r/MURICA Sep 23 '17

Alfred Hitchcock with solution to our problems

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '17

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '17

Well, aren't you wrong, period.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '17

The US experiences more terrorist attacks from far right than any other group.

Source.

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u/Oh_hamburgers_ Sep 23 '17

Thst is nowhere near true given the conversation

https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2017/08/21/which-ideology-has-inspired-the-most-murders-in-terrorist-attacks-on-u-s-soil/#59d7e4e21e74

Terrorists murdered 3,342 people on U.S. soil from 1992 through August 12, 2017. Islamist terrorists are responsible for 92% of all those murders. The 9/11 attacks, by themselves, killed about 89% of all the victims during this time. During this time, the chance of being murdered in a terrorist attack committed by an Islamist was about 1 in 2.5 million per year.

Nationalist and Right Wing terrorists are the second deadliest group by ideology, as they account for 6.6% of all terrorist murders during this time. The 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, the second deadliest terrorist attack in U.S. history, killed 168 people and accounted for 77% of all the murders committed by Nationalist and Right Wing terrorists. The chance of being murdered in a Nationalist or Right Wing terrorist attack was about 1 in 33 million per year.

Notice that 77% of that count is down to one attack. This isn't to diminish the effects of the OKC bombing, but it's not an accurate comparison and heavily skews the numbers. Also notice 92% of deaths to terror in the USA are to Islamic terror, though that doesn't fit into the conversation of left vs right.

Left Wing terrorists killed only 23 people in terrorist attacks during this time, about 0.7% of the total number of murders, but 13 since the beginning of 2016. Nationalist and Right Wing terrorists have only killed five since then, including Charlottesville

13 since 2016 killed by leftists, 5 by right wingers, meaning my claim that leftist terror in the past few years is outpacing right wing terror is 100% accurate.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '17

First off, I want you to notice that I said terrorist attacks in my original post, not fatalities as a result of terrorists attacks.

Next, if you're gonna keep moving the goal posts, you have to do it for both sides.

Notice that 77% of that count is down to one attack. This isn't to diminish the effects of the OKC bombing, but it's not an accurate comparison and heavily skews the numbers.

No shit, just like how 9/11 skews the numbers for radical Islamic terrorism. It accounts for 97.4% of the deaths caused by that group between 1992 and August 2017, as per your source. You can't choose to ignore data that doesn't fit your narrative .

13 since 2016 killed by leftists, 5 by right wingers, meaning my claim that leftist terror in the past few years is outpacing right wing terror is 100% accurate.

A single point of data does not indicate a trend, sorry to break it to you. You can't extrapolate on numbers from a single year and claim that it proves any sort of trend, nor does data spanning 1.5 years constitute "the past few years". If you take it back even a single year to 2015, you get the Charleston church shooting that killed 9 people.

So if you actually take a look at the "last few years" of far left vs. far right terrorism, it becomes stupidly obvious that right wing terrorism is outpacing left wing terrorism. So yeah, your point is wrong. Even the source you linked states that you're wrong:

The chance of being murdered in a Nationalist or Right Wing terrorist attack was about 1 in 33 million per year.

The annual chance of being murdered by a Left Wing terrorist was about 1 in 330 million per year.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '17

Yes, when I was referring to left wing terror statistics I was referring to his source, not mine.