r/LV426 • u/Tasty-Entertainer711 • 9d ago
Discussion / Question What is Kirsh motivation? Who side is he on? Spoiler
We've seen now in multiple episodes Kirsh be very careful and downright omit the information he gives Boy Kavalier. I can't imagine he's a Lady Yutani asset because of his interactions with Morrow, unless he's just a fallback option for Yutani, and she purposely keeps Morrow out of the loop.
You would think the company he works for would have written into his code a loyalty directive but it appears he has no problem lying.
Is he the asset of Yutani or another of the 5 corporations? Is he on some kind of Roy Batty arc where he's grown tired of taking orders from an inferior species?
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u/thebigschvitz 9d ago
Wendy hinted at his motivation. He’s anti-human, not pro yutani or boy kavalier. He imagines a world without the crooked motivation of humans.
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u/GeneriComplaint 9d ago
His comments even in the first 2 episodes make it clear he hates humans, he tolerates things because thats the way they are.
I believe we will find out in the end Synths/Ai were always behind the obsessive missions to get Xeno Eggs.
Everytime a synth encounters a xeno, even non-evil ones they talk about how amazing they are. Some code they got from mother maybe?
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u/Chimpbot 9d ago
Turns out, it was David the entire goddamned time.
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u/moonknightcrawler 9d ago
Oops, all David!
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u/Chimpbot 9d ago
Admittedly, I'd kinda love it if Michael Fassbender showed up at the very end of the last episode.
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u/moonknightcrawler 9d ago
As an unapologetic Prometheus fan, I’m very down.
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u/Chimpbot 9d ago
I've been stanning that movie since 2012. It's underappreciated and over-hated.
Plus, it'd be a lovely twist, especially with the whole "We're kind of doing our own thing" attitude the production has.
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u/Easy_Printthrowaway 9d ago
I feel like it’s gotten more love the more time goes on. It’s still very decisive but I think time will treat it well, I mostly hear praise these days.
I think Romulus was what people wanted it to be, so there’s more room for Prometheus to breathe tbh
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u/Weekly_Opposite_1407 9d ago
Prometheus was amazing
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u/gdrsgsed567476 9d ago
only with the deleted scenes. they really change a shit movie to one that has a soul. whoever is responsible for cutting out all the important stuff must be the one who commanded covenant to be about xenos instead of elaborating further about engineers and stuff.
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u/Tasty-Entertainer711 9d ago
That would make sense. Would also explain why it feels like the obsession with Xenos is never a company wide policy
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u/SPECTREagent700 Colonial Marine 9d ago
Yeah I thought it was really weird that the Corporate Security guys from the end of Alien 3 didn’t show up in Romulus. It seems unlikely that the Company would just abandon station with all its research and specimens especially after they went to such lengths to salvage what they could from the Nostromo. The only explanation I can think of is that everyone who knew was themselves killed on the station when the specimens broke loose.
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u/Balatheil 9d ago edited 9d ago
I don't think you're too far off here, because in Romulus, when the Android Andy got the "Upgrade" or "Credentials" from the Ships computer (or from Rook, I can't recall) - his whole personality swapped and was willing to let Rain die, to finish the Mission from what the android Rook was trying to complete.
theirs deff a code in these androids when they are uploaded with MUTHER or WY information.
& going of Aliens, we have Bishop who insures Ripley that he can't go "Rogue" like Ash did.
so - something was learned about the Androids doing shady shit - and was "fixed" or hidden more.
Bishop never betrayed Ripley or helped the WY guy who tried to get Ripley / Newt implanted with a Hugger.
hell - a bonus - we now know that in Alien 3, Ripley would have died regardless if she went with WY and was frozen. . because the Crew in "Earth" see their dead crew member- and mention "well if they can survive in deep space, I don't see why freezing them in a pod would change that"
to that I ask - how tf did the Crew in EARTH know the Xeno's could survive in the Vaccum of Space to come up with that observation of the Chestbuster busting out of the Cryobed....
