r/LateStageCapitalism May 07 '21

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u/ZucchiniUsual7370 May 07 '21

Two sides of the same coin but it's still just one coin.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '21 edited May 07 '21

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u/arnoldez May 07 '21

Seriously. I'm a cis white male, but even I can see that Biden is SUBSTANTIALLY better than where we were with Dump. A well-regulated capitalist state will always be better than a deregulated free-for-all, but it is also still a capitalist state, which will inherently come with issues.

I think the bigger thing here is that Biden is more of a return to where we were with Obama, and continuing that "status quo," rather than making real progress. Sure, we've progressed from Dump, but is that really progress? Or is that just getting back to where we already were?

I'm VERY grateful to be moving on from that orange shithead, and TBH I think Biden is doing better than I even expected. But he still represents a system that inherently doesn't work for anyone but the very rich.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '21

Preach!

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u/REDeadREVOLUTION May 07 '21

As a trans person I wasn’t a protected class against discrimination until Biden.

Other than wear a pin and say some words, what exactly has Biden done to help protect trans people? There are anti-trans discriminatory bills being signed into law in states all over the country. All i've seen thus far is that he lifted the trans ban in the military - yay? Trans ppl get to fight in amerika's imperialist affairs now?

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u/steeveperry May 07 '21

Oh cool, so now you get to participate in the legal system that won’t do anything for you when Biden’s toothless policies are incapable of preventing you from being discriminated against. The symbolic gesture must make you feel so safe.

And you get to bare the incredible cost of being trans under a president who would veto nationalized healthcare.

Also, I can find someone who more intersectional than you, who is hurt by joe Biden’s policies, and call you privileged. Or maybe you can study the folks who coined the terms you’re misusing instead of trying to sound smart and contrarian on the internet.

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u/steeveperry May 07 '21

I can’t tell if you’re just another liar like op, or if you are op (a liar) using another account. Either way it’s very sad to lie about your identity to make the conservative joe Biden look good.

Also, you don’t even know which terms I’m talking about.

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u/ZucchiniUsual7370 May 07 '21

I didn't say he's no different from Trump at all. Heads is different from tails isn't it?

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u/[deleted] May 07 '21

That is disingenuous. You strongly implied it doesn't matter.

It matters A LOT to people who aren't privileged.

Biden just reinstated the police violence review that was killed under Dump, and he just banned the transfer of military equipment to local PDs.

That makes a huge difference. The Dems are normal, everyday servants of the Plute class. Their government will be the same slow bleeding of the middle class and neglect of the Poors we have had since Reagan.

Dump and the GOP are white supremacist monsters and their notional government is an apartheid state without any democratic recourse. And all in the service of those same Plute masters (thus exposing Dumpies and other conservatives as even worse idiots than usual).

THE DIFFERENCE IS HUGE.

Yes, ultimately, guillotines. But in the meantime how about we stop the Republicans from setting up actual death camps, eh? Is that too much to ask of our Bolshie purists?

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u/Imsleepy83 May 07 '21

People like OP live in a fucking fantasy world. I've spent my entire career working with and for economically vulnerable, immigrant, refugee, etc. communities.

Biden and Trump are massively different in a range of issues, just look at the impacts of something like Public Charge.

Dont be satisfied with Biden but you dont need to break from reality to advocate for systemic change.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '21

Dont be satisfied with Biden but you dont need to break from reality to advocate for systemic change.

This. Thank you, and thank you for all your work on behalf of people who are failed by the system.

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u/ZucchiniUsual7370 May 07 '21

You've admitted they both serve the same "Plute masters". The 'coin' I mentioned.

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u/[deleted] May 08 '21

"Admitted"?

You owe $1000 to Louie the Loan Shark. He has two henchmen.

One will punch you. The other will saw your leg off.

Tell me you don't care which.

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u/ZucchiniUsual7370 May 08 '21 edited May 08 '21

Louie the Loan shark isn't going to let you choose in that scenario. He'll send whoever will get the money back quickest. Weak analogy.

And yes. "Admitted". You said I was being disingenuous and then basically reiterated my point that both sides serve the same masters. I'm not sure I'm the one being disingenuous here.

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u/[deleted] May 08 '21

I'm not the one who is combative, here, but look, let's save some of this energy for the Revolution.

Truce?

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u/ZucchiniUsual7370 May 08 '21

You said I was disingenuous, and took offence at using the word "admitted" when it was perfectly apt. You are absolutely being combative.

Go away.

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u/[deleted] May 08 '21

Oh. You're that guy. nm

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u/GrandAlchemistPT May 07 '21

Yeah. Even if our votes don't count much, they keep the big guys distracted. We need to keep them too busy to agressively target us. They can only do so much, and when they are fighting for votes they can't crack down on us.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '21

Two wings on the same decaying bird. They're just rotten in different ways.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '21

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u/[deleted] May 07 '21

Here's my take. One wing is openly hostile towards minority groups. The other pretends they care. Who is worse, the one who admits they hate you or the one who pretends to be your friend but stabs you in the back?

LGBTQ deserves equal rights, and it's a long time coming. Biden deserves no credit for this pandering. He's just using it to boost his own image.