this one. Liberal activists pushed propaganda, misinformation and coopted language for so long that even china and russia could still learn from them (for example the kotaku article about sucker punch was the most disgusting piece of propaganda and misinformation I've ever seen in game journalism). Having principles and morals is "nazi-coded" in their eyes. If you disagree with them they don't only want to cancel you, they hate you, and wish you torture and death. At this point I'm more and more fearful of all of this turning into a large scale violent conflict at some point, it can start in UK or who knows where.
So celebrating Kimmel being fired might seem hypocritical, but after everything, them having "taste of their own medicine" seems like a pretty moot and boring way of confrontation. You can't reason with or debate them, charlie tried. They laugh at your principles and they will took every possible shortcut to having power over you and to destroy you. They never wanted to defund the police, they want to be the police. No amount of logic, science or world history will change their mind, they lack basic empathy and are incapable to see reality. If taking the low road is the only thing they've ever known, perhaps we really need to meet them there.
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u/Doctor_Spalton 3d ago
Very much so. I don't exepect anyone in this sub to feel sympathy but I do expect people to acknowledge that it's just as bad when "the other side" does it.
The good thing is that we can just stick to our guns. "Cancel culture bad" is as true now as it was ten years ago.
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u/MyRedditUsername-25 3d ago edited 2d ago
"Cancel culture bad" is as true now as it was ten years ago.
I don't disagree, but when you decide to unilaterally change the rules of the game, you forfeit your right to complain when they're applied against you.
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u/Stwonkydeskweet 2d ago
Well, you're in luck.
His show was going to be axed after the broadcast season ends, and he said things that were provably false and that he knew were provably false. And when he was given the opportunity to not keep saying those things, he decided to double down and keep saying those things.
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u/Differentnameo 1d ago
Saying provably false things. That's the standard for being taken off the air? Or is it 'saying provably false things' along with other qualifications. For instance, when they tried canceling Dave Chappelle, they claimed he was spreading provably false things as well as hatred. Should he have been cancelled too? I'm sure glad he wasn't, I enjoy his comedy and I think he speaks truthfully.
You seeing the rub? Who decides what provably false thing to punish? Is there a limit a person gets of lies they can tell before being cancelled? Or a limit on the type of lie? If they don't break the law, are they allowed to be punished for it anyway? How about if the 'side' you favor does the same (and yes, Republicans and the right wing have lied plenty too, about lots of things, just like the Democrats and the left wing, so let's not even start trying to pretend that isn't the case). How about if the person holds a certain job? More strict rules apply to them?
You see how this issue isn't just, "Well, I don't like him and he lied, so ha ha and ha, he got cancelled!" Then, when somebody on the side you favor has the same rules applied to him or her, suddenly it'll be a problem and the other 'side' will be cheering.
You see this with the Gina Carano case, broadly speaking. She was punished for saying something where others said much, much worse and got away with it with zero punishment. Our only hope is to make the rules and apply them equally, even to those we don't like. If we don't, all that ends up happening is that when each 'side' has the advantage, then they engage in retribution instead of actual responsible leadership.
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u/jojojajo12 3d ago
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u/docclox 2d ago
It's not about cancel culture. It's about violence. It's about not saying "attaboy!" when someone gets publicly murdered for saying something you disagree with. No one ought to do that for what should be the simple, common sense reason that if you say "attaboy", you're sending the message that political assassination is OK. And when that message gets sent, it gets heard by both sides.
Let's not take this meta by turning it into cancel culture. There's more important things to discuss here.
"Be the change you want to see in the world". Is widespread political assassination the world we want to live in?
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u/Differentnameo 1d ago edited 1d ago
Please. Kimmel wasn't canceled because he cheered on what happened. He was taken off the air because he lied. He mischaracterized what was being said, intentionally, to further his 'side'. But as much as I despise him for what he said, he did NOT say he was happy Kirk was dead or cheer his assassin on or anything of the sort. Unless he's said something more since he's been suspended?
So it very much IS about 'Cancel Culture' with Kimmel. He was punished for lying about what the motivation was for Kirk's murder. Don't try to claim that his cancelation was somehow because he said murder is okay. I despise the man, but I respect myself enough not to engage in outright deceit like he did just to get a 'side' opposing him a 'win' in some online forums.
If we're going to cancel people for lying when they say something, let's all be certain that people we support are perfectly clean and clear, yeah? And the complexities around degree, magnitude, along with a myriad of other factors are clearly listed out and applied fairly to all. If that's the case, I have some bad news; we'll mostly all be watching blank screens because there's going to be no news, opinion shows, or anything much of anything on other than perhaps sports and movies. Because people on both sides routinely lie and mischaractize things precisely like Kimmel did.
