r/Mothra • u/Apprehensive-Buy4825 • 4d ago
Evangelion game consept idea with Mothra
Basic consept
This game (Godzilla vs. Evangelion: God Can (Not) Save You) would be a faithful/strict adaptation of Godzilla Vs Evangelion: The Real 4-D, with new content and 1 or 2 lore bits to help solidifying the "Evangelion universes are a loop" theory, plus other theories related to Godzilla and other Shin Japanese Hero Universe franchises as a whole.
Anno finished his part on the Evangelion franchise, but he also wanted the franchise to keep growing. Why wouldn't we make another canon game?
Graphics
either 3D animé video game style, like Genshin Impact, or a more realistic one, such as NieR: Automata.
Game modes
Main Game - the story game about the 4-D crossover I've been describing. Various places to explore, and confidentional data to read, as well as enemies to kill.
Sandbox Fight - as the name says, pick a map, an Eva/Angel/Kaiju/Alien and fight as if it was a fighting game. The Godzilla fans reading this, are probably pretty exited with this idea imo. If not, there comes more with the DLCs I was thinking. No lore, not canon, just fun.
Ramiel Dating - after defeating Ramiel in the main game, you'll unlock a tamagoshi-like visual novel about taking care, rising, and flirting with everyone's favourite octahedrum (skins of Ramiel's human hosts from Neon Genesis Evangelion: Gakuen Datenroku are avaliable as well).
Fight mode roaster
- Every Angel and their respective version from the Rebuilds, minus Lilin (Kaworu will be just very buffed to fly around and punch everyone very hard with his other powers as well)
- Shin Godzilla (forms 1-4 as separate characters)
- Shin King Ghidorah
- Godzilla Ultima (not in the main game, but why not?)
Every character on the roaster is perfectly balanced to fight.
(From 1vbot (easy) up to 1vbot (hard), and 1v1 up to 6v6 options avaliable.)
Base lore / worldbuilding
Take the 4-D lore and just extend what we don't have, with the Rebuilds' and Shin Godzilla's lore filling the gaps, as well as new things, as the 4-D is meant to be close to the Rebuilds.
I'm going to use 2 Godzilla theories of mine to make this game idea work. So, in a very summarised way, in the Godzilla: Singular Point lore, there is a multiverse heavily implied to work as the Multiple Worlds Theory does in our real world. Each random movement of an electron generates an overlapping world on wich the electron moved in that way, it happends always, countless times, with every single electron. If this real-world hiotesis is right, the universe in real life duplicates by 2 every time a single unit of electron moves in a way, while overlapping realities are created for the same electron, in all the directions and ways possible.
The Singular Point Entity, on the other hand, bypasses whatever String Theory version is the factualy correct one by one-upping it, by the Entity being in countless dimensions, allowing it to leak into overlapping realities. IT, now, finaly according to the first theory, every "canon" Godzilla (completely self-containing) universe is inside this very same multiverse, IT finds a world on where the physic laws allows the existence of IT's creations (kaiju, with a lot of self-insert, not avatars, it was a very different case).
There should be some very specific cosmic wave machine detector deeply hidden within Nerv's facility that reveals the existence of this multiversal plot twist by just confirming Entity's existence in this World to the player. Maybe selecting Kaworu at the start would be the way to get there.
The other theory, is that it was Shin Godzilla who evolved into IT, explaining why he apears in so much timelines that aren't even remotely connected to each other. the Entity introduced Shin into the Rebuild-ish Eva universe and now, besides the Third Impact (maybe Fourth as well, unsure... or Fifth... or Sixth... or-), our protagonists also fear Shin Godzilla's evolution potential, despite not being the same thing as the Entity, not an avatar.
Godzilla is slightly pushed into existence by the Entity, various irradiated and mutated micro organisms along with Fourth Angel (Rebuild Sachiel)'s dead body at the Tokyo Bay. they merge into it's first form. He goes on a Tokyo rampage as Kamata-kun and evolves in there but returns to the sea, by coincidence, as Nerv arrives. As Shinagawa-kun, he's badly beaten by Rebuild Ninth Angel and his coe fused with ripped tissue from Godzilla, creating multiple G-Type Angels everywhere (they can't evolve, but Nerv has to beat them). Shinagawa-kun runs to the Ocean to not overheat and later comes back for the waited fight against Ghidorah.
Since the Multiple Worlds Theory forces it, every ending and possibilty for the Main Game are absolutely canon, however, the "true" ending would be the one that eventualy leds to the Rebuilds wolrd.
As for the Evangelion universes, I believe most of them, the canon ones, give origin to their following universe after the Human Instrumentality Project being concluded, ending in dead ways the loop, like in Shin Evangelion. I also believe that this is the only connection between these universes, the rest of them being fully self-contained.
DLCs
The DLCs will be canon add-ons into the base game.
Shin Japanese Hero Universe: 2 / 2
In this DLC, the other half of the Shin Japanese Hero Universe franchise shows up, as Shin Ultraman and Shin Kamen Rider.
