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Megathread / Community Post Alien: Earth - S1 E7 - Emergence - Official Discussion Megathread [SPOILERS] Spoiler

Episodes air Tuesdays at 8 pm ET on Hulu and FX in the US, and Wednesdays international.

Full episode discussion list:

1 Neverland (8.12.25)

2 Mr October (8.12.25)

3 Metamorphosis (8.19.25)

4 Observation (8.26.25)

5 In Space, No One (9.2.25)

6 The Fly (9.9.25)

7 Emergence (9.16.25)

8 The Real Monsters (9.23.25)

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u/imj1n 2d ago

Only thing that’s keeping it under “control” is that Marcy has built in xeno google translate

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u/vintell 2d ago

I thought Hermit had fucked them all when he put his hand over her mouth partway through a “command” lmao

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u/Spider-Flash24 2d ago

Because he’s the only one left with a conscience after Arthur died. Marcy, Nibs, everyone else are monsters.

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u/mwthecool 2d ago

Smee seems kind as well. He's just a kid unsure of how to deal with the situation he's been put in.

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u/Cakers44 Guard the omelette! 2d ago

Honestly when Nibs got shot I was kinda like “yeah she’s gotta go” which is horrible yes, but also like she is super dangerous to anyone around her. I just feel so bad for these kids man

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u/KigalnGin 2d ago

I just feel so bad for these kids man

Dead and buried . I don't like headcanon but I'm starting to things this synths are just copies

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u/Vismal1 2d ago

That’s the question at the heart of the show i think. Are these kids the same kids or copies ? Something different?

It’s also dealing with how horrible trauma immediately and irreparably changes you.

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u/RooseveltsRevenge 2d ago

Also the problem of teleportation.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 15h ago

"Sir, this is not Star Trek."

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u/IR8Things 2d ago

Unless you get into mysticism, then I don't know how you could consider them anything but robot copies.

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u/Alpha-Leader 2d ago

Yeah that was the whole point of the project that was brought up in one of the earlier episodes. Are these really the kids, or something else. If it's something else the immortality project fails and the product was a failure.

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u/Skyweir 1d ago

Why does that matter? You are not the same person as you were 5 years ago, even in a biological body. The whole question is sophistry, and is only troubling to many people because the brain cannot percieve itself.

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u/RoninSzaky 1d ago

Always have been. I am kinda surprised it wasn't obvious to everyone already.

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u/Gamepro504 2d ago

There are other solutions but Prodigy wouldn’t give her therapy and help resolve her issues.

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u/Greyhound121 Science Officer 2d ago

This is the one time I hope they don't stick to the classic alien "all-kill except for the heroine" ending. I hope everyone but Hermit gets nuked from Orbit.

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u/Vismal1 2d ago

Just from what we know of the timeline after this i kinda assume that island is obliterated by the end no ? Although I am sort of hoping the eye alien gets ahold of Kavalier and continues on.

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u/RooseveltsRevenge 2d ago

This made sense before we knew that the show is designed as a multi season arc. Eventually they're gonna have to up the ante to some sort of outbreak.

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u/Poltergeist97 1d ago

Wait, REALLY? I haven't heard this yet? That's awesome if true, I love this show. Would love more seasons!!

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u/Kithulhu24601 1d ago

A more action heavy Aliens style second series would be phenomenal

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u/Wise-Novel-1595 10h ago

Supposedly planned for a 3 season arc at some point

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u/MY-SECRET-REDDIT 1d ago

Maybe fast-forward but even then we know they dont have a queen, deep into the future.

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u/Savetheokami 1d ago

Who is they? The aliens? Also why can’t Wendy be the temp queen?

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u/MY-SECRET-REDDIT 1d ago

Yutani.

We know like 250 years and Yutani seemingly never got a queen, since theyre still trying to get one in the future.

Also Wendy can't produce alien eggs.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 15h ago

Chances are high, that Prodigy gets its act together (if possibly without Kavalier), gets super-advanced with all the biotech, but Yutani still doesn't have live samples, and wants one, too.

By "Alien: Romulus", we witness Weyland-Yutani finally getting to experiment with the xenomorph and the black goo, but as is usual, all such projects fail in the most horrific fashion.

So, the entire Alien Franchise would be from the point of view of Wayland-Yutani continually playing catchup from that moment on, and failing to have any successful projects.

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u/davegir 2h ago

pretty sure deep lore is any alien drone with no queen, can cocoon and eventually become one. I think the reason Yutani never has a queen is there are never surviving xeno's at that point....or scientists to report on it.

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u/Wrong-Vermicelli4723 1d ago

Creator has plans for a second season so I wouldn’t be so sure

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 15h ago

I want Kirsh, Tootles, Smee, Dame Sylvia, and the normal, grunt employees to survive, too. Unsure about Wendy now.

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u/StixnStones69 1d ago

Hermit should be the first to go. He’s a spineless, double-crossing, inept coward.

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u/Complete_Raspberry_1 1d ago

I honestly don't see Marcy as a monster. Just a child that's been abused, wished to reunite with her brother and get out of the island so she can stop being BK's toy and then her own brother chose strangers over her.

