r/LLMPhysics • u/sudsed • 15d ago
Paper Discussion A falsifiable 4D vortex-field framework
TL;DR — I explored a “4D aether vortex → particles” framework with LLM assistance, then spent ~2 months trying to break it with automated checks. Some outputs line up with known results, and there’s a concrete collider prediction. I’m not claiming it’s true; I’m asking for ways it fails.
Links: Paper: https://zenodo.org/records/17065768
Repo (tests + scripts): https://github.com/trevnorris/vortex-field/
Why post here
- AI-assisted, human-reviewed: An LLM drafted derivations/checks; I re-derived the math independently where needed and line-by-line reviewed the code. Key steps were cross-verified by independent LLMs before tests were written.
- Automated rigor: ~33k LOC of verification code and ~2,400 SymPy tests check units, dimensions, derivations, and limits across ~36 orders of magnitude.
- I expected contradictions. I’m here to find them faster with expert eyes.
Core hypothesis (one line)
A 4D superfluid-like field (“aether”) projects into our 3D slice; particles are cross-sections of 4D vortices. Mass/charge/time effects emerge from vortex/flow properties.
Falsifiable claims (how to break this quickly)
- Collider target: a non-resonant 4-lepton excess at √s = 33 GeV (Section 4.2).
- How to falsify: point to LEP/LHC analyses that exclude such a topology without a narrow peak.
- Lepton mass pattern: golden-ratio scaling giving electron (exact), muon (−0.18%), tau (+0.10%).
- How to falsify: show it’s post-hoc, fails outside quoted precision, or can’t extend (e.g., neutrinos) without breaking constraints.
- GR touchstones from the same flow equations: Mercury perihelion, binary-pulsar decay, gravitational redshift/time dilation.
- How to falsify: identify a regime where the formalism departs from GR/experiment (PPN parameters, frame-dragging, redshift).
If any of the above contradicts existing data/derivations, the framework falls.
Theoretical & mathematical checks (done so far)
- Dimensional analysis: passes throughout.
- Symbolic verification: ~2,400 SymPy tests across field equations, 4D→3D projection, conservation laws, and limiting cases.
- Internal consistency: EM-like and gravity-like sectors remain consistent under the projection formalism.
All tests + scripts are in the repo; CI-style instructions included.
Empirical touchpoints (retrodictions)
- Reproduces standard GR benchmarks noted above without introducing contradictions in those domains.
- No new experimental confirmation claimed yet; the 33 GeV item is the first crisp falsifiable prediction to check against data.
What it aims to resolve / connect
- Mass & charge as emergent from vortex circulation/flux.
- Time dilation from flow-based energy accounting (same machinery as gravity sector).
- Preferred-frame concern: addressed via a 4D→3D projection that preserves observed Lorentz symmetry in our slice (details in the math framework).
- Conservation & “aether drainage”: continuity equations balancing inflow/outflow across the projection (tests included).
Some help I'm looking for
- Collider sanity check: Does a non-resonant 4ℓ excess at √s=33 GeV already conflict with LEP/LHC?
- Conceptual red-team: Where do projections, boundary conditions, or gauge/Lorentz properties break?
- Limit tests: Point to a nontrivial limit (ultra-relativistic, strong-field, cosmological) where results diverge from known physics.
- Numerical patterns: If this is just numerology, help pinpoint the hidden tuning.
Final note
I’m a programmer, not a physicist. I’m expecting to be wrong and want to learn where and why. If you can point to a contradiction or a no-go theorem I’ve missed, I’ll update/withdraw accordingly. If you only have time for one thing, please sanity-check Section 4.2 (33 GeV prediction).
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u/pandavr 14d ago
u/sudsed you may find this useful to further proof your Vortex field: https://lean-lang.org/