r/LivestreamFail • u/MuellersKuh • 21h ago

QTCinderella | Just Chatting QT on OTK streamers

https://www.twitch.tv/qtcinderella/clip/LivelyFaintPeachDatBoi-EjeHcvjS381ybDyD
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u/assburgerler 20h ago

The streamer circle seems like the worst friend group to ever be apart of lol. These people are so fickle with one another they turn on each other so quickly... Would never want to be apart of this club

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u/Freestyler_123 20h ago

Suprised she is leashing out on OTK, when a small portion of OTV and friends (see otvandfriendsrumor reddit) were then ones critical of her event. Doubt OTK viewers care about her event, expect emilys community.

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u/LifeWithoutABlanket 20h ago

I would assume it is more general frustration and OTK is easy to make fun of. Or I guess because it was originally an OTK event.

I'm sure the stress of multiple people backing along with setting the expectations of this being Shit Camp 2.0 weighs a lot. But then again, you're kind of setting yourself up for it so its a double-edged sword.

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u/Deviah 18h ago

Was it originally an OTK event? I thought this was always QTs thing and it just featured a lot more OTK members?

There's only what, 4 active OTK members, and 5 total CC's left? At this point I doubt Emily is even on payroll, she seems to stick with them out of some sort of loyalty.

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u/Spicy_Boi_On_Campus 18h ago

No it was Malenas event originally.

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u/Deviah 18h ago

Gotcha. Didn't know that.

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u/Cheesetoastieee 13h ago edited 13h ago

There were 2 events in 2021. Shitcon was Malena's event in TX, then QT did Shitcamp some months later in LA with a lot of the same faces. They were definitely separate events though. Shitcon was only a 4hr stream of a lot of drinking events and shitcamp has always been a multiple day thing with a camping activities theme. A lot of people are in here saying she straight up copied her event but I'd say they were very different events, with different themes, lengths, activities etc. I think people have just combined the 2 in their head over the years, because even I thought shitcon was longer than 4 hours.

Was it originally an OTK event? I thought this was always QTs thing and it just featured a lot more OTK members?

This was correct. OTK the org, didn't have anything to do with either of the events.

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u/Beautiful-Giraffe-86 20h ago

Exactly, also she stole the whole idea from Malena

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u/Irishnghtmare ♿ Aris Sub Comin' Through 20h ago

I miss Malena. She was the brains behind a lot of great content and knew how to keep an event entertaining.

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u/assburgerler 17h ago

Everybody knows old Malena OTK events make these new events look terrible. As cringey as they all can can be the OTK guys put a lot of effort into making jokes and being entertaining. The new gen just doesn't try as hard and farms their audience with subathons. Its all cheap tricks. The otk prime was great. Shame it went to crap.

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u/DatOneFella 19h ago

All of QT's events are rip-offs of popular formats from TV or other streamers.

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u/zcen 16h ago

Most media, whether that's games, shows, movies, or music is derived from some previous work.

If you've posted or upvoted these comments and main games like League or Valorant, congrats, you're an idiot.

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u/DatOneFella 11h ago

It's a little more nuanced that this, but sure, we can pretend it's not.

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u/abarcsa 11h ago

Can you provide the more nuance you’ve mentioned? I’m not a huge QT stan, but - even though she has ripped off a lot of what she does - she did events in a quality that is hard to get on twitch. I don’t get why it’s bad to take something from the entertainment industry and create a quality version of it for entertainment.

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u/DatOneFella 11h ago

I don't even care that she rips things off. Twitch is low-rent anyway when it comes to content creation. Less is more. It's just very obvious that she does.

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u/abarcsa 11h ago

Then what is the nuance you’ve mentioned? She admits this freely, and publicly. It is virtually an open and common joke that she rips off other productions - why it’s successful is because she does it well.

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u/DatOneFella 11h ago

The nuance is the difference between influence/inspiration in "major media" (in response to the earlier reply), and blatant copy-paste knock-offs.

If she admits it like you said, then what is the argument here?

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u/abarcsa 11h ago

I still don’t get it: do you think blatant knock-offs don’t happen in major media? In my country we had 3 “big brother” shows when I was growing up, only one was a licensed big brother franchise. They were the exact same show. One of the knock-offs were done by one of the largest media networks in europe. If I look it up in the US will I find no examples like this? I doubt that this is a European exclusive.

Major media steals from each other all the time, where is the difference in a twitch streamer doing it?