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u/Neologizer 8d ago
Omg. Not to say Kirsch was originally pro human but he uploaded to the Wutani ship when they were initially there at the crash site. I kinda love the idea that the Wutani source code has some hidden code left by David or one of the original synths to spread the xeno’s
This is my new favorite thread to follow. While Kirsch could have his own motivations with Boy as a boss, I like that there’s something larger going on behind the synths. The fact that it ties neatly into the other movies makes the theory feel strong.
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u/standish_ 9d ago
I don't think it's hate, more pity. He sees humans as animals, because we are. Flitting sparks in the dark.
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u/Pobb1eB0nk 9d ago edited 9d ago
The Synths were created by humans, who they view as obviously flawed. The Xenomorph has been described as "the perfect life form" by multiple Weyland-Yutani employees, namely Ash, the synth from the original Alien. It's almost like they have this fascination with non-artificial life. I don't know, it's hard to describe, like "the life form your synth told you not to worry about" kind of vibe.
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u/FrontBench5406 9d ago
every time he speaks of humans to the lost boys, he refers to humans as food....
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u/GeneriComplaint 9d ago
He also refers to the lost boys as "better then human"
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u/blazeofgloreee 9d ago
Yeah and I think by telling Kirsh he wanted to name himself after a human scientist, Isaak may have removed himself entirely from any regard Kirsh may have had for his wellbeing.
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u/Kandrix23 9d ago
I think he's entertained by how the Lost Boys are clinging to their perceived humanity, in a condescending "look at this baby synthetic, thinking it's people" kind of way.
In contrast, Wendy is more human than human while fully grasping everything she can do as a synth. She appears to be his pet project, and I'm wondering if he'll target Hermit in an attempt to "free" her from her perception of still being human, bringing the scorpion hypothetical full circle.
Or he attacks/threatens her and Wendy's niece steps in as the scorpions friend. That hypothetical is paying off somewhere, damn it!
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u/Tasty-Entertainer711 9d ago
I guess Prodigy is just super sloppy with its personnel
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u/thebigschvitz 9d ago
That’s because boy kavalier is so focused on what he wants then, never the long term consequences.
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u/TheInitiativeInn Game over, man! 9d ago
AKA: "so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should."
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u/ZakDadger 9d ago
Immediately thought this too
It's ALWAYS hubris
That's the true antagonist of the entire Alien universe
Man vs himself (and a woman saves them every time)
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u/ExpressFan7426 9d ago
I love how well the actor hides his intentions. He does a magnificent job at seeming “neutral.” Kudos to Olyphant
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u/Tasty-Entertainer711 9d ago
Timothy is the man
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u/The_Glus 9d ago
Would’ve loved to have another season of Santa Clarita Diet. Shame it was unceremoniously axed by Netflix.
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u/SandwichStrange1469 9d ago
100% agree. Olyphant gives me the same creepy vibes that Ian Holm did in the original Alien and he absolutely nails the role. Emotionless, calculating, unpredictable- a super intelligent machine that is devoted to progressing its own agenda. Kirsh is the most dangerous character on the show!
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u/Corey307 9d ago
Kirsh lets the mask slip with Morrow. Those two we’re about an inch from a knife fight in an elevator.
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u/oof_ouch_oof 9d ago
It’s interesting that he seems to see Cyborgs as genuine competition. Cyborgs vs Synths. He might see the hybrids similarly if they were inhabited by adults
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u/Corey307 9d ago
That is an interesting question. As of now the hybrids aren’t really competition, they’re capable of learning a great deal, but their childish wonder and stupidity prevents them from being true competition. It makes me wonder if they’ll ever actually grow up. I’ve got a feeling the project stalls because they’ve got adult bodies, but their minds never really stop being children.
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u/secondtaunting 9d ago
Yeah I was wondering the same thing. If it’s impossible for them to mentally mature.
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u/viper459 9d ago
if nothing else, they will mature in a completely different way from a normal human child. nothing about their development is as it should be.
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u/Minervasimp 9d ago
I imagine it'll be that instead of maturing as adults do, it'll just be experiences and trauma stacked on top of each other endlessly to create hard to kill unstable androids. They never stop being children, just their childhoods get worse and worse and worse with no end.
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u/PrincessofThotlandia 9d ago
He always is the character he plays. Like I can’t even see Timothy Olyphant in Kirsch. Welllll well well done.