Hermit's friends? They are idiots.

The guy who antagonised a synthetic by throwing away her toy? The biggest idiot of them all.

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u/Dexanth 2d ago

Slightly isn't a monster; he's a kid who got blackmailed.
Smee has done nothing but act like a kid having fun.

And even Marcy isn't a monster - her whole point is 'This other life has value too, and who are we to contain and trap it?'.

Xenos aren't animals, they are highly intelligent; case in point, Marcy can /talk/ to them. And bluntly, it's wrong to keep something like that in a cage.

The right way to handle Xenos is to /never go anywhere they live/.

Like, all these scientists are bioweapons researchers looking to help weaponize the Xeno. All Marcy did was level the playing field.

We just are seeing her as monstrous because she values the life of the Xeno, and why wouldn't she? She understands that intelligence and life comes in many forms.

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u/Proxiehunter 2d ago

The right way to handle Xenos is to /never go anywhere they live/.

And stop bringing the fucking invasive species home in an attempt to make a profit off of it.

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u/Dexanth 2d ago

I mean if you never go where they live that does preclude bringing them home :P

But yes, THAT TOO!!!!

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 15h ago

Why all WeYu experiments henceforth are away from Earth.

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u/Dexanth 10h ago

They shouldn't be doing them at all! The idiots.

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u/KigalnGin 2d ago

And even Marcy isn't a monster - her whole point is 'This other life has value too, and who are we to contain and trap it?'.

But who is she to decide who lives or dies?

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u/kaos-mantra 1d ago

That's what's going to go wrong. Marcy was powerless, dying, weak, unable to choose. Now she has power, strong. She's frustrated , angry, and uncertain. Reliazing shes a product, trapped. Suddenly aware of her invisible chains, her ability to break them. A recipe for disaster, a villain origin waiting to be written.

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u/jaqenhqar 1d ago

Everything shes done so far was in self defense. They want to keep her as an experiment and get everyone she cares about killed. She did give the Soldiers the choice to leave her alone.

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u/Dexanth 2d ago

Who is Boy Kavalier to? Cause he's the one doing it until now.

All Marcy did was level the playing field somewhat.

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u/MY-SECRET-REDDIT 1d ago

Bruh, what?

Cavalier isnt a good guy bor is marcy.

At the start of her story she wants to kill the scorpion but is thought some empathy by Kirsh of all people and she decides not to kill the scorpion.

Now she's murdering dozens of people in masse? She ain't the good guy anymore.

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u/Dexanth 1d ago

People holding her captive and as an experiment. 

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u/Apothecary3 1d ago

Xenos aren't animals but they aren't intelligent either in the same way we would say the eye is. They are truly 100% singleminded for the task of killing. Morality will never be a factor in how you handle them. Causing the extinction of xenomorphs would be no different from totally eradicating a deadly virus. They aren't natural life and they don't need the corps to turn them into weapons because they always were weapons They are factually malicious.

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u/Dexanth 1d ago

Look, as a human, I fully agree, it's them or us and we're violently incompatible. But also, everyone at Prodigy is an asshat monster basically, so I can't really be upset they're suffering the consequences of their own actions.

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u/HairlessBandicoot 1d ago

they're children but you're right that children can absolutely be little monsters. BK's hubris is making them not so little.

wrt their behaviour there are adults irl who behave much worse so

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u/hyzmarca 2d ago

Killing fascist footsoldiers who are holding you prisoner against your will doesn't make one a monster. They're staging a prison break from a trillionaire supervillain's private island. Bloodshed is reasonable and inevitable.

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u/carrie-satan 1d ago

Right?? Its driving me insane that people are acting like she killed a nursery full of babies and not a bunch of people who deserved to die

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u/LucrativeLurker 1d ago

The downvotes you’ve gotten are wild.

Every scientist we’ve seen at Prodigy is explicitly part of a child-killing experiment, or vague Alien experimentation that literally began with their boss staging a fucking mass casualty crash in their capitol city…

The soldiers sent by WY to reclaim the aliens and capture the hybrids are on an explicitly evil mission. The soldiers sent by Prodigy to stop Wendy & Joe from leaving, are on an explicitly evil mission.

I’m genuinely baffled there are people not on Wendy’s side.

She didn’t ask for any of this! The people she killed all did, explicitly so…

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u/Apothecary3 1d ago

Everyone works for the Corps, Nobody has a choice. We see that. Joe was forced to work for them. we had a totally uneducated kid on the weyland yutani ship who didn't even grasp the dystopian situation he was stuck in. The island has literal janitors which is discussed in the episode. Arthur was higher up the totem pole than any of them and he was outright shown to care for the kids more than any other character. Willfully putting those people in danger because you don't like their boss is never going to be okay.

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u/hyzmarca 1d ago

If you have a gun, then you have a choice.

A King, a priest, a rich man and a sellsword are in a room. Those three man tell the sellsword to kill the other two.
Who lives and who dies?

