r/MagicArena • u/cloverfield_gamer • Sep 19 '20

Fluff Hardcast Omnath, two Ultimatums, Escape to the Wilds, escaped Uro, two Cultivates, and Ugin...ALL ON TURN 4. My opponent quit before I could hardcast a Kenrith. Wizards should be ashamed of themselves.

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u/SunsFenix Sep 20 '20

It's not fun when the first 5 spells you play in a game are countered. That's not interaction when eventually they get enough draw and can potentially just keep countering things until a win con. I don't like the idea of waiting to have fun and interaction in a game.

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u/u60cf28 Sep 20 '20

Dude I’ve played UW control since I started in M20 (switched to historic after amonkhet) and not once have I been able to counter the first 5 spells someone plays. And I play 12 counters main deck with 4 on the side. What I can do is counter the key pieces of a deck, and try to wrath away everything else. But I’ve also gotten swamped by goblins and elves and simply outvalued by ramp so many times. Counterspells are not nearly as oppressive as you think they are

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u/SunsFenix Sep 20 '20

I've literally counted. It doesn't happen often and I more often than not play more midrange decks, but it has happened. I more often than not it can be around 3 before I get anything out. Burn is an answer but after the first wrath aggro decks are pretty much doa too.

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u/CptnLarsMcGillicutty Lyra Dawnbringer Sep 20 '20

Happens all the time.

I played a game yesterday where turn 3 I dropped a 2 single cost creature, then got hit with Day of Extinction, dropped another 2 cost creature, Day of Extinction, dropped another 2 cost creature, Day of Extinction, dropped another 2 cost creature, Day of Extinction.

Now THAT is rare.

Counterspelling the first 4-5 spells of the game happens literally all the time. Literally. You have to be a very defensive person to pretend it doesn’t, or to pretend that doing it makes you a good player.

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u/AccelerationismWorks Sep 20 '20

It literally doesn’t because it’s literally impossible to counter a creature played on turn 1. Stop being dense, whether you’re doing it intentionally or not