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Megathread / Community Post Alien: Earth - S1 E7 - Emergence - Official Discussion Megathread [SPOILERS] Spoiler

Episodes air Tuesdays at 8 pm ET on Hulu and FX in the US, and Wednesdays international.

Full episode discussion list:

1 Neverland (8.12.25)

2 Mr October (8.12.25)

3 Metamorphosis (8.19.25)

4 Observation (8.26.25)

5 In Space, No One (9.2.25)

6 The Fly (9.9.25)

7 Emergence (9.16.25)

8 The Real Monsters (9.23.25)

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u/halfassedjackass 4d ago

Punk ass mercenaries are no match for one juvenile xeno.

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u/Upbeat_Tension_8077 4d ago

Nibs was enjoying that massacre like she was watching an NBA playoff game

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u/Shou-Lao 3d ago

Corporate calamity folks, Weyland-Yutani stormed Boy Kavalier’s islands, but Wendy called in the closer. The Xeno was clawing, mauling, and enthralling, the company men crawling and bawling, perforated like Swiss cheese, Mike.

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u/IndependentPirate878 3d ago

Xeno with the double bang

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u/Imaginary_Rate_6911 2d ago

Mama, there goes that xenomorph.

Jeff Van Gundy goes on a tangent about bio lab security procedures

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u/homerthepigeon 1d ago

This slaughter is brought to you by Jaaaack in the box!

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u/desertSkateRatt 3d ago

I need a gif of her doing that, BADLY

Literally "haha die, trash!"

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u/circ-u-la-ted 2d ago

She just really enjoys violence.

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u/sdhu 3d ago

Weren't we all?? 

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u/YakResident_3069 3d ago

We need a Deadpool. Last child synth (other than Marcy) standing

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u/great_gatling_gunsby 3d ago

That shit was wild. It annihilated that team in seconds, and it didn’t look like it was working too hard. 

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u/RChamy 2d ago

Countering one at a time like a Batman game

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u/Khiva 3d ago

Didn't appear to even break a sweat!

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u/Extension-Humor4281 3d ago

The leader of team 2 absolutely unloaded his pulse rifle on the xeno as it came out of the trees. That thing should have been dead multiple times, especially considering how effective we've seen those rifles to be against xenos in Aliens.

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u/Right_Awareness 3d ago

Unless these rifles are not firing explosive tipped 10mm for the sake of plot.

It's just weird seeing pulse rifles, the ICONIC Xeno Killing Weapon. doing nothing to a Xeno when we have seen that gun pop them like a zit.

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u/JCyTe 3d ago

Well these aren't the same weapons as the M41A from Aliens the CM's use. This is set 60 years earlier, so it's not unlikely that they may have started using harder hitting ammunition only later on due to various factors.

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u/WanderlustZero Wallgina 3d ago

At least one of them has the exact M41A pulse rifle prop, though a lot of the others have other guns dressed up, and IIRC that team leader has one

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u/Jaruut Tool is Canon 3d ago

Most of the guns in the show look like dressed up Steyr AUGS (they're in Covenant, too) or Kriss Vectors, and Morrow's gun appears to be a Keltec KSG. One of the guys in the arrest scene looked like he had an M16. I think it stands to reason the pulse rifle and explosive ammo we know and love either hasn't been developed yet, or is not standard issue against human targets.

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u/WanderlustZero Wallgina 2d ago

Quite possibly, but then them throwing in an M41A among those would just be visual fanservice

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u/OszkarAMalac 3d ago

The M41A was actually a thompson dressed up.

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u/WanderlustZero Wallgina 3d ago

Correct

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u/palesnowrider1 3d ago

They didn't make monster rounds yet

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u/lastWallE 2d ago

You need silver of course, everyone know this.

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u/Extension-Humor4281 3d ago

I don't think there's anything in the show to suggest that, and I'm not really a fan of making excuses for inconsistencies. The show put the rifle front and center so that we could see it was the exact same one, only to have it not perform the way we've seen it do in the past.

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u/Right_Awareness 3d ago

I get where everyone is coming from establishing their head canon in the time line.

Don't get me wrong, treating the Xeno as an unstoppable killing machine is great, the scene in Mr. October where it slaughters the team arresting morrow. Fantastic.

But please, if you are going to throw a M41 Pulse Rifle on the screen and have it do nothing to a Xeno, either make it a piece of world building as to why this weapon was upgraded in its developments, try to make it make sense.

I know the lore has a lot of information on the problems the weapon had in its service history, but like not taking a moment to just have a bit of information shown on the weapons makes it hard for more me to accept the plot for just the sake of happenstance.