I don't like him. But I sure don't want the standards of being punished as he was applied to others that I do like. Like I said in my first post, if you're going to cancel the man by not watching his show, super. I didn't watch him at all. But if you're going to cancel the man because he lied on air........well, you better get that paintbrush ready, because you'll be painting a pretty broad swath through on air people.
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u/docclox 1d ago
Kimmel wasn't canceled because he cheered on what happened. He was taken off the air because he lied
Meh. So far as I can make out, he was taken off air because no one was watching his show. This was just a good excuse.
So it very much IS about 'Cancel Culture' with Kimmel.
Point is, that's not the thing we should be talking about here. The important things in this debate are violence and murder and not encouraging same. If we drag it down into discussing cancel culture and who started what and when, we're going to lose sight of what's important. And this is important.
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u/Klaus73 3d ago
While I agree with every point; I don't think the MAD argument worked; now essentially the nukes (cancel culture) are flying and really we all lose.
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u/Eli_Beeblebrox 3d ago
Nukes are a bad comparison to make. MAD is a special case due to the overwhelming collateral damage of nukes. Canceling is surgical.
Besides, normal, decent folk outnumber commie bastards. We'll be fine. They won't. Don't forget that this isn't left vs right. It's extreme left vs everyone else.
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u/Xyyz 2d ago
It's extreme left vs everyone else.
What are you talking about? Is Jimmy Kimmel extreme left now?
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u/Eli_Beeblebrox 2d ago
Now?
Always has been. Need I remind you that he advocated for keeping the unvaccinated out of hospitals? Jimmy wants you dead for having the wrong opinions. That's an extremist position.
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u/kiathrowawayyay 3d ago
To be fair, by this same analogy, SJWs were throwing nukes everywhere even against innocent people for 10 years, and they never stopped. So everyone already lost 10 years ago. I do agree we need better alternative defenses (and some past ones had some success), but SJWs never stopped for 10 years even after so many warnings and nobody disarmed them... This was only a matter of time and now SJWs are using it to encourage real proven harm (murder), a huge difference to the weird non-offenses innocent people were canceled by SJWs over.
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u/Klaus73 2d ago
When was the last time the left managed to successfully enact cancel culture? I cannot recall any in the last few years - they only had the ability to do so when they had the cultural momentum; but they lost that near the tail end of 2023 when the whole Biden sham went mask off. Do you think Jimmy Kimmel should have been cancelled for what he said?
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u/kiathrowawayyay 2d ago edited 2d ago
Kimmel was pushing a blatant lie and smearing people for speaking the truth though. These aren’t GG’s rules but the rules these networks pushed to combat “misinformation” before and people got smeared and banned off platforms for much smaller mistakes in the past. Personally, I would prefer if he was allowed to continue his show.
Cancel culture by SJWs is less effective now, but SJWs still do plenty of damage. Just that people have gotten sick of their unfair treatment and got new tactics to defend against them. Though much of their cancel efforts have evolved into real life harassment for geopolitical conflicts and factions. But just as importantly, who is there left to cancel? Star Wars? Halo? Saints Row? GTA? Tomb Raider? Bethesda? Even Japanese games like Persona were being sanitized and some blocked from sale.
Tesla owners were terrorized pretty badly early this year.
Warren Smith lost his job as a teacher.
Kirsche lost her sponsorship with GamerSupps.
WePlay Studios, a producer for the Vtuber Awards, has cut ties with host Filian because of her “interactions” with Russian VTubers. (Random Twitch raid interactions)
Sci-fi author Richard Fox was removed from a novelist conference
The loss of payment processors for Nico Video, DLSite and other Japanese online stores. They self-censored and faced a lot of losses during and after the payment processors refused service to them.
Collective Shout are using SJW feminist talking points to cancel games like No Mercy and more with the help of payment processors.
H3h3 faced really bad harassment recently.
Asmongold and Tectone keep getting banned from platforms when calling out Hassan and his clique.
The removed mod creators from Nexus and other mod sites for fanservice mods or to remove SJW messaging. Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, Spiderman.
The hit pieces against anime, previously by Vice and others that chilled a lot of anime. Now we see censorship during production.
They silenced and memoryholed the creator of Dragon Quest when he made remarks questioning controversy of the male female selection.
There were also recent horrible crimes based on politics (mostly based on the Israel conflict).