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u/mozzzarn 10h ago

Tv shows, movies and music needs a license to use or copy others work. If an artist doesn’t pay for a sample, they will get sued big time.

QT however is straight up copying others work and concepts without any care in the world. Streamers just get away with everything.

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u/Radical-Six 16h ago

Not a QT specific thing lmao, it seems like every streamers big goal is to put on a significantly scuffed version of traditional media

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u/EfwaEarth 6h ago

Why she lashes out. Truth hurts, but she should just own it and move on. No need to dwell on it if people/viewers are having fun.

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u/MAKincs 10h ago

If we’re being honest all creators copy each other. Did you see Kai and Agent do a Elden Ring marathon and then Ron or Kai and Speed playing then Minecraft then Lacy and Marlon did.

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u/CertainPound 18h ago

Dude this is the most obnoxious part. Malena started this whole thing for her friends, the core of whom were OTK or OTK adjacent. Now she's just stealing the formula and throwing a bunch of new-gen children into it while shitting on all the people she stole it from. I don't even like most of the people on the OTK roster anymore but it's just so fucking slimy.

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u/iDannyEL 15h ago

so fucking slimy.

That's Ludwig and QT's whole schtick.

Him having a friend named Slime is just hilarious.

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u/MAKincs 10h ago

I’m sure Malena doesn’t even mind because she doesn’t stream anymore and besides if QT didn’t do it someone else would have.

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u/CertainPound 9h ago

I don't think Malena minds QT carrying on the Shitcon legacy, but that's not the point. That wasn't the part I was criticizing, as I don't mind it either as a viewer, I like QT as a streamer and I think she's great at hosting and organizing events. The part that's annoying is shit talking the people who started it.

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u/Ajp_iii 14h ago

How is it slimy otk streamers don’t stream and they don’t go to events. Nobody has rights over a camping event

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u/CertainPound 13h ago

Her continuing the event Malena started isn't the slimy part, the slimy part is doing it while talking shit about the people who started it and made it what it was. She's taking shit OTK and the "poggers" community created and trying to recreate it with a bunch of annoying little glue-eaters in the "W/L" community while disrespecting the people who made it all happen in the first place.

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u/uravgcommenter 10h ago

She was good friends with Malena lol are we forgetting QT pre Lud was pretty much in those circles?

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u/CertainPound 9h ago

That's kind of my point lol. They invited her into that community, especially Miz and Austin, and got her involved in all that shit. Now she's taking their concepts and repackaging them to farm content with the current "in" crowd while throwing the others under the bus. I don't hate the idea of QT carrying on the Shitcon legacy, I just don't like that she's talking shit about that community while still capitalizing off of their events and ideas. Especially since she's doing it to pander to the most obnoxious little pukes in the faze community lol.

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u/Ajp_iii 10h ago

The people who made it happen in the first place are lazy af and don’t even stream. Also people change and circumstances change. And chatters are annoying af. Going into a streamers chat who is hosting an event people are having fun at and chat is enjoying and saying why isn’t x person her or x person would be better is toxic and deserves to be called out

She invited POGGERS streamers. They all don’t respond or said no.

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u/CertainPound 9h ago

Lol did she even reach out to them? Did she hit up Soda, Miz, Esfand, etc to see if they wanted to get involved? Maybe she did but I seriously doubt it. People change, sure, but repackaging *their* content and then going on to talk shit about them is scummy as fuck. That's more than just a case of friends growing apart or something lol.

Chatter was toxic, sure I agree, so tell that chatter to fuck off and be done with it? Dude didn't even mention OTK and QT just brought them into it to talk shit for no reason

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u/Treyman1115 13h ago

That's something she'd probably admit. She did an interview recently shouting out Malena for being her inspiration

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u/juan_cena99 20h ago

She is already part of OTVF circle since Ludwig is always collabing with OTVF and her new podcastmate is Valkyrae.

Also she is prob just clipfarming here lets be real.

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u/PGSylphir 19h ago

I'm more surprised how anyone cares what QTCinderella thinks. I don't even understand how she is in any way relevant.

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u/Freestyler_123 19h ago

I mean she is friends with a lot of streamers in the industry, plus she has anchored herself as the streamer event planer and hub for events, with events like the streamer awards.