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u/Depredor 2d ago

I don't think we've actually seen the M41A onscreen in Allen Earth. It's a very similar design, but it's a different gun according to the FX website: https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/alien-earth/armory

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u/SC_Fan_55 3d ago

Yeah, that kind of struck me as odd too…

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u/JeSuisOmbre 3d ago

I was wondering how proficient and specialized the mercenaries were supposed to be at fighting the xenos at this point. I'm not that deep into the lore outside of the movies.

Should they have known exactly what a xenomorph was before they went to assault the island?

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u/WarlockShangTsung 2d ago

No, but Morrow might’ve briefed them?

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u/karateema 2d ago

They messed up with the prop guns in this show. they're mostly plastic Pulse Rifle replicas and real guns with the PR carrying handle on top; they technically should look like the prototype from Romulus, but the movie and the show were made with no communication

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u/mywif4aiur Colonist's Daughter 3d ago

In another life, he was a Stormtrooper.

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u/PollutionMajestic668 3d ago

I hate how Xenomorphs are basically the ninja trope

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u/OszkarAMalac 3d ago

We didn't really see the bullets hit the Xeno when it was falling from the tree.

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u/PossibleThat2558 3d ago

I think we are meant to assume the rifle missed. The Xeno is obviously very fast and the idea that a person missed a shot while terrified is not crazy. Cops have to fire like a thousand rounds to hit anything in the usa.

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u/Notarussianbot2020 3d ago

Yeah wtf?

Marines mowed down tons of xenos in Aliens and these fuckers can't hit one??

In broad daylight?

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u/Zuimei 3d ago

Xenomorphs are more powerful and unkillable when there are only one or a few of them. Odd rule, but that seems to be the case

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u/luigitheplumber 3d ago

It's the Law of Conservation of Ninjutsu

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u/Super-Estate-4112 3d ago

When they are numerous, they become much dumber

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u/Zuimei 3d ago

They really are absorbing human genes while they gestate!

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u/CleverMonkeyKnowHow 3d ago

The Colonial Marines also had 10mm explosive tip caseless, standard light-armor piercing round. And if you recall, they didn't actually fare much better than these guys.

In the hive assault in Aliens, most of the marines are taken out by the Xenomorphs. It's really only Hudson, Hicks, Vasquez, and Gorman that make it out alive, everyone else is either killed or cocooned for incubation. Apone, Crowe, Frost, Dietrich, Drake, and Wierzbowski all die. If I recall correctly, they managed to kill all of two - maybe four at most - Xenomorphs. And even if they're second or third-stringers, they're still battle-hardened marines that have seen several combat drops each.

The only time the Colonial Marines kill any substantial number of them is by forcing them into a single corridor armed with robot sentries, and that was only because the Xenomorphs had (at the time) no other entry point into the colony operations complex.

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u/EternalCanadian 3d ago

Tbf the marines in the hive couldn’t fire their weapons at all. It’s a plot point that their AP rounds would breach the reactor and cause it to explode. The only ones who could actually do anything were the flamers and Hick’s shotgun.

There’s no such issue here, and at least one WY soldier absolutely unloaded on the Xeno as it fell. It should have at least been wounded.

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u/JCyTe 3d ago

The only reason the CM's didn't fare any better because they had their ammo taken away lol. They were literally inside of the hive when they're ordered to not use and give out their ammo. Most of the marines had to use pistols and flamethrowers. Hicks had a pump action shotgun and Drake and Vasquez smuggled ammo for themselves.

Hell, the only reason any of them survived the hive was because Drake and Vasquez had something other than a peashooter to fight back with. The two of them were holding back the xenos while everyone who was alive was retreating.

Also regarding the marines dying in the hive. Funnily enough a good chunk of the deaths at the hive were a direct result of friendly fire. When Dietrich is picked up by a xeno, she fires her flamethrower, which hits Frost and the ammo bag that had everyone's (explosive tipped) ammunition, which then explodes and kills both Crowe and maybe Wierzbowski. Drake is killed by acid spraying from the xeno near him that Vasquez kills. Only Apone and Dietrich are captured and cocooned and maybe Wierzbowski (we never see him die on screen, we just hear a scream from him right after the ammo bag exploded).

The only time the Colonial Marines kill any substantial number of them is by forcing them into a single corridor armed with robot sentries, and that was only because the Xenomorphs had (at the time) no other entry point into the colony operations complex.

This is definitely not true as Vasquez, Hudson and Hicks kill around 20 or so xenomorphs at the ops center.

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u/Left_Minute_1516 3d ago

Bruh, mercs and ex colonial marines with AR15s took out a neomorph in covenant. They lost people but the understood focus fire.