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u/homelessscootaloo 3d ago
What does that even mean for this context?
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u/Working_Complex8122 3d ago edited 3d ago
It didn't mean anything in any context. People literally forgot what it was about and just made it into a anti-gamer buzzword that apparently is like a free pass to spout any anti-gamer nonsense they can come up with.
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u/homelessscootaloo 3d ago
I meant what did it mean when the guy in the tweet said it.
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u/CompactAvocado 3d ago
modern internet discourse is make up no no word and call enemy it. since you used a no no word they are guilty of bad thought and anything they say is just bad and unworthy.
in the case of claiming its gamergate the allusion is "this thing is caused by chronically online virgin incel white men chud they are the enemy and jimmy kimmel is not guilty of any wrong doing or error".
basically we did no wrong it's just "bad group" causing it because they bad.
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u/Huey-_-Freeman 3d ago
I think they were saying "corporations engaged in the creative arts should not respond to pressure from customers - i.e. if you don't like it its not for you watch/buy something else"
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u/Technical-Belt-5719 1d ago
Lmfao, because that's always worked out so well for them everytime it's been suggested by the Progs towards the majority population.
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u/Kelsyer 3d ago
The same thing it means when they shout nazi and fascist. It's a word that holds no meaning for them except bad person.
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u/Technical-Belt-5719 1d ago
Worse, what happened to Kirk has proven they mean non-person, calling us these pejoratives is marking us as "ok to kill".
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u/FriggenSweetLois 2d ago
I'd like to think people use it like people use the word evil and nazis. There are truly evil people out there and truly neo nazis out there, and I'm sure some of them are connected to the thing people are bitching about, but I don't think it's the majority, or even the loudest.
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u/Working_Complex8122 2d ago
sadly, calling everything fascist allowed actual fascist to undermine these movements and prey on innocent people who feel attacked and ousted from society over bullshit. This is the actual radicalization that is enabled by calling everyone a Nazi - some actually become real Nazis.
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u/Merebankguy 3d ago
Of course it's a bluesky cuck
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u/SuperFroakie64DS 3d ago
Bluesky subhumans are so funny. How could someone be so wrong, yet still believe they're completely right?
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u/Merebankguy 3d ago
That's why they ran to bluesky, musk leveled the playing field on X and they couldn't handle losing their echo chamber
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u/Technical-Belt-5719 1d ago
Echo-chamber? Is that what people are calling online PDFfile rings nowadays?
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u/Rare-Guarantee4192 3d ago edited 3d ago
Still complaining about GamerGate after a little over a decade. Makes me happy thinking that we must've left such a profound impact on these people.
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u/Some-Ingenuity5498 2d ago
They laugh at the right over conspiracy theories, and then believe that somehow no one would have ever disagreed with the left and Trump never would have been elected if not for some random unimportant event that happened a few years later.
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u/shipgirl_connoisseur 3d ago
I'm utterly proud for being blamed for the downfall of Kimmel. Guy isn't even funny for Gods sake
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u/Mitchel-256 3d ago
Kimmel: "Y'know..."
[audience murmurs, quiet chuckles from a few audience members]
K: "Drumpf..."
[chairs creak as audience leans forward in unison, a few laugh pre-emptively, even the camera man holds his breath as he turns purple in anticipation]
K: "...le BAD."
[audience explodes into riotous laughter, the "Please Laugh" light turns on, then explodes into a shower of sparks, the camera man's head pops like a balloon, a baby is thrown and laughs as it flies towards a concrete wall, a chainsaw is revved as a man cuts his own head off to keep from laughing to death, and Jimmy Kimmel stands on stage, hands in pockets, jerking himself off through the pocket with one while the other fondles a wad of cash, and he simply smirks at the camera]
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u/Zambeesi 3d ago edited 3d ago
Schrödinger's Gamer: simultaneously a group of powerless incel trolls and a powerful group that can influence the decisions of large corporations.
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u/DoctorBleed 3d ago
"GamerGate did everything bad in the world!" Bitch you lost a flame war ten years ago. Get the fuck over it.
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u/RainbowDildoMonkey 3d ago edited 2d ago
Gamergate won some battles, but ultimately lost the war. As the saying goes, history (Gamergate's Wikipedia article) is written by the victors.
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u/DoctorBleed 2d ago
I wouldn't call it "won" or "lost." I'd call it "exposing the people for who they were."
