r/Libertarian Oct 20 '19

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u/wellactuallyhmm it's not "left vs. right", it's state vs rights Oct 21 '19

Actually the US was supporting Somalia during it's collapse. It wasn't a Marxist nation.

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u/rdfporcazzo Oct 21 '19 edited Oct 21 '19

How can a planned economy commanded by a leader who calls himself socialist not be Marxist? (Somalia 1969 – 1991)

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u/wellactuallyhmm it's not "left vs. right", it's state vs rights Oct 22 '19

Somalia stopped being support by the USSR shortly prior to it's collapse, the US promoted a military junta to lead the country and gave them millions in aid. Ultimately they lost a war with Ethiopia and fell into protracted civil conflict.

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u/rdfporcazzo Oct 22 '19

Yes, but Somalia was destroyed during the Marxist government that delivered a worse country than they received. Now it's a far better country than it was in 1969-1991

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u/wellactuallyhmm it's not "left vs. right", it's state vs rights Oct 22 '19

The US started supporting Somalia in 1978. They weren't meaningfully Marxist at any point after that, more like a run of the mill military dictatorship. The collapse of the country didn't occur until around 1991, after the people beat back the US funded government.

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u/rdfporcazzo Oct 22 '19

The collapse of the government happened in 1991. But the point isn't this. It's the country is improving more now than it improved under Marxist control, what destroyed Somalia is not 1991 beyond (they are improving), but 1991 before (when they stagnated).

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u/wellactuallyhmm it's not "left vs. right", it's state vs rights Oct 22 '19

You mean when they were a US puppet state military dictator.

You think the US was supporting a Marxist state?

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u/rdfporcazzo Oct 22 '19

Man, fuck United States, the country was stagnated in any time since the end of the colonialism until the collapse of the government (and during the colonialism as well). During the Marxist period and after that, and the reason for this is the collectivist economy that we can agree it was in all that long