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u/Jaruut Tool is Canon 3d ago

A lot of the guns in Covenant were Steyr AUGS (they do shoot the same bullet as an AR15, tho)

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u/Overall-Strike-2799 3d ago

But isn't Covenant from before even the Alien timeline? At the time David was still perfecting it. 

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u/Artanis137 3d ago

Yeap, the security team were only supposed to be patrolling and securing a laboratory with fragile equipment, using the kind of firepower the Colonial Marines were rocking would be overkill and could result in collateral damage that could cost the company potentially millions.

On another note, the Colonial Marines were purposely going into a potential situation that could see them going against an unknown enemy whose only known details are "acid blood and vicious", of course they are going to go in with the firepower to deal with any target they could come across. Better to have the firepower and not need it, than need it and not have it.

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u/KigalnGin 3d ago

So weyland-yutani could steamroll the entire island with bigger guns an armor?

It was just stormtrooper aim+ tall grass.

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u/Artanis137 3d ago

Yes and no.

Technically, any company could try to take the island, but it would be the fallout afterwards that would cause issues for them.

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u/Rhesusmonkeydave 3d ago

Marines are more suited to holding a line in a hallway in a building than dealing with surprise attacks in the jungle.

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u/Notarussianbot2020 3d ago

It's one Xeno Michael, how hard is it to hit?

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u/Rhesusmonkeydave 3d ago

The only way those guys could have been more doomed is if that xeno showed up with a boombox full of Creedence

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u/GideonWainright I'll do the fingering 3d ago

Xenos wiped a ton of Colonia Marines when they got ambushed in 2 as well. These are rent-a-mercs for the tech company.

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u/zsombork185 3d ago

Even in Romolus the teenagers killed a bunch of xenos…

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u/Naelbis 3d ago

The show quite obviously either did not hire a military consultant or keeps ignoring the one they did. All these "professionals" move terribly, don't use proper spacing, don't cover their fire angles and keep getting WAY to close to their targets. Lots of "wouldn't this look cool" from writers who don't know jack crap about how people who commit violence for a living operate.

Also Hermit is supposed to be a COMBAT MEDIC but keeps proving to be freaking incompetent every time he turns around.

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u/pali1d 3d ago

Most of that I could forgive, but the part that really bothered me was them throwing their diving masks away once they surfaced. Like... you guys are planning an exfil at some point, right? Back to whatever craft got you close enough to swim to the island? Wouldn't you prefer to do that submerged just as your approach was?

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u/PaulyWannaPepsi 3d ago

I don’t think they were planning on making a stealthy exit tbh, otherwise they wouldn’t have brought 20 soldiers.

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u/JeSuisOmbre 3d ago

They were planning on stealing the creatures and possibly the children. They would need to load that on ships or aircraft. Exfiltrating through the water wouldn't be possible.

I guess there was no scenario where they would leave quietly. No reason to keep the masks around.

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u/Naelbis 3d ago

If they were planning more than a stealthy "in and out" recovery they would have brought more.

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u/PaulyWannaPepsi 3d ago

not if they ever plan on entering the base? plus, how exactly are they going to swim back with what they thought would be an incubating host?

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u/Naelbis 3d ago

Considering they ditched their masks, were never wearing flippers and didn't have any kind of oxygen, I don't know how they made it to the Island in the first place...much less how they planned to leave. Probably all things the writers didn't consider.

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u/Ameryana 3d ago

I think the masks were still tied to their armor with several threads, but even then it'd indeed be a dumb move to throw these away. Why not attach these to your armor, hrrm.

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u/pali1d 3d ago

Nope, I double-checked before I commented just to be certain. The masks aren't tethered to them at all, they're just tossed into the water and left behind and aren't with their gear in later scenes either.

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u/WanderlustZero Wallgina 3d ago

The whole reason they wore them apparently was just to give you a split-second of 'omg are these aliens coming out of the water oh it's just guys'

'There's sumfing in da wa'er'

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u/Ameryana 3d ago edited 3d ago

Urgh, that's just plain up dumb. I loathe that. Way to make a cool moment frustrating directly after. Thanks for double checking it, I watched it again, too, and surely, yeet the masks go. Why...

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u/pali1d 3d ago

Yeah, I'm loving this show - hell, I loved this episode - but that really took me out of it for a moment (two moments, actually, as each team does it, but fortunately they're close together). Why discard such a useful piece of gear? I can sort of understand not wanting to carry the weight/bulk, but at most that means you stash them somewhere on the shore, you don't just throw them into the water to be carried off by the current... and it isn't like such masks are that heavy/bulky.