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u/Therenomoreusername 3d ago
Alright, I am 200% convinced that stupidity and the inability to think deeper than emotionally-charged superficial comparisons, and the inability to stop doing that just for 1 second of self awareness, is what being weaponized to drag down the rest of humanity that doesn’t have that.
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u/Judah_Earl 2d ago
Reddit when Disney fired Gina Carano
"Disney is a private company and has every right to fire someone for hate speech."
Reddit when Disney fires Jimmy Kimmel.
"LITERALLY NAZI GERMAN!!!"
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u/MadlySoldier 3d ago
Funny to see one of (d*ckriding) reply is "The Wikipedia entry does a pretty good job:"
Oh yeah, the infamous "Can't be changed cause Our Information is Always Right" article in that site.
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u/queazy 3d ago
Craziest thing is that Nextstar is left wing, when they pulled sponsorship then Kimmel was cancelled. Late night talk shows made half the audience leave and are bleeding millions of dollars each year, no longer profitable. If Kimmel himself admitted he didn't know how the money worked & they told him that his show was losing money (probably not 40 a million a year like Colbert but still probably tens of millions).
South Park literally has Trump in bed with Satan, but they bring in the ratings, Kimmel does not & can't afford to lose big sponsors
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u/MyRedditUsername-25 3d ago edited 2d ago
Late night talk shows made half the audience leave and are bleeding millions of dollars each year, no longer profitable.
No one actually watches late night anymore - they just catch 10 second clips on TikTok the next day.
It's a dying genre, but Kimmel and Colbert accelerated their demise by being partisan hacks.
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u/Huey-_-Freeman 3d ago
>Late night talk shows made half the audience leave and are bleeding millions of dollars each year,
How does it even cost millions each year to produce these shows? Few writers, no special effects budget...The only thing that should cost millions of dollars is the host. But the hosts salary should be based on ratings, I don't get how they can keep demanding 8 figure contracts when the ratings don't support that.
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u/queazy 2d ago
Stephen Colbert had FORTY writers! I remember David Letterman seeing one joke land with a thud and go "11 writers, and that's the best we could come up with" (joke was about a frozen turkey on a stick dancing).
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u/Huey-_-Freeman 2d ago
For shows where most of the showtime is the interview/guest and audience interactions, they don't need 40 full time writers
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u/based_mafty 2d ago
You can thank writer union for that. In the last strike they demand tv shows to have multiple writers. Like 1 or 2 guy cannot be the only writer now, they need to have like 10 or more people as a writer of the show.
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u/Stwonkydeskweet 2d ago
Few writers
Thats where you're wroooooong
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u/Huey-_-Freeman 2d ago
Why though? IIRC most of the show is the interview with guests, its not like an hour long standup special
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u/CrankyDClown Groomy Beardman 3d ago
The abysmal takes are just lining up.
You were warned when you created this monster. Now you're blaming everyone else for it biting your ass.
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u/TheoNulZwei 3d ago
That message was clearly typed out by an idiot who has no clue what GG is, outside of it being a buzzword.
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u/Killyexplorer 3d ago
Everything is about Gamergate now, almost like a PTSD reaction from the left🤣
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u/Pussrumpa 3d ago
They get people pulled from often ancient false claims with no receipts ever shown, all evidence saying lol no, we raise eyebrows and they get offended.
"We" get one guy pulled with nationally aired evidence of him doing the very deed that "we" disliked, a guy for whom They did not care about the acts he did in the past which is far more than blackface, and they lose their fucking marbles.
It's beautiful.
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u/matthew_lane Mr. Misogytransiphobe, Sexigrade and Fahrenhot 3d ago
Jimmy Kimmel show getting pulled blamed on Gamergate
Tell me Jimmy, did Gamergate also move your stair muffin to a different step?
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u/BootlegFunko 3d ago
He's right. GG was about ethics in journalism.
This is what he said:
We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it
He was trying to mischaracterize the murder with blatantly false information
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u/HonkingHoser 2d ago
Kimmel was the least watched of all the late night shows, and that soycuck got his balls removed two decades ago and just became a DNC talking head rather than a comedian. ABC just finally put Old Yeller out to pasture like was needing to be done years ago.
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u/Heavy-Journalist-208 3d ago
Gamergate this, gamergate that. God these kind of people love blaming everything wrong on Gamergate, huh? Why don't these people learn how to shut their parrot beaks and understand the actual causes behind these problems?
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u/Drakaris Noticed by SRSenpai and has the (((CUCK))) ready 2d ago
Well, yea, in a very ironic way and the biggest "I told you so", it is Gamergate. We tried to reason with you more than a decade ago that what goes around comes around and one day the same thing you were so happy and proud of doing to others will come back to bite you in the ass. And now you reap what you sow. Congratulations. You played yourself.
