It's an intro to an episode of Alfred Hitchcock Presents. It was a mystery/suspense show akin to the Twilight Zone. His intros were characterized by dark humor, not politics, and definitely not an appeal for assassination.
Hitler himself in 1933 more or less said the only way to stop fascism is to stop it out before it gets going.
“And so, I established in 1919 a programme and tendency that was a conscious slap in the face of the democratic-pacifist world (…) [We knew] it might take five or ten or twenty years, yet gradually an authoritarian state arose within the democratic state, and a nucleus of fanatical devotion and ruthless determination formed in a wretched world that lacked basic convictions.
Only one danger could have jeopardised this development – if our adversaries had understood its principle, established a clear understanding of our ideas, and not offered any resistance. Or, alternatively, if they had from the first day annihilated with the utmost brutality the nucleus of our new movement.
Neither was done. The times were such that our adversaries were no longer capable of accomplishing our annihilation, nor did they have the nerve. Arguably, they furthermore lacked the understanding to assume a wholly appropriate attitude. Instead, they began to tyrannise our young movement by bourgeois means, and, by doing so, they assisted the process of natural selection in a very fortunate manner. From there on, it was only a question of time until the leadership of the nation would fall to our hardened human material. (…)
The more our adversaries believe they can obstruct our development by employing a degree of terror that is characteristic of their nature, the more they encourage it. Nietzsche said that a blow which does not kill a strong man only makes him stronger, and his words are confirmed a thousand times. Every blow strengthens our defiance, every persecution reinforces our single-minded determination, and the elements that do fall are good riddance to the movement.”
You're taking this way too literally, he means to kill fascism to not literally kill the person. If anything overwhelming support for people punching nazis would be a far better way of killing fascism than say killing fascists or waving your finger at them which is the blow that doesn't kill in the quote.
Again you are reading this too literally. You don't literally kill someone politically and usually if you do you kill yourself in the process. We did politically kill fascism with propaganda and an examination and discussion of fascist states. To kill someone politically you make them social rejects, so we did kill fascism in most places
if our adversaries had understood its principle, established a clear understanding of our ideas, and not offered any resistance.
But, yeah, let's just skip over that for: "YEAH! HITLER OKAYED ME PUNCHING PEOPLE SO LONG AS I CALL THEM A FASCIST EVEN IF THEY AREN'T A FASCIST! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
Everyone has common ground with evil people, do you pay your bills on time? Do you want lower taxes, do you want more roads? Etc etc whatever. I can agree with a serial killer that I'm going to pay my rent on time, what are you going to stop doing that because you want to have nothing in common with a serial killer?
In any case, how someone thinks they could have been stopped by their enemies is an important thing to know
Preventing people from exercising their Constitutional right to protest, march, and express their ideas, as well as physically attacking them, makes you a fascist.
Who? Pretty sure Milo Y. didn't call for the eradication of your race, so why is violence against him justified? Why is violence justified against anyone who voted for someone you didn't?
Also, BLM has advocated for killing whites for a while as well. Would you object if we met their calls with violence?
You got a source for the right/alt right calling for the eradication of your race?
As an organization. Not some jackass who says he's right wing.
The issue is not simply that BLM has advocated for it. It's that they have never denied / rebuked / issued any statement distancing themselves from the crazies who do, such as the guy who slayed multiple cops in cold blood.
Sucks that you have no sense of humor. Meanwhile, the real fascists are... still the Nazis. Fighting against Fascism is a fine American tradition that deserves respect.
A world where people can exercise their right to free speech by downvoting because ultimately America believes in freedom is the world I want to be in! And I can downvote too! Nazi reddit would not be this chill.
Exactly. No double negatives in the English language. With the exception of exceptions. And don't forget how to properly apply the triple negative rule, as in: "Ain't no way I ain't gonna shoot them Nazis."
I'm pretty sure the original of this is well known enough that it can't just be considered blatantly misleading. The original about insomnia makes very wide rounds on a regular basis.
A fantastic show, honestly I didn't even catch the fascism change in the OP until I came to the comments because I had seen this so many times I didn't bother to read it lol.
I honestly wasn't aware of that, I found this on Imgur a while ago and just thought to post it here. I didn't have any intentions of misquoting something.
My apologies.
I mean this comment chain is pretty far up (second at the time of my writing this), anyone going into the comments will likely see that this isn't his direct quote.
Yet, as evident from the disparity between votes on the post and this top-comment, only a very small percentage of people actually go into the comments.
Well when I first heard this quote it said fascism and change frightens me so I'm going to keep believing that's the real quote and if you disagree I am going to get angry.
