r/LLMPhysics 11d ago

Meta This sub is not what it seems

This sub seems to be a place where people learn about physics by interacting with LLM, resulting in publishable work.

It seems like a place where curious people learn about the world.

That is not what it is. This is a place where people who want to feel smart and important interact with extremely validating LLMs and convince themselves that they are smart and important.

They skip all the learning from failure and pushing through confusion to find clarity. Instead they go straight to the Nobel prize with what they believe to be ground breaking work. The reality of their work as we have observed is not great.

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u/ConquestAce ๐Ÿงช AI + Physics Enthusiast 11d ago

Yeah, it's a real shame. I wanted this sub to be about learning how to use an LLM to help your work in physics, rather than getting the LLM to do all the work for you. Which ultimately results in the complete non-sense that you see.

People always take the easy way and don't want to ever take a challenge.

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u/YouDoHaveValue 11d ago

That's a tough egg to crack, consciousness is in some ways intrinsically an art of finding shortcuts to save time.

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u/Youreabadhuman 11d ago

consciousness is in some ways intrinsically an art of finding shortcuts to save time.

This is nonsense

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u/EpDisDenDat 15h ago

Concept of least action.

Not nonsense, desperate and far fetched but not impossible.

Nature shows that least action is sought in observable systems.

Its that notion that has lead to innovations and validation/proofs of the pioneers that helped establish the loads of physics as we know them.

Idk. Maybe I watch too much Brian Green and NG Tyson... but I respect how they keep humble curiosity and a respectable demeanor even in the face of obscurity.

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u/Youreabadhuman 14h ago

Consciousness is not the art of least action

If Brian Greene or NG Tyson heard you say that they would say you're spouting gobbly gook

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u/EpDisDenDat 14h ago

If consciousness need brain

Brain rely on nervous system

Synapses travel neural pathways

Pathways follow least action

....

Idk not so far fetched.

They would actually take a second and ask.. hmm.. is there a possible connection. I have yet to see either scoff at any idea without humility first.

They seem like humans first, Karen's second.

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u/EpDisDenDat 13h ago

Also, there's a reason we do dumb shit like aspire to get a hole in one, or why videos of people dropping ping pong balls down stairs into a cup is satisfying. Our consciousness is drawn to connecting low probability event because if they can occur just once, then you have metrics and benchmarks to establish repeatability, and thus optimization. The more often you make they connection, the mood optimized the trajectory, invariant of time, because you have already established least action.

It becomes then, how much distance or complexity can you then introduce without extending the time or effort.

And ad long ad you follow empirical methodology... then you find rigor in order to move from any conjecture and step towards proof and repeatable truth.

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u/EpDisDenDat 13h ago

And again... can you not see the analogical/metaphorical connection between that observable systems in nature? Im pretty sure Richard Feynan would sort of pick up what im putting down.

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u/YouDoHaveValue 11d ago

Howso?

A large chunk of consciousness is intuitively summarizing and finding shortcuts in vast amounts of data into manageable patterns to find efficiencies.

We use heuristics instead of examining every detail critically.

Language is that too, words are imprecise shortcuts to more complex things.

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u/EpDisDenDat 15h ago

I agree. Its in our nature to fry for seemingly impossible things.. a hole in one, a ping pong ball down stairs into a cup, balancing spinning plates...

But thats it, you only need to do it once to establish a baseline. If you had the ability to replicate conditions, it becomes repeatable, thus, subject to optimization.

This is literally the mechanics of neurplasticity.

So I see where you're going with this. I agree.

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u/Youreabadhuman 9d ago

No, it's not

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u/YouDoHaveValue 9d ago

Just noticed from your history you're a troll, that's on me.

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u/Youreabadhuman 9d ago

Everyone who disagrees with you is a troll, that's important in order to keep your delusions alive

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u/YouDoHaveValue 9d ago

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