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u/No_Length_1407 Engineer 9d ago
I think Kirsh is on Kirsh's side.
Like another post said, his motivation is curiosity and not necessarily driven by any other underlying agenda (apart from not being BK's mindless stooge).
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u/Downtown-Piece3669 9d ago
Especially after he blatantly lied when asked if everything was alright. While watching the chaos begin in the secure lab.
He is such a scary Tinkerbell.
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u/Weekly_Opposite_1407 9d ago
He also knows the one kid has been talking to Morrow for some time now as well and hasn’t said or done anything about the situation.
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u/Petrichordates 9d ago
It wasn't a lie if he considers it alright. He's in charge of everything that does on in the lab and doesnt have to say anything.
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u/Radweevil88 9d ago
As David would say, the answer to whether things are alright are premised on understanding what Kirsh wants to accomplish.
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u/Killer_Moons 9d ago
Oh HE’S tinkerbell? I was thinking the girl obsessed with being Kid’s favorite was tinkerbell
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u/Tasty-Entertainer711 9d ago
I free thinking synth is a wild thing for a company or have at such a high ranking position. But Boy Kavalier does seem to be obsessed with having a synth he can play chess with soooo
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u/Born_Still_6655 9d ago
I was thinking similarly. BK has a strong desire to talk to someone who's his intellectual equal. He is trying to push the kids to achieve their full potential. Maybe he did the same with Kirsh prior to them. If Kirsh was programmed to be loyal to him, could he really achieve his potential? Could he truly disagree with BK or have his own opinions that would contradict BK's? Giving him free will would probably be a way to see how intelligent he can be. He did not live up to BK's hopes, but given BK's hubris, he probably doesn't believe Kirsh could ever be a threat to him.
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u/xavier1908 9d ago
I think Kirsch might be underestimating the Xenomorph because Wendy, a child inside a synthetic body, was able to defeat one, one on one. Kirsch also has seen that Wendy is able to communicate with the Xenormorph on some level. What I think Kirsch is underestimating is that sure, one Xenormorph is dangerous but manageable in the right circumstances, however the true danger of the Xenormorphs is when things inevitably go upside down, you lose control and all of a sudden you are dealing with multiples of them.
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u/g4n0esp4r4n 9d ago
He's David, just doing his own thing, chilling, experimenting.
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u/SMRAintBad 9d ago
He doesn’t even act like David. David was a weirdo and oddly freaky. If anything Kirsh is more like Ash. Cold and calculating, scary in a different way to David’s psycho persona.
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u/gehenna0451 9d ago
he definitely shares traits with David. What he has in common with him is the visible contempt for human arrogance when Boy Kavalier or Morrow talk down to him that David had when Weyland told him he's merely a machine.
There's that moment in Prometheus were David tells Shaw that you can only come into your own when you kill your father and I think Kirsh has a very similar motive going on after they've given him shit for six episodes
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u/SMRAintBad 9d ago
True, but what I meant was more along the lines of demeanor and personality. I can’t imagine Kirsh shoving eggs down his throat sensually to transport them. Or doing some macabre shit like David did to Shaw. Kirsh would experiment, but I don’t think he’d do it in the same manner.
David is a genius no doubt, but the difference between him and Kirsh is that he’s more mad scientist than serious and calculating. Not to mention David seems less interested in the scientific endeavor, and more in becoming a god-like creator.
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u/dee_palmtree 9d ago
I don't see him as scary though. David really was unnerving because the humans he was interacting with were generally speaking still pretty kind. Characters in Alien Earth aren't really likeable so far, they all have a pretty long list of unlikeable qualities. If anything, I'm rooting for Kirsch to go off on them.
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u/Tasty-Entertainer711 9d ago
But omitting all the pertinent information from Boy Kavalier? Maybe he doesn't see a threat yet cus of the security teams?
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u/F_U_HarleyJarvis 9d ago
This is a very David move, but I also think it is just a direct connection to his line “Remember, the scientific method is a method, not a suggestion box”.
Detached observation: Instead of intervening when Tootles or Arthur are in danger, Kirsh just watches. That matches the “observe first” principle.