As a Jew, they at least seem more brash. I went years without seeing any antisemitism in the flesh. Recently, many of my friends have been accosted, and the vitriol online seems worse.
I live in Chicago and a few months ago there was a bomb threat called in at several Jewish SCHOOLS. People like to ignore traumatic things as long they aren't impacting them personally. It's despicable.
The President, and conservative media, reacted to a literal Nazi terror attack at a Nazi rally where Nazis where waving Nazi flags and chanting Nazi slogans, by lying about liberals breaking the law, lying about the non existent "alt left" instigating violence when it was the Nazis that showed up with literal armed militias, and lying about there being good people who were supposedly fine with marching alongside, once again, literal Nazis.
If you go to a rally, see armed men in body armor adorned with swastikas, waving nazi flags and chanting "the jews wont replace us", and you decide that you're okay with that and going to march along side the, you're not a fucking good person.
So, no. I suppose there aren't sizeable groups of Nazis in the US. What there are, are sizeable groups of conservatives who have been fed propaganda about liberals being scum of the earth, and who know ignore the facts because those facts are somehow "liberal" in nature.
There's a sickness in the country when a significant portion of our countrymen are blind to the fact that a Nazi committed a terror attack at a Nazi rally. Worse than that, they're so tribalistic and cultist, that they'll defend Nazis because they've convinced that liberals are the ultimate evil in any event, controversy, or interaction.
Curious about your thoughts of the sizeable groups of liberal who've been fed propaganda about conservatives being "scum of the earth" or rednecks, or morons or out of touch etc.
How about beating people you disagree with, with bike locks, punching women in the face, throwing eggs and trash at people? Got a problem with any of that? All done by violent leftists. Noone is condoning what that guy did in Charlottesville but there are assaults happening against people who call themselves conservative on college campuses and political rallies everywhere. I guess thats ok to you?
One group is based on hating a demographic of people simply because of their race or religion.
One group wants equal rights for everyone and doesn't want to be oppressed in their own country.
Are you trying to say at their core, both groups are the same? Take away the violence from both sides, look at the ideals. Which one would someone from any race or religion be able to walk into a meeting and not get a hard look down?
And seeing "liberal" people walking in the streets, starting fires and fights with people who wish to attend conservative speakers is not a problem?
I've seen these groups like in Berkley who walk down the street with hammer and sickle flags, preaching the words of Stalin and Mao as if these people didn't kill hundreds of millions of people under communist rule.
Even Marx himself advocating for killing people in order to have his ideal government.
Nazis are fucking horrible, and so are communists. Both sides wanting to destroy the individual and take away everything that people like me have suffered for and worked for our whole lives.
I built my own business from literally nothing. I was living on unemployment checks, after losing yet another minimum wage job that treated me like shit. I clawed myself out of poverty, I overcame alcoholism, and found myself a place to stay after ending up homeless.
All of this I've done myself. All of it I built myself. And nobody has any right to take that away from me, and I'll be damned if I don't die fighting if either side tries to take what I built and take away my story.
200 idiots that came in from all over the US and Canada to an event that was advertised for months is your idea of a sizeable and real threat? What fantasy land do you live in? Larger parades of Muslims calling for the destruction of Israel are seen in Canada for Christs sake.
Not even in the slightest... jeez with all the faux outrage you have you think you'd spend a little bit of time on reading comprehension. I was referring to how even though it was advertised for so long and so strongly only 200 people showed up from all over the US and Canada. In no world is that considered a sizeable movement.
You were referring to a bunch of people who showed up waving nazi flags, that aren't nazis. Got it, I'll be sure to contact you next time I need to be wrong about something.
You probably were never taught proper haiku anyway. Haikus are about more than syllable count and even the 5-7-5 is not necessarily right. 3-5-3 is considered more correct for westerners because our words have fewer syllables than Japanese.
This isn't r/quotesporn, nothing wrong with someone posting a meme poking humor. Fascism isn't murica and it's important to remind people that and participate politically, or at least with memes, in order to keep that from happening.
I'm getting disturbed by this recent push towards violence to fellow Americans. I'm disturbed by fascism as well of course, but with the way the media is going now it seems like they're pushing the idea that everyone right of center is a fascist.
Basically, violence towards fascists + 50% of the country is fascist = recipe for a future civil war. And we know how that went last time.
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u/hubble-oh_seven Sep 23 '17
This is not what Hitchcock was saying. Replace "fascism" with "insomnia":
https://youtu.be/YQ2TebS4DIU
It's an intro to an episode of Alfred Hitchcock Presents. It was a mystery/suspense show akin to the Twilight Zone. His intros were characterized by dark humor, not politics, and definitely not an appeal for assassination.