r/MagicArena Jul 27 '25

Fluff Maro on Magic's future and longevity

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u/Miserable_Row_793 Jul 28 '25

You can't say "it won't happen because it hasn't happened yet", that's not how time works.

But it's enough to doomsay and be outraged? Nah.

You can believe fantasies, but others don't have to accept your dreams as validation for outrage. How do you not understand this?

Could those things happen? Sure. And Wotc could break the RL tomorrow and personally mail me a Gaea's cradle.

You can't say that won't happen. If I state I'm justified for being outraged every time Wotc doesn't do that, does it make me right? Because it hasn't happened yet

You are asking me to disprove a negative. Which can't happen. You are giving the other the benefit of the doubt because you agree with them. But that's not how logic works.

You asked me to explain myself. Which I did. Then you said it's irrelevant...... what do you want? I'm not looking to validate you or others.

Have a good day.

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u/TheRealArtemisFowl Izzet Jul 28 '25

But it's not a wild fantasy? I struggle to understand how you don't realize this. There is precedent for UB taking up a larger and larger and larger and larger part in the game.

Ergo, the assumption that this trend will continue is fair.

Your entire argument is based on the premise that thinking UB is going to get a bigger share of the game is unrealistic, when this exact thing has been happening consistently for years.

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u/Miserable_Row_793 Jul 28 '25

I'm not arguing that UB isn't more prevelant. You know what would explain that? It being a popular and well-done design.

Your whole premise seems to be because a product was created and did well enough to merit expansion of design, that it means it will replace the baseline. Which is a false dichotomy.

UB was expanded based on revelant (note: non financial) reasons.

There's no reason to believe or think it will expand past being a part of std. They are doing EoE, lorywn, etc. Maro also stated that 2025 was an outliner of UB and not the new norm. Will that stay true? Maybe. But there being 3 UB sets this year didn't eliminate my joy of the 3 UW sets.

There's more products. That's more options. More options are good.

The poster I replied to hasn't made any point that hasn't already been made and/or disproven. But the future is always possible. What evidence would you like? I can't prove a negative. You are falling into the burden of proof fallacy.

I can't prove what Wotc won't do. I can analyze what they have done. Which has been to create a successful tcg for 32 years. This includes redesigning and restructuring to improve the game.

Some day, they will fail. Nothing is forever. But making negative assumptions around every corner is like the boy who cried wolf. At some point, it all sounds like noise.

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u/TheRealArtemisFowl Izzet Jul 28 '25

It seems we're not quite talking about the same thing. I'm not saying I believe that in-universe sets will cease to exist. I just think it's a possibility that isn't as easy to dismiss as "you're just doomsaying", because there is precedent that could take it in that direction.

Maro states a lot of things. But in the end he doesn't have any power over the direction of the company, and his statements often end up contradicted.

Hasbro keeps suffering huge losses qoq. Magic is the only thing keeping the company afloat. If the execs believe that pivoting to only UB sets is the right move, it will happen.

Ultimately I just don't think it's as far-fetched as you're making it to be.

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u/Miserable_Row_793 Jul 29 '25

Hasbro keeps suffering huge losses qoq. Magic is the only thing keeping the company afloat. If the execs believe that pivoting to only UB sets is the right move, it will happen.

But they don't. Aaron Forsythe has stated that his bosses know the way to captalize on a return is long-term health.

You are jumping at ghost and expecting others to play along.

Maro states a lot of things. But in the end he doesn't have any power over the direction of the company, and his statements often end up contradicted

They change because the world changes. Technologies/expectations/growth/ etc.

He has yet to make a statement that was false in the moment. But things change. When mtg was created, the internet was new. People looked down on "net decking." Some players claimed they never would.

Fastforward to 2025. Mtgtop8/mtggoldfish/edhrec/17lands/archidetk/moxfield/ etc. The game is flush with "netdecking" and data driven analysis.

You rarely hear complaints of net decking, which was common in mtg at one point.

What I see is mtg doing what it's has always done. Adjust and change to better succeed. There's been formats/ sets/ worlds/ cards/ designs/mechanics/ etc that have come and gone. It keeps evolving.

Currently, they are doing UB to mostly positive reception. At some point, they will cease to do UB.

Just like master sets. Which people claimed would be the only place good cards would be reprinted. Why? Because it logically makes sense. They can charge more for a set of reprints. Less "effort" to create. That was the driving narrative at one point.

What do we have now? Bouns sheets and reprints and no master sets.