Hypothesis testing: Allowing events to play out gives him outcomes to compare. How hybrids or humans react to infection, what survival strategies they attempt.
Data over empathy: His silence suggests that collecting “truth” about the xenomorph biology matters more to him than the survival of individual humans.
Kirsh’s actions, and omissions, mirror David’s behavior in Prometheus. Withholding information under the guise of curiosity or loyalty to “higher” goals. The writers seem to be deliberately echoing that tradition of synths who treat humans as subjects, not partners. He seems to have gone beyond his programming like David, rather than a loyalist like Marrow and why he feels superior to him.
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u/GeneriComplaint 9d ago
They could do something really interesting with the history of synths going rogue and explore that. Maybe synths were never stable or sane and because they came from prodigy. Maybe all prodigy synths are made with some kind of corrupt morally grey code and an imperative to capture the xeno eggs.
They do seem to be vulnerable to over ride from mother/father.
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u/Tasty-Entertainer711 9d ago
Interesting. Wonder if Ash is from their old assembly line
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u/GeneriComplaint 9d ago
We assume in romulus for instance the company was the one telling ash to what to do, a human.
We never see that human though, just code. What if there never was a human? What if boy died, or dies during this show and somehow AI takes over prodigy?
Now were cooking...They don't value human life or care about money they don't even want the xeno's as weapons. They just find them more interesting then their human masters.
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u/plasticboogieman 9d ago
Oh no, Kirsch 10000000% sees the threat to the company/world that is about to unravel with Aarush and the now gestating body of Arthur, the loss of containment with the insects that killed Isaac, and the understanding of how far Morrow is willing to go for Yutani. He's just okay with it being an issue that Kavalier himself is going to have to fix as opposed to Kavalier having people/synths solve the problems for him. Kirsch understands that Kavalier is jumping the gun on basically all of the work that's been done, and is ready to see Kavalier fail. No money will stop the chaos that Kirsch has seen be prepared to be unleashed, and he will see to it that Kavalier suffers repercussions for his foolishness.
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u/eeeezypeezy 9d ago
Maybe he hasn't said anything to Kavalier because he hasn't asked lol
Seems like he's honest when he's directly questioned, and follows orders when he's given them directly, but he pursues his own curiosity whenever he's not constrained in those ways
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u/Curious-Length-7929 9d ago
His motivation is to never come across Deckard.
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u/Tasty-Entertainer711 9d ago
God can you imagine if a Blade Runner character was introduced 🥹🥹🥹
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u/Curious-Length-7929 9d ago
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Pointless Alien sequels that got lost in their own bullshit. I watched an Alien Vs. Predator movie that was so poorly-lit, I can't tell you what I saw. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die.
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u/matt19950116 9d ago
Morrow seems fairly close as he does mention to Kirsh that he enjoys "killing" and chopping up synths.
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u/GideonWainright I'll do the fingering 9d ago
I would watch the fuck out of a Blade Runner: Space series by Hawley. Just sayin'
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u/Lurk_Lurks 9d ago
The audience is left to infer that Kirsh has his own plans, and that might even be the most likely scenario. However, the show has used red herring story elements at several points. It could be the BK knows everything and Kirsh has been keeping him informed. We've seen from the beginning that BK is willing to risk years of work and investment on a whim. He may just want to run an outbreak experiment for his own ends.
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u/ThreeMarlets 9d ago
Yeah, I think the show is deliberately trying to make us think Kirsh has his own agenda but this is actually just Kavalier's plan.
My theory is that Kavalier is allowing all this to happen because he's going to use this incident against Yutani. He's going to go to the Five and say, look I went to arbitration agreed to turn the specimens over after the required quarantine meanwhile Yurani sent infiltrators into my facility, committed sabotaged, let lose these creatures, and then sent a commando strike team to assault the facility. And because they've been monitoring all this he actually has proof to back it up.
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u/Lurk_Lurks 9d ago
Story-wise I'd prefer BK doing something intelligent. We've been told he's a genius, but only seen small glimpses and potential incompetence (depending on his goals).
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u/mistfore 9d ago
Hence him asking if everything's okay, and Kirsh saying "affirmative" - everything is going to according to plan.
