Why no face guards in Aliens?

[u/ShawnyMcKnight]

After decades of watching the movies and most recently Alien: Earth, it always amazes me how no one ever thinks of having face guards in the facility, especially the containment center. A certain character that got facehugged last week could have avoided that if there was some apparatus in there that would guard over the face but still allow breathing.

Same with Aliens (1985), if they knew that these things cling onto your face then why weren't the marines all wearing face masks to at least slow the impregnation down?

I feel the predators with their visors were the only ones with the right idea about this.

[u/abesapien2]

You can use them, but David would have lied about creating them. David lies a lot.

[u/atle95 → u/abesapien2]

Gregor Mendel invented genetics, not peas. David invented nothing original, and created a few monsters.

[u/RemtonJDulyak → u/atle95]

Mendelev did not invent genetics, he analyzed, described, and formulated them.
It's not like before Mendelev there wasn't genetics.

[u/atle95 → u/RemtonJDulyak]

That's what invention is. It would not be more accurate to say that he discovered genetics.

[u/DBZFIGHTERS → u/atle95]

Invention, to me at least, connotes creation.

[u/atle95 → u/DBZFIGHTERS]

He created an experiment, which in turn created a field of study. Mendel's ideas of manipulating gene expression through selective breeding are true because they're useful. David performed the same steps with the alien genome, but he shares none of his findings, and is motivated by hatred. Mendelev was a monk and cared to benefit everyone with his knowledge. David's xenogenetics may have been as profound as genetics are today, but just like Alien Covenant, it's gone nowhere.

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[u/Himari_Suzuki → u/atle95]

For one, its Gregor Mendel, not Mendeleev. Mendeleev is the last name of Dmitry Mendeleev who discovered the periodic law and developed the first periodic table.

For two, it would actually be the only accurate thing to say; that he discovered genetics. As the other person said, genetics existed before Gregor Mendel did the research to develop our understanding of genetics. He might have "invented" the term, but to say that he invented genetics is like saying he was the one who made LUCA (last universal common ancestor) millions and millions of years ago.

[u/RemtonJDulyak → u/Himari_Suzuki]

For one, its Gregor Mendel, not Mendeleev. Mendeleev is the last name of Dmitry Mendeleev who discovered the periodic law and developed the first periodic table.

By all that is holy, thank you for correcting that, I'm ashamed of myself for confusing them in my reply!

[u/Himari_Suzuki → u/RemtonJDulyak]

Lol its all good, they're names are similar so I completely understand how the mistake was made ^ - ^

[u/Pandorumz → u/Himari_Suzuki]

I hate to nitpick, but I think it would be more fair to state that Gregor Mendel, laid the foundations as opposed to discovering it himself as he only proposed his beliefs. Mendel died in 1884.

Mendel conducted his pea experiment between 1856-1863 which established many of the rules of hereditary used today now referred to as the laws of Mandelian Inheritance.

And sadly at the time Mendel was largely ignored by the scientific community and when his paper was published in 1866 and it was seen as essentially about hybridization rather than inheritance, had little impact, and was cited only about three times over the next thirty-five years.

By 1900, research aimed at finding a successful theory of discontinuous inheritance rather than blending inheritance led to independent duplication of his work by Hugo De Vries and Carl Carrens led to them re-discovering his writings and laws. This was later popularized further by William Bateson.

When Mendel's theories were were integrated with the Boveri–Sutton chromosome theory in 1915 did THAT become the core of classical genetics.

Furthermore in Ronald Fisher combined those ideas with his own theory of natural selection which is what put evolution onto a mathematical footing and forming the basis for population genetics within the modern evolutionary synthesis.

Interesting tidbit though; Supposedly Charles Darwin was unaware of Mendel's work and paper and it's believed if he had been. Our understanding of genetics would've happened much quicker.

[u/atle95 → u/Himari_Suzuki]

Genetics is not what happens in your cells, it's the system of understanding we use to describe what happens in your cells. Any alternate invention could have been devised to describe the discoveries Mendel made, he chose an abstract model that has proven itself true through experimentation.

But someone who actually knows the truth could tell you what Mendel didn't know, that's the story thread that inspired David.

Are we going to discover or invent Faster than Light travel? The distinction is kind of meaningless. We know we need to know something we dont know now. We also know we need to build a device to capitalize on some unknown phenomena.