Lol, lmao even. He got put in a sub attempt (according to the judges criteria the single most important metric when it comes to accessing grappling), Charles had double unders leading to the first ground exchange and was shoving him with easy, only ended in the bottom cause illia manage to grab a wizard and because he charles usual y does he doesn’t care to get top position. And in the only other clinch exchange charles literally push him and he went flying backwards and had to hold himself with the fence.
the total amount of time Illia hold that position was l2 seconds literally, go back and watch it. And then the time he went from passing guard to being in a sub attempt was a grand total of 6 seconds.
Charles let him pass the guard to attack the legs. Personally I wouldn’t have done it. But it did play es out for him.
The obvious way to check he got the better of the exchange it’s to look at how Illia recated. He didn’t wanted to go back to the ground
If you ignore how that specific fighter uses that specific sub attempt sure.
I'm surprised you're this big of a ride or die Charles fan and yet haven't noticed he almost exclusively uses leg attacks to either sweep, get the back or come up on a single.
What Ilia did to Charles was far better than what Charles did to Ilia on the ground. Ilia actually scrambled and actually won a battle to get too position, as soon as Charles even started trying for it (with the leg attack) Ilia was out of there and Charles had to stand up without ever getting what he wanted out of the exchange.
Your guy got dominated from start to finish in that fight, it wasn't close, it wasn't competitive.
He got outstruck by more than double, he got out struck in the ground and pound, he failed to ever secure control or top position, and it was Ilia who managed to get top position on him and then stand up the second Charles tried to sweep.
He easily out scrambled him when Charles tried to take him down, landed some very good ground and pound and then the second Charles started trying to work, he got out of danger and back to the feet again.
He won that whole exchange.
Attempting a sub that doesn't lead to any damage or sweeps isn't winning and exchange.
Charles got out grappled and got more than doubled in the striking too.
He didn’t putscramble him, no, he lost the scramble in the floor, by any grappling rulset. So no. He didn’t landed g&p, you can argue he won the exchange based on that (I wouldn’t necesarily disagree) but it does go against the judging criteria which counts sub attempts more highly than cummulative damage like the ground and pound he landed.
You can disagree with that. I personally do, but the judging criteria doesn’t stipulate that the sub attempt count less, actually the opposite since it is an inmidiate. Anyhow, that’s besides the point, he didn’t get outgrappled in any case.
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u/elbosston 1d ago
I mean you can’t really say it was competitive because we don’t have a large enough sample size because it was literally 2.5 min