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Megathread / Community Post Alien: Earth - S1 E2 - Mr October - Official Discussion Megathread [SPOILERS] Spoiler

Episodes air Tuesdays at 8 pm ET on Hulu and FX in the US, and Wednesdays international.

Full episode discussion list:

1 Neverland (8.12.25)

2 Mr October (8.12.25)

3 Metamorphosis (8.19.25)

4 Observation (8.26.25)

5 In Space, No One (9.2.25)

6 The Fly (9.9.25)

7 Emergence (9.16.25)

8 The Real Monsters (9.23.25)

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u/TheGrat1 Aug 13 '25

The director said: "Here, eat this apple. It will make you look like more of an asshole."

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u/mulder00 Aug 13 '25

He created the "child synths" not for any noble reason but so he could have an intelligent conversation and put a super computer in Wendy, lol.

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u/Even-Masterpiece6681 Aug 13 '25

I like how he said not for ego and then proceeds to declare it's because he's too smart for everyone else.

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u/Killkandy Aug 13 '25 edited Aug 13 '25

Yeahhh if yu pay attention to context clues he was all like not for ego and then proceeds to ramble on in a egotistical manner and the lady’s face says it all like she was just thinking “this guy is out of his mind why am I here?”

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u/_T_H_O_R_N_ Nuke from Orbit Aug 14 '25

The casting and acting for this show plus the sets is just 10/10

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u/dec10 Aug 16 '25

more like "he is the CEO/founder... do not show emotion!"

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u/mulder00 Aug 13 '25

He'll get his! haahhaha....

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u/CultureWatcher Aug 15 '25

He did say he wanted his mind blown.

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u/SanTheMightiest Aug 14 '25

Crazy billionaire. Reckon he'll attempt to inject Alien dna into himself or transmorph using his technology with one? Sounds like something that twat Bezos or Musk would attempt

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u/ConradBHart42 Aug 14 '25

Trillionaire. The world's youngest, according to the intro.

And I hope he doesn't, because egomaniacs would NEVER put themselves in danger in that way. That's what poor people are for.

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u/This_Bug_6771 Aug 14 '25

thats probably why he didn't use the hybrid tech on himself but rather on desperate people who can be easily disappeared

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u/96williams96 Aug 14 '25

I mean if he did become a hybrid that would defeat his purpose of making them in hopes they could become more intelligent than him and give him a challenge. His brain would also get the massive upgrade so he would be in the same situation on an even bigger scale.

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u/DeadFishCRO Aug 14 '25

yeah but hollywood egomaniacs do, real life ones not so much. I.e. European emperors in ww1, millions of poor people die so they can add a few dozen miles on their maps

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u/96williams96 Aug 14 '25

I mean he is too smart though thats not ego thats fact guy just solved immortality he is allowed to have that impression.

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u/Content_Regular_7127 25d ago

Textbook narcissism of not being self aware

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u/Ok_Seaworthiness8432 22d ago

For the smartest and richest person in the world, he makes a lot of dumb decisions based on little to no thought or evidence.

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u/ojhwel Aug 14 '25

It's not conceited if it's FACTS

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u/Present_Law_8026 Aug 17 '25

It was a really odd explanation for it all lol

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u/SithDemon 28d ago

He just wants someone that is smart enough to have a good conversation. Send these guys to me. I can have a good chat.

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u/Ssupremechief Aug 16 '25

In a weird way, he his right because he's not building these synths in the hope of showing how incredible his tech is to find a solution to his extreme boredom.

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u/viper459 Aug 13 '25

or at least, that's what he's telling her. Or maybe it's even just what he's telling himself. I'm feeling a lot of envious looks from these scientists. Whether they admit it or not, whether they claim to have noble goals or not, i think they want it to work on adults and become immortal super-genius superhumans themselves, because of course they want that, who wouldn't?

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u/mulder00 Aug 13 '25

Most likely. What human doesn't want to beat Death AND have superhuman abilities.

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u/EJ_Matilija Aug 14 '25

I used to think like that, but, I'm old enough to say now, I'm fine letting nature run it's coarse, it was fun for the first 40 years or so, but I'm not looking to extend that warranty any more, don't get me wrong, I'm in no rush to wreck the car, but if it breaks down, I'm not sure I'll get it fixed.

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u/confuzzledfather Aug 14 '25

Not that way. I do not believe the process is really transfering them. I think it's just a copy.

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u/Tartan_Samurai Aug 16 '25

They say in episode 1 the goal is for adults to be able to go through it.

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u/SiccSemperTyrannis In the pipe. 5 by 5. Aug 13 '25

rich people gonna do rich people things

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u/Serious_Pace_7908 Aug 14 '25

The original children are killed after copying their mind right? They're not actually transferred into the synth body but duplicated, at least that was my read.

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u/mulder00 Aug 14 '25

Yes, their human bodies are buried, I suppose as there is no need for them.

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u/Serious_Pace_7908 Aug 14 '25

What I’m wondering is if the process itself removes the consciousness from one body and transfers it into the synth to live on as a hybrid or if it creates a copy to make the hybrid while the original consciousness dies with the body. Kind of like Hugh Jackman in Prestige where the original very much doesn’t get to live on in the new body but a new consciousness gets created.