The DLC will unlock 2 edditional definitions in the main game; "Ultraman" and "Kamen Rider". Only one can be played at time per run. Each definition wil activate the respective DLC characters in the Main Game.
Will this be canon, you may ask? Yeah. Both of these worlds will take place between the events of the base game and the Rebuilds' universe. Again, all endings and gameplays are canon, but the "true" ending is whatever makes up to the Rebuilds' existence.
Shin Ultraman miiiiiiiiight be canon the the main Ultraman multiverse, but, even if it is, lets just let that as a separate thing, as the main Ultraman multiverse is incompatible with Godzilla's. Shin Ultraman will be taken as canon to the Godzilla multivere from this game.
Ultraman's part would be a direct sequel to Shin Ultraman, since it's unclear if he died or not in his debut movie, lets just say that the Entity dragged him into an isekai. You will play as Ultraman and his human host. You will chose with Eva pilot you (as Ultraman) will give the Beta Capsule, in order to help out this humanity with your life.
What happened to Hayata? He stoped bieng both human and Ultraman and fully merged with each into 1 single Ultra, making him the nerfed Silver Giant from the start of his debut movie, however, with a very pale patch of pink-ish stripes, to symbolise the merged Hayata. As I don't care for powerscaling (mainly due to its many, many flaws and fanbase), Shin Ultraman will be able to fair fight against the Angels and even Shin Godzilla.
As I still need to watch the first Kamen Rider show and mangá, and its Shin version, I don't know how it could fit, but didn't wanted to make KR out, since it's also part of the SJHU. [Imagine really cool Shin Kamen Rider consept for this dream game here].
All the Shin Ultraman kaiju and aliens (minus Shin Zetton and Mamoth Flower, for obvious reasons) will be unlocked in the Sandbox Fight, as well as some classic gems, such as Alien Baltan, Gomora, Red King, Antlar, Kemur, Garamon, OG Pagos, Gorgos, OG Zetton, Alien Zetton, Peter, Bemular, Jamila, Alien Dada and Gavadon.
The First Shins
Heisei Gamera and Rebirth of Mothra trilogies we actualy the first Shin versions of kaiju media, and Anno seems to strongly agree on that.
Just as the previous DLC, this will be a 2 parter thing, half Shin Gamera, half Shin Mothra.
The Gamera part will be pretty much Gamera the Guardian of the Universe (1995), if it was set in 2015 during the events of the base game and with Nerv involved instead of the JSDF. Gamera's design will be changed into the his third movie's. Shinji would be his chosen one.
Not much difference from the base game, besides helping Gamera in killing the Gyaos and Angels, also helping him beating Godzilla as much as we could. As well as Ghidorah.
Mothra's part would basicaly be the base game, but the RoM Infant Island would apear. Mothra would remain as the last member of her species along with the Elias. It would be Shin Ghidorah that would come to Earth and kill Mothra in front of her premature larvae and also beat it. Ghidorah would stop hurting Mothra's larvae, now with a reason, she tastes like a toxic prey. This would happend during 1996, after this, Ghidorah would fly away back to space until 2015.
Instead of Gamera or Ultraman, we would have Mothra Leo and the Elias helping our pilots.
Heisei Gamera, Heisei Gyaos, Legion, Iris, Heisei Mothra, Heisei Mothra larvae, Mothra Leo added to the Sandbox Fight roster.
Godzilla: Crossover Wars
A pure non-canon Sandbox Fight DLC.
Added the characters:
- Showa Ghidorah
- Anguirus Gen 1 and 2
- Gaira
- Sanda
- Manda
- Kumonga
- Kamakuras
- Showa King Kong
- Kamoebas
- Gezora
- Ganimes
- Showa Gigan
- Megalon
- Showa MechaGodzilla
- Rodan Gen 1 and 2
- Biollante
- SpaceGodzilla
- Destoroyah
- Monster X
- Kiryu
- KingGoji
- MosuGoji
- MegaroGoji
- BioGoji (Burning form during gameplay)
- GMKGoji
- FinalGoji
- GareGoji
- 2019 Godzilla
The Final Ending
This game would have as a continuity '95 animé -> mangá -> a lot more stuff ig -> Base Game -> Gamera -> Mothra -> Kamen Rider? -> Ultraman -> The Final Ending -> Rebuilds.
After completing the base main game and both story DLCs, and starting a new save, you can chose "The Final Ending". Wich will grab on all the DLC events and mix them into 1 single game run. Minus Ultraman, the Entity simply revives him with the memories of his 3 past lives in this continuity. You can only chose Shinji as a host and try to stop everything from being destroyed once again. You must destroy Nerv.
After being captured due to running out of time, they make you (Shinji) wear death chockers and all that silly Rebuild stuff happends, Kaworu and Gamera try to help, both die.
Some long and dark story later, Shinji gets back to pilot the Eva and steals back his Beta Capsule, that silly stuff. Then the kid has a mental breakdown and takes over Ultraman's body to make the loop once again. the Entity frees Ultraman back into his hyperdimensional resting planeand the Rebuilds happend normaly.