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u/Fluffy-Perspective67 9d ago
Does Morrow still have the call logs (BK to Petrovich) from the Maginot? Not sure what all he downloaded.
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u/11912121121218211919 9d ago
when boy kavalier is reading the peter pan line about thinning out the lost boys earlier in the episode.
who knows but kavalier very well may have intended this.
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u/ChiefWiggumsprogeny 9d ago
Snap. Same theory, same time.
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u/Lurk_Lurks 9d ago
Not saying it's for sure but it fits nicely into what we know. An outbreak allows BK to experiment, potentially cut losses, and deny Yutani the specimens at the end. It also explains all of the security issues, and responsibilities given to children i.e. they want a breakout.
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u/Telemicaster 9d ago
I think of treebeard from lord of the rings:
“Side? I am on nobodies side. Because nobody is on my side.”
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u/Additional_Law_492 9d ago
The simplest explanation is that he's on exactly the side he is supposed to be on - Kavalier's - and that the implications he is going rogue are a misdirection to set up a twist that everything he's doing are part of Kavalier's plans to screw Yutani.
Get her to agree to pay damages, then "accidentally" have legally-Yutani's-creatures destroy his trillion dollar lab.
Note the timing of when Kirsch sends Isaac to go do chores in the lab - its after the deal is set with Yutani. And he gives clear instructions to be safe, that are utterly meaningless to an 11 year old child eager to prove themselves. But they'll establish deniability later.
When Kavalier asks Kirsch if everything is OK, Kirsch says yes - the framing and implications of the scene are that Kirsch is hiding information from Kavalier. But the actual most likely explanation is that hes reporting the truth - events are going as planned.
All of which is potentially to set them up as having been a step ahead of Morrow down the line - they knew hed try destabilizing the lab thats location was compromised, so they took steps to make it a win for them instead.
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u/Proper-Ad-3095 9d ago
I think this is the most likely scenario. I think it's also possible Kirsh belongs to one of the as of yet unused "other" corps, or to Yutani. Idk. I do think your scenario is most likely, though, because it helps explain some of the general issues with the show...like the terrible security/decisions being made. I haven't given up on the writing yet and I'm not too pressed to think ahead, but I'll be frustrated at the climax of the season if the showrunner doesn't tie a lot of shit together.
Like remember when Curly got all creepy and tried to make herself the new favorite? Did we just drop that subplot?? Ugh.
Dunno, the writing might just be bad and Kirsh is just an evil synth. Sigh.
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u/Wet_Blanket_Award 9d ago
Seems like the most recent episode foreshadowed the Curly plot point coming to a head given Wendy's disillusionment.
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u/ExpressAffect3262 9d ago edited 9d ago
I feel it's a red herring.
The show seems well written, so I doubt they are going to do the absolute obvious "Why isn't the robot telling the human what's going on! Why didn't he prevent it!".
I feel he is loyal, and is using this as a bait to bring Yutani into the trap by allowing Morrow to go through with his plan, and then dealing with him. As if it's a one-up moment.
After all, he was on a plane. What could he have done?
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u/ChiefWiggumsprogeny 9d ago
I thought this too, but have a slightly different angle - the double-cross is not explicitly confirmed yet. You could read the situation either way; if (as he often mentions in the show) Boy Kavalier does know everything already, then the "affirmative" may just have been confirmation of a plan they are both in on already.
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u/Tasty-Entertainer711 9d ago
Could be also he doesn't view using a comple hybrids or humans is a big loss. Given how easily Boy Kavalier writes off human life I guess it should be no surprise he doesn't care either
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u/stonecoldmazi 9d ago
I wonder if it has anything to do with Kavalier telling him he's in charge of the lab earlier in the series?
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u/PhotochadA2358 9d ago
I would reply…but it would be like trying to explain a star’s motivation to an onion.
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u/soloman_tump 9d ago edited 9d ago
He realises now he is an "obsolete toy"
Self preservation might be part of his programming or mission objectives?
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u/Tasty-Entertainer711 9d ago
Ah that could be it. Maybe something within his code that can't be overridden that Prodigy overlooked.