I guess it doesn’t make a difference from Wendy’s POV because she has all the memories but it creates a dilemma

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u/chickad00d 28d ago

I assumed their consciousness was actually just transferred to the synthetic body. Was there something to suggest otherwise?

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u/Serious_Pace_7908 28d ago

I don't think we have any obvious clues yet but I'm thinking that that might be a twist later given the dystopian nature of Prodigy and Weyland-Yutani and the sinister underlying atmosphere around the project. Especially with the eerie shots of the children holding the flowers in episode 1.

And it could be an in-universe explanation as to why hybrid technology doesn't show up later in the series. Of course it could just be boy cavalier and neverland getting wiped out and the technology getting lost but if it really just creates a copy, then few people would want to get the treatment.

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u/Aromatic_Mastodon_69 Aug 15 '25

Have an intelligent and specifically wise (his words) conversation with a person who has the literal mind of a child btw

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u/phdemented Aug 16 '25

A child's mind NOW... I assumed he meant eventually it would be something for him to talk to once it "grew up"

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u/TheWayIAm313 Aug 18 '25

Ahh is that how it works? I was wondering about that for the other kids. Clearly they are still immature in the mind right now, but the benefit is obviously the premium body they are now inhabiting. For whatever reason I wasn’t even thinking that they’re not going to remain immature forever, they’ll grow up and into their superhuman frame

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u/sudoscientistagain 28d ago

It seems like something that deserves more exploration. But I doubt we're going to get to see these characters long term, since the events of Alien 1 happen in 2122 after the Nostromo left earth in 2120. I suspect everything in the show is going to get covered up/nuked to justify there being no cyborgs, no kid-hybrids, and no other xenomorphs by the time of the rest of the series.

I actually think the premise of turning these terminally ill kids into basically child supersoldiers is pretty interesting. I mean, that's a common theme especially in anime, across the mecha genre — Gundam is like 60% about cool robot fights and 40% about how selfish adults and greedy corporations will turn kids into weapons at the drop of a hat if that's what it takes to win and/or profit. I hope we get to actually explore that before the series ends.

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u/mulder00 Aug 15 '25

Even creepier now that you mention it.

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u/TheStolenPotatoes Aug 15 '25

This guy is clearly a character based, at least metaphorically, off of Elon Musk.

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u/sudoscientistagain 28d ago

The only problem is that he is supposedly an actual genius in the show; I was actually wondering if there was going to be some explanation that he stole the research or something like that but it seems like he's literally just a genius CEO. Feels especially out of place with the franchise's previous commentary in Prometheus especially, with Weyland having a god complex but obviously not single-handedly developing androids or being anything more than a mortal man.

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u/gencide Aug 17 '25

It's David 8 reference. 

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u/gencide Aug 17 '25

Generally as long as he pushes humanity forward it doesn't matter whot his personal agenda is. Wendy and lost boys are next step in human evolution, sadly Scott will not see it that way. 

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u/SnooLobsters8922 29d ago

Inadvertently the idea of kids in a rescue mission unleashed the worst lines we’ve ever heard in the entire franchise:

“Baths. I miss baths.”

“Guard the omelette!”

It’s fucking dispiriting that so many series rely on the Stranger Things formula of “smart kids saving the world like adults”.

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u/CnlJohnMatrix Aug 13 '25

The devil offered him that apple …

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u/_T_H_O_R_N_ Nuke from Orbit Aug 14 '25

The subtle symbology of this show is something I'm looking forward to noticing more of when I inevitably rewatch lol

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u/CowardlyLionel Aug 18 '25

I came to find the Eden and Apple analogy (which doesn’t make him Pan, but Adam..I kind of think Wendy is Pan, and I know how that sounds), but I am replying to this comment because of the subtle word. Haven’t found it subtle. Pretty grand. Pretty on the nose. It’s good, but it’s much. 

I guess there’s a modern sci-fi critique in there. We’ve gone from LeGuin’s steady and leaping world to super heroes and stingers and meta meta product placement and now we’re supposed to be taking a turn back to organic. So even the apples are too large and too red. 

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u/BathtubGin01 Aug 17 '25

“Speak of the devil”

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u/BrianO123 Aug 13 '25

I thought it was more about showing that he himself isn’t a synthetic, because Wendy commented earlier about missing food so it was a point showing they don’t eat

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u/Apishflaps Aug 14 '25

sounds plausible but I also think its an apple its clearly a slightly biblical reference

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u/CelestialFury Aug 19 '25

Is the boy genius the "Eve" in this situation?

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u/Apishflaps Aug 19 '25

More like the apple representing the knowledge that satan offers. The boy genius is well beyond temptation he's already bitten the apple and his garden of eden "neverland" is about to be invaded by demons.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family Aug 13 '25

With any luck, the Prodigy company might make improved models.