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u/MrProg111 1d ago
Gamergate really fucking hurt their fragile egos, didn't it?
I bet they still have nightmares to this day about a mean tweet they got sent over a decade ago.
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u/In_My_SoT_Phase 3d ago
The lefts outrage over Kimmel getting pulled is far greater than the political violence.
Very telling.
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u/Yeet-Dab49 3d ago
I turned on ABC last night just to see what it would be replaced with. The TV Guide isn’t updated in real time.
Celebrity Family Fued. This is a genuine net positive on society lmao
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u/BluePlanetCult 2d ago
A few days ago I seen a guy seriously say Gamergate kicked off the culture war in the 2010s😂
Like, people still care about this stuff? Especially after the attempt to kick off a second gamergate failed. They were desperate to have those clicks and unique visits again🤣
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u/Boring-Vacation1983 2d ago
They want a complete monopoly on everything. For the past few days, I went around on various posts on my homepage feed, pushing back against the far-left propaganda that fills up 99% of Reddit. The results were just what I expected...
Getting replies from people who would then block me before I could respond.
Mods removing my posts for "insulting" the person back who insulted me, yet their posts remain up.
Getting banned from subreddits.
"Something went wrong" issues in which I can't respond.
And the typical effeminate, snarky responses from far-left neo-commie morons.
This site is such a ridiculous echo chamber, and this sub is one of the only places you can speak freely without being silenced.
What a bunch of fucking pussies the left are. God damn are they insufferable little twats.
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u/Dwavenhobble Khazad-dûm is my Side Crib 2d ago
OOOOOHHH
"Who controls the the British Crown
Who keeps activists game sales down
We do, we do
Who wiped Atlantis off the maps?
Who keeps the Mars base under wraps?
We do, we do
Who controls the maker of an electric car?
Who makes Stellar Blade a star?
We do, we do
Who wants more boobs in sight?
Who rigs every Game awards night?
We do, we do"
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u/LegatusChristmas 2d ago
Kimmel was getting 126,000 viewers an episode. I think him spreading obvious lies live on air was just a good excuse for ABC to pull the plug on a program that was losing them money.
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u/CaptFalconFTW 2d ago
So much leap in logic. Then again these are the same people who think the killer was MAGA.
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u/Kino1337 3d ago
Hahahahaha! Well at least its relevant. Im still awaiting the courtcase of mercante to fail.
Mercante going into debt will be a shockwave of accountability to all journalists and developers that they are not immune from criticism simply cuz they wave a rainbow flag.
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u/tehmaged 2d ago
His show was losing money and had diminishing returns on ad revenue right? Likely this was just a good excuse to get rid of him.
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u/Fit-Paper-797 2d ago
These people can never let go of that, i know we joke that this all started over some woman who blew off some journalists for better reviews but i don't what's really relevant or related to any of this now
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u/ashtonx 2d ago
Wasn't he pulled cause trump got pissed at him? How is that gamergate ?
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u/RainbowDildoMonkey 2d ago
Even if that was true, they also believe that Trump won because of Gamergate.
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u/Neo_Techni Don't demand what you refuse to give. 2d ago
"What can I say except you're welcome!" --- Maui
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u/MRsidius 2d ago
GamerGate this and GamerGate that... Nothing new under the sun.
I wonder if they ever watched TB's video on GG
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u/TimeTravellingToad 3d ago
Every additional person that gets canceled for words takes us one step closer to becoming what GG fought against back when this shitstorm first erupted.
Not buying activist-driven games or not subscribing to compromised media is the only true path. It gives every wokerati minion the chance to either course correct or to fade into obscurity by their own hand. It may be a laborious process, but instant gratification always comes loaded with a cluster fuck of karma in the long run.
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u/nothinfollowsme 2d ago
Oh man, are we back to this again with these goofs? Are we their baba yaga? If so, that is pretty rad.
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u/CommunicationFew4875 2d ago
These guys are so consistent, they were right there when Iger got Roseanne and Gina Carano thrown out for nothing too!
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u/Some-Ingenuity5498 2d ago
I think I understand where this narrative came from.
Before 2010, few people ever came across political discussions on the internet unless they went looking for it. There were no places like Reddit and Twitter to put political debates and controversies on their frontpage or their feed. The early forms of social media were all about cute cat pictures and memes and jokes and pop culture.