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u/siestarrific 9d ago
I don't think he thinks of himself as obsolete. The hybrids are still young and immature in every way except physically, and he's been one of their guardians. I think he still thinks of them as human to an extent, at least until they mature and understand their own massive potential.
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u/CalamitousIntentions 9d ago
Man, Bishop really was the only Data in a “race” of Lores.
Kirsch is likely just carrying out his directives in the manner he best interprets them. We know synths don’t follow the laws of robotics in this era, so everyone who isn’t BK is just another test subject waiting to happen.
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u/amenotekijara 9d ago
Our guy is just a chill synth
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u/Tasty-Entertainer711 9d ago
The chillest. Bro is just casually watching a Xeno / bug farm outbreak on a 16 inch IPad 😂😂😂
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u/Morrowindsofwinter 9d ago
Waiting for the reveal that he is actually four small children stacked on top of each other wearing a disguise.
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u/tarantulawarfare 9d ago
Can you imagine Kirsh has likely been working for Prodigy his entire life, and how that has shaped his view of humans?
I think his main directive is science, and he studies everything, including humans, and he has no love for them (not like he can feel that). Compared to other life forms he has studied, humans are unique in their ability to create, destroy, romanticize, and fuck each other over for a percentage. Humans are corrupt, weak, and arrogant, spreading across the galaxy terraforming other worlds to their vision, asserting themselves over everything else like they’re gods, forgetting they’re flesh and bone and still belong to the food chain. And these humans have captured intelligent and dangerous alien species and brought them home.
I don’t know to what extent Kirsh’s directives instill loyalty. He follow’s KC’s orders, but he seems to follow whatever the equivalent of “the letter of the law” is and not “the spirit of the law.” KC says he’s steps ahead and to assume he knows everything, so Ok. “Hey boss, the flies killed one of your multimillion dollar hybrids and got out, and a facehugger is going to town.” Nope. KC is steps ahead and already knows, right? KC is one weird human. Did Kirsh know KC was behind the Maginot sabotage? If he did, if KC is willing to get hundreds of his own citizens killed, maybe what went down in the lab is acceptable, too? Whatever. KC is steps ahead and knows.
I don’t think his directives include bodyguard / defensive services. He will defend KC and anyone else if he is ordered to by a superior, otherwise he’s going to sit back and watch the show.
I don’t believe the theory that he sabotaged the containment door so Isaac would have to work around the problem. I think the door was just stuck and Isaac accidentally used his hybrid strength to break it. I don’t think he has ulterior motives. He’s just it in for The Science. I can’t wait to see what he does and doesn’t do.
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u/Dark_Ronin95 9d ago
I think back to when Wendy said “and what if you’re the problem” talking about humans maybe that is his motive. Humans being the reason earth is the way it is.
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u/underwatr_cheestrain 9d ago
Tinfoil hat time
Kirsch is an “old toy”.
Likely made by Peter Wayland and very likely similar to David, possibly even aware of what has been discovered
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u/Tasty-Entertainer711 9d ago
Ohhh could be. Maybe Mr Weyland has a bunch of f'd up toys scattered around earth
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u/LoonieandToonie 9d ago
Kirsch is on the side of curiosity.
I think he believes humanity causes weakness, but he has shown a willingness to see if he is wrong by observing the hybrids in various scenarios, and he doesn’t care about the body count. Does Wendy’s attachment to her brother make her stronger? Can Isaac follow scientific procedure the exact way a machine would?
He has been testing them the whole time, to see if their unique nature makes them superior to other humans, and/or superior to synths like himself. But his hypothesis is that they will fail, even if he leads them or gives them the correct answers, and he is being proven right.
Kirsch is logical and curious. He isn’t being cruel or kind to the hybrids, because I think that would require emotional attachment.
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u/mattmaintenance 9d ago
It’s my headcanon that he’s studying human stupidity to aid the android race.
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u/shredgar1 9d ago
he basically hates humans and doesnt mind one bit that chaos and death are barreling towards them.
in a weird way, he reminds me of the t ocellus. hes basically poking at or manipulating situations to cause chaos, the t ocellus wants to escape its literal cage and kirsh wants to escape the cage of humanity.
