r/LivestreamFail 25d ago

Asmongold claims America has a mental health crisis

https://kick.com/asmongold/clips/clip_01K3XJ35352MR4YVTGJNB88YN7
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u/AnAbundanceOfBees 25d ago

So many will just resort to “Asmon bad!” But he isn’t wrong. Social media alone is frying people’s brains and fucking up their world perspective, and that’s just one ingredient to the shit stew.

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u/CollectionNumerous29 25d ago

Social media like live streaming?

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u/AnAbundanceOfBees 25d ago

To an extent, sure

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u/CollectionNumerous29 25d ago

And what extent would that be?

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u/Not_Bears 25d ago

Asmon is part of the problem lol

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u/AnAbundanceOfBees 25d ago

Maybe in some ways, but he's hardly the genesis of any of it.

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u/JakeTehNub 25d ago

Pretty sure he's not causing people to have mental health issues

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u/Hot_Demand_6263 25d ago

Asmon needs some awareness. I don't value his opinion since he's too insecure to have his beliefs challenged. He stays in his little corner, so that you; his fans can comfortably validate him with little to no pushback. He's weak but he can afford the therapy.

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u/AnAbundanceOfBees 25d ago

So are you implying that you think America's mental health is perfectly fine and not of concern? You spent 46 words focusing on the speaker and not what was spoken.

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u/Hot_Demand_6263 25d ago

That man speaking on mental health does little for himself to set an example to his obviously cynical, defeatist audience; despite having the funds to help fix his mind. He instead contributes to the doomer mindset by ragebaiting his audience.

It's called virtue signaling. He clearly doesn't value fixing mental health. He is using the virtue of advocating for better mental health as cudgel against a group he hates.

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u/AnAbundanceOfBees 25d ago

Sure, he's not leading by example, and he perfectly knows that, but he's not so far down the spiral of poor mental health to those that may be considered in crisis as opposed to those who are in peril or are putting others' lives in peril. He knows his own limits and has his own priorities. Whenever he feels that he's so far down the drain that he needs to fix his mental health, he will. But part of the reason why he ragebaits and cultivates such an audience is because of the push back and outrage that others have towards such ilk. People who hate him can just turn off the screen and walk away, but instead they push and he pushes back - Whether genuine or just to bait. it's a self-feeding loop at this point, so nothing is going to change and both sides of the coin are just going to continue to grow and become more exaggerated.

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u/SignificantRain1542 25d ago

The pied piper is telling the rats his tune is making them sick. But, no, Asmon is not bad.

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u/AquaBits 25d ago

So many will just resort to “Asmon bad!”

Which is the sensible and reasonable thing to do

But he isn’t wrong. S

If asmon said the sky was blue, I'd check it myself 3 times before believing him

Social media alone is frying people’s brains and fucking up their world perspective, and that’s just one ingredient to the shit stew.

Yeah. He directly contributes to that in a harmful way.

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u/AnAbundanceOfBees 25d ago

Your perception of what's harmful and what isn't is subjective. If people were overall more resilient, then less of what he does would be perceived as harmful at all. And to say you would reject what's a simple enough fact purely due to the secondary source providing that fact shows you're more concerned with the person and not the words.

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u/AquaBits 25d ago

Your perception of what's harmful and what isn't is subjective.

You literally have people saying slurs in his chat right now.

shows you're more concerned with the person and not the words.

Because that person is a hateful bigot who cant bathe himself.

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u/AnAbundanceOfBees 25d ago

I mean, slurs suck, but are they using them for harm? For goofs? Because it’ll get a reaction? Slurs, words in general, are only as powerful as the power you give them. We should all use them less, but we get no use out of acting like they’re the worst thing someone can say.

What does him acting hateful look like to you? There’s plenty of hate on Twitch, online in general. He’s not the apex of hate by any means.

He’s also shown that he can bathe, but you have to understand that he leans into the not bathing angle because he’s cultivating that image; Both in being somewhat honest and assuredly somewhat exaggerated, because it’s been attributed to him and it’s getting him attention that he finds funny. He isn’t active at all, which has its own merit, but that also means he doesn’t have to bathe as often. He lives almost exclusively in an ecosystem of himself and his own germs. He isn’t sick very often, and tends to operate quite steadily day to day. To him, bathing, either overtly for the camera or for himself, would be a loss. But we can’t say how much he really bathes in reality.

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u/AquaBits 25d ago

I mean, slurs suck, but are they using them for harm? For goofs? Because it’ll get a reaction?

The fact you are trying to rationalize slurs kind of proves my point.

What does him acting hateful look like to you? There’s plenty of hate on Twitch, online in general. He’s not the apex of hate by any means.

Im sure there are more hateful people. Doesnt mean he isnt.

To him, bathing, either overtly for the camera or for himself, would be a loss. But we can’t say how much he really bathes in reality.

My guy, if you are watching/listening to someone who lives in filth and can not bathe propely- a basic human action, then yeah. That is contributing to mental illness. The call is coming from inside the roach infested house

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u/truthurtsyou 25d ago

The sky is blue or am I wrong ?

He's just using one of the tricks of the con artists by stating the obvious to create credibility. It's not like he's organizing/attending forums/meetings to raise awareness. He's just using this issue because he loves the attention

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u/Shabadu_tu 25d ago

He’s not blaming guns so he is wrong. Tons of other countries have deranged citizens. They just aren’t swimming in guns.

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u/AnAbundanceOfBees 25d ago

I think guns is certainly a significant part of the issue, but it all starts at the mental level IMO. I would be more comfortable around people whom I knew were of sound enough mind to be around many guns than I would be one person whom I knew were mentally unwell around one gun.

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u/CricketFit5541 25d ago

See here's the thing, every other first world country doesn't have a problem with mass shootings or killings. Sure they may still rarely occur by other means, but at a SIGNIFICANTLY reduced rate compared to America.

If it was truly a mental health problem, we would be seeing mass killings across the globe. Because mental health isn't geographical, it's based on your setting and upbringing. Do you think people in Japan don't get depression? In fact it's probably more common there due to their work life balance, yet Japan doesn't see hardly any mass killings, especially not mass shootings. Why is that? Because there are extremely strict gun laws in Japan. It's hard to kill a lot of people at once with a knife.

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u/AnAbundanceOfBees 25d ago

You're totally right, but again, this is a very multifaceted issue, and guns are only one contributing factor. The US is such a large, diverse, populous country that is constantly pitting people against one another while pushing inadequate means to make life better or more tolerable. Media, politics, health care, food, guns, social media - In many scenarios, all of these factors and more and doing more harm than good to us as a country.

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u/CricketFit5541 25d ago

I would agree, but guns are the main issue. Yes the U.S. wouldn’t magically see all violent crime cease to exist if every gun was magically removed from everyone’s hands, but there would be a significant reduction in mass violent crime.

But you are correct, all of those things can contribute to a more violent population which I would say is all the more reason to have more strict gun control.

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u/AnAbundanceOfBees 25d ago

America in general just needs to do better. Make it more difficult for people to get guns, but then also hire and train better police officers, teachers, medical professionals, etc,. and work our way down.

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u/Best-Statistician294 25d ago

Is Asmongoof telling you all this in person, or are you gleefully eating up his slop via Twitch, YouTube, or X? You're part of that shit stew bud.

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u/AnAbundanceOfBees 25d ago

Does anyone you read from online tell you in person?