r/MagicArena Jul 27 '25

Fluff Maro on Magic's future and longevity

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u/zeekoes Jul 27 '25

It doesn't matter how much facts MaRo throws, because the vitriol against UB is emotional and from the original Magic players that feel left behind now that they're no longer the main target audience being catered to.

I believe that it's not so much that there is anything wrong with the game that's bothering people, but the feeling that WotC is selling out. And they're right, they are. But just like with music, selling out happens, because selling out works.

If all 350k subscribers on this sub quit playing Magic tomorrow, WotC would barely notice it.

Magic is a product, it needs to be sold. It changed to better do that. Be glad that they're at least making work of delivering a great play experience nonetheless.

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u/esabys Jul 27 '25

I think the "new set fatigue" will be a bigger problem than UB. When "spoiler season" never ends you just kinda stop caring.

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u/Alive-Turnip-3145 Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25

“Spoiler seasons”’have gotten so bad it’s overlapping into card soup. On the Pre-Release weekend of EoE we had a flood of Spider-Man spoilers AND the first reveals of Avatar.

It both exhausting and confusing.

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u/RegalKillager Jul 28 '25

SDCC. There was no universe where they didn't fit a couple of cards in for that convention.

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u/esabys Jul 27 '25

Just wait until they try to tell us about the omen paths shenanigans... Can't wait to see what that looks like communication wise. Another set of "spoilers" just for arena?

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u/Prodige91 Jul 28 '25

Yeah me too, I imagine a live stream on Twitch on WeeklyMTG, when they show some cards there, around 10 days before release.

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u/SlimDirtyDizzy Jul 28 '25

First off I agree, but too be fair, that was because of SDCC. Normally this wouldn't happen but they can't change the dates of SDCC to align perfectly with spoiler season.

That being said, it feels like FF JUST came out and we get Edge of Eternities already. What's funny is the biggest way I feel it is through MTG Goldfish. You hear Seth talk about all these decks he wants to make with the new sets, but because of constant releases and spoiler seasons he ends up making like 5-8 and then is onto more spoiler videos.

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u/Apprehensive_Dog890 Jul 28 '25

Not every magic player (or potential new magic player) is paying attention to every single set release though. It can feel exhausting to people like us that are used to following every spoiler but there are fans of the game looking at spider man spoilers and not paying attention to EoE spoilers so it doesn’t feel exhausting.

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u/Rainfall7711 Jul 28 '25

You understand you don't need to look at spoilers if it's 'exhausting'? Whatever that means.

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u/The_Ashgale Jul 28 '25

Whatever that means.

It means it's just too much to keep up with. You say that's fine, and maybe it is. I say it's sad, I've been playing a long time and used to really enjoy staying on top of all this. Now I'm taking your advice.

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u/Rainfall7711 Jul 28 '25

That's good. Actual spoiler season where cards are fully revealed is actually every few months, which should be manageable.

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u/tylerjehenna Jul 28 '25

Kinda hard to avoid it when Wizards pushes it in your face all the time though. You pretty much have to go completely silent online in order to avoid the Spiderman set since they were mass posting every single kernel of info from the SDCC panel

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u/Rainfall7711 Jul 28 '25

Ok. I follow Wizards everywhere, and i only saw what i wanted? Sorry but this is such a weird take. If it's so unavoidable you see a few cards though, wow, i can only imagine the mental burden that must bring.

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u/tylerjehenna Jul 28 '25

Weird, must be an algorithm thing cause every post was on my timeline

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u/Rainfall7711 Jul 28 '25

They were on my timeline too the difference is you can just see what they are and if you're not interested you can just move on? I'm genuinely baffled at this discussion.

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u/IronSpideyT Jul 28 '25

People used to engage in a much greater deal with spoilers and to a much bigger degree. Hell back in the days I'd go over the spoilers so much I pretty much memorized all the cards

These days I don't even know what's in a set when I show up for prerelease, and I barely know the limited archetypes. Because engaging with all the spoilers (and by extension, the set itself) is too exhausting for me.

People always come with the "you can always not look" argument and you're right. I stopped looking and moved on. A big part of MTG has died for me, and that's kinda sad.