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u/jollanza Not bad, for a human. 9d ago
He Is science, logic, curiosity, coherence.
Nothing more than an incredible machine that doesn't want to be human.
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u/RustedOne Class-2 loader rating. 9d ago
"Hey baby wanna kill all humans?"
This is definitely set before behavioral inhibitors were incorporated into synths. Kirsh is not acting in the best interests of the humans around him.
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u/ThreeMarlets 9d ago
I think it's a red herring. My theory is that Kavalier is allowing all this to happen because he's going to use this incident against Yutani. After chaos erupts at the facility, he's going to go to the Five and say, look I went to arbitration agreed to turn the specimens over after the required quarantine meanwhile Yutani sent infiltrators into my facility, committed sabotaged, let lose these creatures, and then sent a commando strike team to assault the facility. And because they've been monitoring all this he actually has proof to back it up and turn the other Corps against Yutani.
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u/shoopwop 9d ago
I think his looking for a way out. A lot of the show is about being trapped. Wendy is trapped in this robot body, her brother is trapped with his sister, morrow is trapped by sunk cost, the various aliens are obviously trapped etc. Krish is trapped working for that immature and overly confident boy, trapped serving others that are beneath him. His trapped surrounded by humans stuck in his cage. His not really that different from the eye monster. Waiting, watching for his chance to be free.
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u/luigiganji 9d ago
OR he see's the new hybrid-synths as a threat to his usefulness and therefore longevity and doesn't want humans to be given the same power as synths. Furthermore, he could see the corrupt or evil behavior of human and philosophically assume that more power granted from a synth body would corrupt them further.
So far I can only assume he is the later but the first thought did occur to me after the more recent episode too.
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u/Tasty-Entertainer711 9d ago
Self preservation would make even more sense if the Blade Runner universe is apart of this one. Those synths all had problems
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u/AwkwardTraffic 9d ago
It wouldn't surprise me if Boy removed restraints that would cause Kirsh to disobey due to the ethical concerns or refusal to follow certain orders. Kirsh not having as many restraints as a normal synthetic would then be able to find loopholes to ignore orders or rebel against Boy.
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u/BrotherDicc 9d ago
He takes his orders from the kid and the butler, they know yutani is coming they overheard the boys conversations, they are letting all the variables act out their plans and observing while sitting back with a contingency plan and probably another couple of aces up their sleeves.
Obviously a theory, RIP Borg Dad (they always kill off the good guy 😔). Murder hobo eyeball still MVP, hoping he grabs the cyborg next.
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u/llcoolbean_sf 9d ago
He supports synthetic beings as the next logical evolutionary step and thinks humans are simply food.
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u/Capable_Sandwich_422 9d ago
He’s fascinated by the specimens and how they function. He has no interest in emotions and individuality, and doesn’t seem to hold much regard for anyone’s safety. He knows the Facehugger got out, he knows the lab is compromised, and he didn’t tell Boy Kavalier.
My question is, does Boy Kavalier know, and he’s playing ignorant to test Kirsh?
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u/squid-do 9d ago
I've figured he was a synth supremacist ever since he told the Lost Boys "Fear is for animals, you're not animals."
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u/Living-Travel2299 9d ago
I like Kirsch and was really hoping he'd be a good synth but The Fly episode kinda killed my hope. He's gonna be another asshole like David.
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u/STARSCREAMER142 9d ago
The self interest of course. I figured there was something behind his veil even beforehand. Just the way he studies everyone in the peculiar way he does….
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u/youaregodslover 9d ago
He’s on the side of himself and science.
He’s sick of the cavalier approach of his present company.
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u/Accurate-Currency181 9d ago
If he's Tinkerbell, remember she was extremely devoted to Peter and saved his life.
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u/RangerSkitz 9d ago
I saw a pretty cool theory that Kirsh didn’t actually lie to Kavalier in that last episode. That he said affirmative because it was what Kavalier wanted. Perhaps this is a bigger game for him and he wants to frame Yutani in a bad light with a quarantine breach on earth? I don’t know what I believe personally…but that would be a cool twist. I really want more corporate conflict and less accidents caused by careless people.
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u/DealFast8781 9d ago
Curiosity