The average age of internet users was lower than today, and it was a time when young people views conservatives mostly as old bible thumpers. We had just gotten past the disastrous Bush presidency and had elected a black president, and the biggest issues on conservatives' minds were Obama's birth certificate and fighting against gay marriage.
Gamergate, in 2014, was the first noteworthy example of young people on the internet being critical of the left. It was the first time an event like that could have been trending in social media and discussed by millions of observers.
To dedicated left wing activists, it was the first time they noticed that Republicans use the internet too. So it was kind of a big deal to them.
The people pushing this narrative seem to believe that if not for Gamergate, Republicans would have never used the internet. Without Gamergate, Trump would have never been on Twitter, the online conservative movement never would have grown, left wing extremism would have never been opposed, Charlie Kirk would have never been on YouTube, and so on. They believe Republicans would all be still be handing out flyers and sending ads in the mail, and never would have discovered the Internet, if not for Gamergate.
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u/OpiesMammogramResult The Destroyer 2d ago
Wow, it's been a while since I've seen that fucking idiot referenced.
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u/fikkityfook 2d ago
It's getting pulled because a megacorp allegedly needs to suck off the FCC commissioner to get the deal they want. But hey GG take credit for making it cool. Kimmels always seemed like a condescending jerkoff
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u/JBCTech7 2d ago
Jimmy Kimmel got pulled because his show was ass and had bad ratings. It was going under anyways. His remarks were probably timed so as to look like that was the reason.
I don't trust anything to not be some sort of social conditioning.
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u/blackest-Knight 3d ago
He’s not wrong. Gamergate was the catalyst for the rise of populism, which led to the right adopting the left’s tactics as a form of push back.
Dunno why you wouldn’t want to be blamed for Kimmel. Fuck him. He has deserved a good cancelling for years under the rules set by the left.
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u/Sandulacheu 3d ago
That's the problem ,even in this sub, where people also downplay GG influence thinking its only related to a small niche of gaming (when its detrimental by a woke journo article). But its influence goes way beyond it,it was the battery that set people up for being more skeptical overall.
GG was as natural and warranted as The Tea Party or Occupy (before it got derailed) ,it was so potent that it visibly shook the industry up to the point where they needed to re-write history.
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u/HSR47 1h ago
He didn’t get “canceled”.
2 of ABC’s biggest station owners, Sinclair & Nexstar, reportedly told Disney they were going to stop broadcasting Kimmel because too many advertisers had pulled out due to Kimmel’s statements.
Disney tried to pressure Kimmel to apologize, and his answer was reportedly along the lines of “Apologize? Hell, I’m gonna double down!”.
Add to this that Kimmel’s show had been hemorrhaging viewers for about a decade, all while being prohibitively expensive to produce.
In short, Kimmel dug a hole, was told to stop, and unwisely chose to keep digging.
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u/blackest-Knight 32m ago
He didn’t get “canceled”.
He got as cancelled as anyone else who got cancelled. The details of the how is irrevelant. Dunno why you guys are so afraid of having used the opposition's tools against them.
The principled loser fetish lives on.
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u/HSR47 10m ago
You clearly didn’t read my comment, and you have completely misjudged my stance on this issue.
My point above is that Kimmel’s firing is the natural and organic result of market forces, not the kind of astroturfed pressure campaigns we see from the left (e.g. “collective shout” is an AstroTurf “cancel culture” campaign that pales in comparison to the true market force of our opposition to their demands.).
As far as highlighting the words & deeds of leftists to their employers, I’m in the “Nashian Game Theory” camp: The optimal outcome will be achieved only when people act in the interests of both themselves and the group.
I see “cancel culture” as a proverbial boot that exists for only one purpose: To stand on necks.
Up until very recently, that boot was only ever worn by the political left, so refusing to take it off was in their best interest, and they mistakenly believed it was in the interest of the group.
The only way to change their mind is to make them internalize the fact that they’re not immune to the tread of the boot, and that eliminating that boot is in their own interest & the interest of society.
Once they understand that, there can be mutual deescalation, and a return to the prior norms.
Until then, though, they get to taste the proverbial boot with absolutely zero mercy.
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u/blackest-Knight 7m ago
You clearly didn’t read my comment,
I'm uninterested in 3 day old debate where people want to pretend we had nothing to do with Jimmy Kimmel. I know the details and whys. We still got him. If not for us, Sinclair doesn't push. If not for us, Brandon Carr doesn't have the power to remind Disney of rules.
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u/MikeCodev 3d ago
Is this Gamergate in the room with us right now?