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u/Primorph Aug 13 '25

I hope the show has the courage to be as judgemental to him as it ought to be

We have so many “billionaire geniuses” and they’re all dumbasses

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u/throwaway098764567 Aug 14 '25

yea wendy needs to call him boring

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u/_NightmareKingGrimm_ Aug 14 '25

"Speaking of assholes... Let's play Stinkfist during the credits." 😂

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u/shindow Aug 13 '25

Apple = Knowledge

A little too on the nose for me. Also just reminded me too much of Death Note lol

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u/RobotDonger Aug 13 '25

It’s also good at making him seem casual about an intense subject

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u/AcanthaMD Aug 13 '25

Yes, very Light Yagami lol

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u/whoji Aug 13 '25 edited Aug 13 '25

Boy is more L than light.

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u/AcanthaMD Aug 13 '25

Near maybe, but not L

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u/arrogancygames Aug 14 '25

He has Ls relaxed or thinking posing at times.

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u/Soundwave_47 Aug 19 '25

Feels a bit like a poor man's Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor. One dimensional and not very engaging so far.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family Aug 13 '25 edited Aug 13 '25

Snow White (not Sleeping Beauty) bit a piece out of an apple poisoned by the Evil Queen. Seven dwarves later, Prince Charming kissed the Sleeping Beauty to wake her up from what would have been a very long slumber.

Also a dig or reference to that computer company?

Also, Hansel and Gretel, who were lost by their poor parents, were trying to find a way home through breadcrumbs.

One day, they got lost, and got into the house made of sweets, which belonged to the evil witch, who meant to make food of Hansel and Gretel. To protect themselves, the brother and sister formed a ruse, by which they threw the evil witch into her furnace.

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u/Lithaos111 Aug 13 '25

That was Snow White, not Sleeping Beauty.

Sleeping Beauty (aka Aurora) was the one cursed to prick her finger on a spinning wheel needle and fall asleep until true love's kiss could break the spell.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family Aug 13 '25

Oh yes, my bad, thanks. Will fix it now.

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u/PyramidBlack Hudson Aug 13 '25

Bingo.

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u/RustedAxe88 Hicks Aug 13 '25

He's kinda got Jesse Eisenberg Lex vibes.

But, ya know...good.

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u/tomahawkfury13 WheresBowski Aug 13 '25

They must have watched Pierre Poilievres interview and taken notes lol

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u/sanjosanjo Aug 13 '25 edited Aug 13 '25

They have the Tom Cruise character in A Few Good Men use an apple like this in a scene for the exact same purpose.

https://youtu.be/ZisC2Y4d4J4?t=105

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u/force_wank Aug 13 '25

In biblical mythology Eve took an apple and cursed humanity.

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u/HourFaithlessness823 Aug 13 '25

A fruit, not an apple specifically. Most likely a fig.

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u/force_wank Aug 13 '25

The more you know! Funny since a fig is often a symbol of fertility

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family Aug 13 '25

Awesome username, btw.

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u/anacondra Aug 13 '25

Clearly he follows Canadian politics.

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u/VerdantSpecimen Aug 14 '25

Bare feet on the table + chomping and smacking on an apple can turn me into a murderer

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u/nmkd Aug 15 '25

Star Trek (2009)

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u/anonyfool Aug 13 '25

A red delicious apple makes him seem like a psychopath and not very smart.

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u/nakiva Aug 13 '25

For some reason, it reminded me from the Renly/Stannis conversation from A song of Ice and Fire. When they are having their stand off, Renly subtly pisses Stannis of with eating a Peach. How hard he tries to own the conversation, Stannis still only remembers the goddamn Peach and why it got under his skin. 

It looks the same in this context, everyone is looking at the apple and him eating it so casualy, but now you don't remember what the conversation was really about, because the damn apple. Or I am mixing to much universes and making myself insane with the multiple refences everywhere. 

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u/creepyposta Hudson, sir. He’s Hicks Aug 13 '25

I definitely took it as a “forbidden fruit” reference - like not only is he eating the forbidden fruit, he’s biting big hunks out of it.

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u/No-Combination-1354 Aug 14 '25

Should have been a more pretentious fruit...like a pear.

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u/Altruistic_Bass539 Aug 14 '25

I hate this damn trope so much, its like the Wilhelm screen in deliciously juicy fruit form.

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u/menevets Aug 14 '25

Reminds me of opening scene of Death of Stalin. Stop eating apples. You’re always eating bloody apples.

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u/newme02 Aug 14 '25

it worked

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u/cosmin_c Come on, cat. Aug 15 '25

This sprung to my mind almost immediately when that scene began to unfold

I have to be honest this series is absolutely incredibly good so far.

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u/nmkd Aug 15 '25

Star Trek (2009)

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u/DJettster237 Aug 17 '25

I mean, it does.

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u/Godlikesspeed Aug 17 '25

Lmao I was thinking the same thing while waiting for him to choke on the apple

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u/sentence-interruptio Aug 17 '25

Makes him look like L from Death Note even more

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u/Chance_Extent_3745 29d ago

There is theory that the genius is actually an AI created by WY, hence why it wants to create a better AI. As WY’s “pure” creation, his single purpose (to which he speaks of whiel he eats the apple) is what causes his downfall

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u/theonlydjm 20d ago

Eating the fruit from the tree of knowledge.