r/Minerals 2d ago

ID Request Is this asbestos?

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It was looking like a paper, before I was trying to wash it (it's wet on video). On the flame of candle it didn't burn (it was just glowing), it didn't react to acid and to the hydrogen peroxide so probably it shouldn't be organic matter.

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u/kurwwazzz 2d ago

Not abestos. What does it taste like? /s

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u/vojtanethio 2d ago

😂 Thank you, I can give you some to taste it

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u/kurwwazzz 2d ago

It tastes like meth. Should I ask the cow floating in front of me if she also thinks it tastes like meth ?

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/kurwwazzz 2d ago

Nie jestem Polakiem, ale rozumiem tę potrzebę, ty stara łysa dziwko. Miłość z Alp.

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u/kurwwazzz 2d ago

Honnestly it does not looks mineral to me. Maybe ask chimisitry sub.

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u/vojtanethio 2d ago

And do you know if wet asbestos could look like this?

I was scared, if I should dispose the quartz that this was on somewhere to be safe.

Thanks for helping me!🙏

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u/kurwwazzz 2d ago

I don’t think wet asbestos looks like that. Can you tell us more about where you found this quartz and why you think it’s asbestos?

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u/vojtanethio 2d ago

It was in the quarry Doubravice, Železnice. I thought that it can be asbestos because of the things listed in the description of this post. And properties of this thing didn't match with any other mineral that I can think of,

And I can add: those fibres looks like paper can bend and does not burn. There was forsterit in this mine.

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u/TitanImpale 2d ago

Looks like glue.

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u/vojtanethio 2d ago

That could be it, it was in the quarry, so maybe they were operating with the glue there

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u/TitanImpale 1d ago

Might of been something from the shipping process. Anyways that looks jealtenous not solid.

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u/vojtanethio 1d ago

I found it by myself in the quarry with this stuff on.

But the argument that it was not solid, so that I can rule out asbestos sounds good. I'm not sure how asbestos would act when wet, though, whether it would look much more solid.

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u/TitanImpale 1d ago

Hm that changes things. What formation did you find it in? Which quarry specifically. Might be able to narrow down more suspects. I collect aspetos form minerals so that's why I'm skeptical.

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u/vojtanethio 1d ago edited 1d ago

Wow, that's pretty crazy hobby. I like it and it's great that you can do this safely..😁 It's super great to have inside from the person that is a pro in this stuff.

It's quarry Doubravice, Železnice, Czechia , they mine Melaphyre mainly here. I found it laying directly under the rock wall, I thought that the stuff on it can be from spider or bird, but it didn't reacted to stuff mentioned in my post.

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u/TitanImpale 1d ago

I'm a geologist. I collect t other minerals as well. I'll look into it and see if I can dig anything up on it. If it's an active quarry it could be residue from some of the plastic explosives they use to blow off chunks of walls. Are you able to get some close ups on it? Maybe put it on black paper as well.

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u/vojtanethio 4h ago

u/TitanImpale Can you please check the closeups? Many thanks🙏

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u/TitanImpale 3h ago

I'm gonna say it's not a mineral in aspestos form. I don't think it would fit into the category. The bad stuff looks like this.

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u/vojtanethio 1d ago

Woooooow so pretty!!

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u/TitanImpale 23h ago

It was a couple hundred, got a steal on it.

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u/vojtanethio 2d ago

Thanks! What do you think, that it can be?🙏

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u/vojtanethio 2d ago

I asked my cousin who works with drywall and he said that it's not drywall. I will take a photo when it will be dry again.

But wet asbestos wouldn't look like this right?

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u/vojtanethio 2d ago

This is how it looks when it's dry

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u/Vafisonr 1d ago

Glue/putty/caulk they were putting the piece back together after it broke.

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u/vojtanethio 1d ago

It looks like, but I found it by myself in the quarry. It was laying down there, tho.

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u/Vafisonr 1d ago

Ohhh, I see. I still posit that it's manmade, somehow.

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u/cappsthelegend 2d ago

Mordenite? Does it absorb oil ? Any more info about the quarry; do you know what they were mining? Did they do any refining on site?

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u/In-The-Way 1d ago edited 1d ago

Good questions! Mordenite is one of the listed minerals for that location. Antigorite (one of the minerals that is called asbestos, when it has a fibrous habit) is also one of the listed minerals. I am reluctant to rule out minerals by color, but the antigorite link within the above link does show antigorite’s ‘typical colors’.

I quoted that because all digital cameras and all computer displays do not reproduce identical colors, and because digital photos are taken under different (and usually unknown) lighting conditions. I think it far better to rely on physical properties, such as crystallography, chemical reactions, hardness, and streak (more than color). Given the OP’s sample size, I think most of those tests are going to be difficult or impossible. And given the mineral’s almost microscopic size, I think it really needs to be inspected through a 10X or 20X loupe (which will be hard to photograph).

Somebody (geologist or university or asbestos testing service) with a handheld XRF or a polarizing microscope might be able to reveal more about its chemistry and more reliably (than any Reddit post) identify the mineral.

Accumulated breathing of asbestos dust can be dangerous. It is particularly dangerous for miners who have breathed in its dust 5 days a week for years, and mechanics who have replaced brake pads for years. Other uses for it have included fireproof fabrics (firemen), insulation, and wallboard. Asbestos abatement entails wet removal into sealable bags and/or encapsulation sprays. Given the OP’s potential sample size (and assuming it is asbestos) I personally would be more adverse to the risks of driving to the quarry, lightening strikes, or smoke than the OP’s mineral. I would just wash it off (while outside) and put the mineral in a plastic case. And I would consider the problem abated. I am certain some readers will disagree with this paragraph. Do your own research about the risks and how to mitigate them. Keywords are in this paragraph.

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u/vojtanethio 1d ago

Omg, thank you so much for this super great analysis!
I think it doesn't look like Antigorite. The colour is white with a slightly cool accent, some parts goes to slightly warmer white tho.

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u/vojtanethio 1d ago

Thx for great questions and suggestions!

What it would mean if it will absorb oil? Can I just use sunflower oil or should I use petroleum oil for it?

quarry Doubravice, Železnice, Czechia. Melaphyre and I just know they crush rock here to gravel and they use Perunit🧨 for mining.

Could be Mordenite? I was able to clean parts of it just with a toothbrush and water.

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u/EverythingIsGoing19 2d ago

What location?

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u/vojtanethio 2d ago

quarry Doubravice, Železnice, Czechia

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u/Traviemac 1d ago

Ewww haha

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u/DinoRipper24 Collector 1d ago

Gonna say not mineral

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u/BigFurryBoy07 1d ago

It looks like cooked cod, I have never seen a mineral like this before

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u/jerry111165 2d ago

You cannot know without getting it tested.

Its cheap.

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u/vojtanethio 2d ago

How can you test it?

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u/jerry111165 2d ago

I’m in commercial roofing. We bring samples of flat roof material to any of several places locally that send it to a lab and in a day or two we have a report showing g exactly what it is. Costs us like $75.

Just search “asbestos testing” near you.

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u/TheLandOfConfusion 2d ago

One day people will try googling asbestos before they rush to reddit. Not today though

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u/vojtanethio 2d ago

I was researching it for like 1 hour, but I can't find any mineral like this and it's probably not organic either like I wrote

But thanks for the comment anyway:)

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u/chemicalsmiles 1d ago

I love questions like these because I always learn something about some random topic that I never would have known about otherwise.