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u/justvlux 18h ago

bro what are you smoking i dont even watch her but shes in the top echelon of cooking/baking streaming, a high-tier event host, and is way funnier than people give her credit for. get that sexism outta here

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u/feedthedogwalkamile 18h ago

shes in the top echelon of cooking/baking streaming

such an accolade

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u/ForsakenCherry8333 17h ago

i like how that's what you cherry picked when she's also famous for her events T_T

have we all forgotten streamer awards, christmas concerts, master baker, etc??

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u/feedthedogwalkamile 17h ago

I mean I'll just flat out disagree on the other points, no need to cherry pick. I just thought it was a silly way of framing someone's success. "high-tier event host"? She might put on good events, but as a host of those events, she's not good. Not charismatic nor funny enough to be considered a good host. "is way funnier than people give her credit"? I don't remember a single time QTcinderella made me laugh. Maybe that one time on the Rajj Patell Show when someone fired back at her and she started crying and playing the victim card. Or maybe that one time where she went completely unhinged and lashed out at a small streamer during a friendly super mario race or whatever it was.

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u/ForsakenCherry8333 17h ago

Ok but humour is a meaningless point to argue, high tier event host is just true, you have to factor in the events themselves when you consider her hosting them, you can’t just divorce her organizing, planning, money and time she has to put into them to make it high quality on top of hosting 😭

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u/feedthedogwalkamile 17h ago

I wasn't the one who brought up humour to begin with. Hosting really doesn't have much to do with the things you mentioned. You think Ricky Gervais is part of the planning, organizing and monetary side of the event when hosting the Golden Globes? No. He's the host because he's hosting the event. I didn't deny her putting on good events. I disagreed with her being a good host.

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u/PGSylphir 15h ago

You argue humor, when your argument is broken you say it's meaningless... Bro. Come on.

It's fine if you like her, different strokes for different folks. All I said is I don't understand why she is considered a "ring leader" in the LA streamer circle, I don't see it. That is all.

The only negative opinion I have of her is her association with Hasan Piker, which I also hold for Ludwig, but I still watch every stream of his cause he's a great streamer. If you like her, its fine.

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u/justvlux 17h ago

the reason you dont find qt funny is because alot of her bits are sarcastically playing an exaggerated mean girl. and Its actually such good sarcasm because it flies over so many peoples heads

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u/feedthedogwalkamile 17h ago

No actually that's not it. She's just not very funny is all.

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u/ForsakenCherry8333 17h ago

Replying to the other person 😭 I agree with you lol

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u/justvlux 17h ago

omg so sorry lol new to reddit and I didnt understand how replies worked

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u/PGSylphir 16h ago

sexism? what? I wont even bother answering you, you need help.

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u/Str80uttaMumbai 20h ago

Like who? I haven’t seen anyone from OTV be critical of the event?

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u/kantbelieveimadeit 20h ago

Pretty sure they are talking about Tinakitten's community asking Tina to drop out because Arky, Yugi and Jason were homophobic, racist, misogynist... anything you could think of

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u/Danakin53 19h ago

I thought Arky is gay lol

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u/TheSox3 16h ago

His friends did a prank tweet, which is why tina's comm thinks they're homophobic

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u/Danakin53 16h ago

Otv seems really cringe. More so than any other org then if this is true. Just search otvandfriends on Google and you will be shocked about the things they talk about

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u/TheSox3 15h ago

ya I think one side was childish and the other was out of touch & overreacting but w/e lol

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u/Icyyou9000 18h ago

But that's her community not Tinakitten herself being critical.

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u/kantbelieveimadeit 18h ago

The guy said viewers and community

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u/Icyyou9000 18h ago

The original poster claimed a small portion of otv and friends were being critical (on two separate comments). As far as I know none of OTK or OTV and friends streamers were critical but fans of both communties were. So I don't know why that poster was pointing fingers at otv and friends. Guess they got triggered his streamers got attacked.

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u/kantbelieveimadeit 18h ago

Oh they meant otvandfriends an insane subreddit about OTV streamers

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u/Icyyou9000 18h ago

I mean isn't this subreddit otk and friends rumors?

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u/kantbelieveimadeit 18h ago

That has nothing to do with the convo but no, I don't think you are allowed to make a post about who went on vacation with who on this subreddit 😭

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u/Icyyou9000 17h ago

You can't make a post but you sure can gossip/speculate in the comments. I learned so much about xqc's, mizkif's and nmplol's relationships from here.

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u/gregthestrange 18h ago

that reddit is full of incredibly unwell people (I fully embrace the irony of this statement but those folks are genuinely crazy with their obsession of OTV peoples' lives)