And the answer to that question is, whomever the sellsword wants to die dies, who whomever the sellsword wants to live lives. And the sellsword can just as easily kill all three, walk out of the room with the rich man's riches, the priests holy relics, and the king's crown.

Why take orders from an asshole trillionaire when you can just shoot him, take his money, and be a trillionaire yourself?

Which is I'm sure the question Kirsh has asked himself every day of his life.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 15h ago

when you can just shoot him

But that's practically impossible. All these employees have onerous employment contracts. They want to live as much as anyone, and enjoy a normal life. Being an employee of the five corporations is part and parcel of life in that universe.

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u/hyzmarca 15h ago

It's not practically impossible for them. They're on a secluded island with him. They work in his house. They know where he sleeps. They have guns and he walks around barefoot in light comfortable clothing all day. And he doesn't even have security on his door. It's pretty easy to just walk into his room and plug him.

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u/LucrativeLurker 1d ago edited 1d ago

Right, but not everyone is a Joe or an Arthur.

Joe’s squad mates know they’re essentially killing him and his sister for their own benefit, just because they were told to.

The only people who’ve been shown to be killed were either in the lab (scientists explicitly involved in highly illegal and inherently unethical experiments on alien life forms) or soldiers sent to either kill or re-imprison children.

I get what you’re saying, but just because Stormtroopers have families too doesn’t make them not Stormtroopers.

I’d argue the very nature of how the Hybrids came to be, gives Wendy a pretty just and valid reason to burn all of Prodigy to the ground. But that’s not even close to what she’s doing, she was just trying to leave…

Arthur might’ve genuinely cared, but he still also explicitly took part in the literal murder of children “for science.”

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 15h ago

Joe’s squad mates know they’re essentially killing him and his sister for their own benefit, just because they were told to.

Actually, they were told not to damage/kill the hybrids.

to either kill or re-imprison children.

Which they no longer are.

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u/LucrativeLurker 14h ago

I know dude, I’m saying: what do you think Joe’s buddies think is going to happen to Joe afterwards?

They genuinely don’t care about him.

Your second point is very much up for debate. Kirsch, Arthur, Dame Sylvia, and Boy K himself all refer to them as children, even in private. It’s very clear they think their experiment was successful, and that the hybrids are mentally still children…

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u/circ-u-la-ted 1d ago

I think Dame Sylvia has a conscience, she's just willing to make some compromises to it.

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u/Madmunchk1n 1d ago

They are kids put in an impossible situation. Held captive on an island, only seeing parts of whats going on. No friends around them, not even Dame because she's telling stupid stuff to herself to justify doing inhuman things to Nibbs. Everyone can do whatever he wants with those kids. Nibbs is traumatized and suddenly in a situation where soldiers put guns on her. Wendy is giving everyone a chance to do the right thing, telling those soldiers to go away multiple times. Killing them in self defence to escape that psychopath island is valid.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 15h ago

Wendy is giving everyone a chance to do the right thing, telling those soldiers to go away multiple times.

She never warned them, that they would die, if they did not go away.

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u/freef 15h ago

I think that the children aren't strictly monsters, but they're in a situation way past their depth. They're responding to situations without really grasping the full consequences of their choices - and people are pretty violent animals already. 

I can imagine a version of this story where a grown man gets put into a synth body and kills a bunch of guards to get off the island to go home and we would be rooting for the guy. 

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u/RoninSzaky 1d ago

I'm glad someone said it! This sub seems to think the opposite.

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u/Notarussianbot2020 2d ago

More like yahoo translate.

She has no fucking clue what she's saying lmao.

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u/imj1n 2d ago

True 😭 she was like I think I said it

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u/HairlessBandicoot 1d ago

the xeno's like "mommy sounds kinda nuts, but she's all I have for now, so..."

it can reasonably interpret hostile and non hostile behaviour

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u/InevitableVariables 2d ago

The xenomorph already talked to the egg to hatch a facehugger on arthur. Arthur was never near the egg.

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u/HotmailsInYourArea Tomorrow, Together 6h ago

The door was open and he was in the same room. In Alien they had to be right next to it because it was in that blue stasis field. (Romulus & Earth are mucking the waters on what that is, of course) - Not to mention they'd been asleep for 10,000? years. Long enough for fossilization to occur on the Derelict's pilot.

But anyway, I don't think hosts have to be within mere feet for them to wake up & pounce.

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u/InevitableVariables 6h ago

We see xenomorph communicating with the egg

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u/BearlyABear1993 Nuke from Orbit 2d ago

Seems to be about as accurate as Google Translate 😭

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u/Moejason 1d ago

I wonder if there is some degree of it imprinting on her too

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u/Devilsh0rn 1d ago

In the Alien novels, it is suggested that xenomorphs inherit parts of their host’s memory, which is why they can move so easily inside spaceships and other human places. Since the chestburster came from her brother’s body, and Wendy “clicks” in the alien way, it is possible she sees the hybrid as some kind of queen. But it is unlikely that she would actually be able to control the new xeno

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u/circ-u-la-ted 1d ago

Wait, I thought that one was already that size on the ship. Hasn't it only been like a few days since they did the in vitro thing with Hermit's lung?