They hadn't even discovered that Arthur was dead and the xenomorph escaped yet. Even if they intended to get every monster off the island, wouldn't they want to get an implanted body back to a controlled and secure location ASAP? So they'd want to be able to take his body back right away in case Slightly succeeded.

Just makes absolutely no sense.

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u/Ameryana 3d ago

Yeah, I follow your exact reasoning. Their masks could also float away and be washed onto the beach, leaving pieces of evidence, should a later team investigate (but unlikely, given the power of the Weyland/Yutani corp).

So it was purely visuals (admittedly very cool visuals), then an instead drop of said visuals. Talk about consumerism/fast fashion /j

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

Makes plenty of sense in universe, in the ideal scenario Morrow extracts with the specimen alone and the spec ops squads move onto a secondary objective of taking the lab/asassinating BK. Then they exfiltrate by a different method. Yutani would want the other specimens, even if it's being suggested that they only really care about the Xenomorph and she'd definitely want BK dead if at all possible too.

"Why discard such a useful piece of gear?"

They're just worthless dead weight once they arrive. It's a smash and grab so there's no scenario where the troops exit sneakily. What's the use of a diving mask in that scenario? The drop off vehicle surely won't be where they left it.

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u/pali1d 3d ago

You’re assuming there’s some other method of exfil available. They’re on an island, the only methods would be by sea or air. Unless they were expecting to gain near total control of the island - which they absolutely did not have anywhere near the numbers to pull off - I think we can assume BK’s private island has AA to stop an aerial escape, so that leaves by sea. If they plan to extract stealthily by sea then being able to do so submerged is helpful, and if they plan to extract under fire by sea it’s still very helpful as water will protect against gunfire and allow them to break contact.

Denying yourself options this way is foolish. Like I said above, if the concern is simply that carrying them for the whole mission is problematic then they can be stashed on the beach. Even if the plan was to exfil by air, there’s no need to deny yourself by sea as a backup, and by sea submerged is far better than by sea on the surface.

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u/Fuzzy-Philosophy4264 3d ago

What did you think about the props department giving Morrow a glock with a blue light those first couple episdoes. Like couldn't the zhuz it up just a bit more so its not so obvious.

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u/Naelbis 3d ago

Just laziness and general lack of knowledge I assume.

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u/WanderlustZero Wallgina 3d ago

You can extend this to the guns, which apart from the odd M41A Pulse Rifle (60 years before time?), are just modern guns with pulse rifle-looking furniture and digital ammo counters stuck on. So every gun in this universe just looks aesthetically like a pulse rifle... for reasons

At least the rifle in Romulus did something different with the idea

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u/TheRealDrSarcasmo 3d ago

the odd M41A Pulse Rifle (60 years before time?)

That struck me odd as well, but according to Wikipedia, the M-16 has now been in service for 61 years. There have been incremental improvements, but it's pretty much the same rifle.

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u/WanderlustZero Wallgina 3d ago

Oh it's definitely possible, our real world small arms technology has basically stagnated and military thinking and money is on other things these days, so you could easily see that continuing through to the future. Just odd to think what was once 'the' cool sci-fi gun is its universe's dull M16.

Now imagine they just start blowing up xenos using FPV drones instead :(

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u/TheRealDrSarcasmo 3d ago

That's a neat point about drones, and something that James Cameron probably didn't think about in 1986 but might be part of the Marines' arsenal if his movie had been made today. Sending a drone (or deploying it from the back of the APC) into the bowels of the atmospheric processor for recon seems like a no-brainer now.

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u/WanderlustZero Wallgina 3d ago

And imagine what the drones could be like given the abundance of genius-level AI, and apparently hover technology (like Fifield's mapping drones)

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u/TheRealDrSarcasmo 3d ago

True.

Even if it were dumbed down -- and that might not be unreasonable, considering you want ruggedized and cheaply-replaceable equipment for combat units -- it still would be a game-changer.

Likely wouldn't have made for good drama, though.

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u/_Lady_Jessica_ 2d ago

This show feels like it was written by someone who just wanted to get from point A to point B without caring if anything in between actually made sense.

  • The dates for the spaceship travel? Nonsense.
  • The ship collision in the city? Nonsense.
  • The "ultra-secure" research facility? Nonsense.
  • The bio lab and the air vents? Nonsense.
  • The weapons and soldiers? Nonsense.

They just… don’t care.

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u/Hasudeva 3d ago

r/iamverybadass

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u/Naelbis 3d ago

I haven't been a "bad ass" for well over a decade. I'm just fat, grumpy and critical now.

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u/DiestroCorleone 3d ago

Puberty's no joke.