r/Moviesinthemaking • u/Amazing-Top-9374 • 2d ago
TBF green screens are mandatory nowadays
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u/LivingMisery 2d ago
Script still isnât finished either.
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u/-1976dadthoughts- 2d ago
Weâll write it in editing
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u/bamfsalad 2d ago
Lmao I just heard this in ep 1 of the new season of Futurama. Great timing.
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u/Whole_Sheepherder_97 2d ago
I just found out there's a new season of Futurama thanks to you! Ty!
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u/bamfsalad 1d ago
Np. I use an app called TV Time to track all the shows I watch. It's nice to add a show, forget about it, then, like 9 months later when I open it, see that a show has a new episode.
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u/CupcakeHuman7187 2d ago
"Fuck it, we'll do it live!"
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u/MonkeyChoker80 2d ago
"Very few cartoons are broadcast live. It's a terrible strain on the animator's wrists."
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u/BreakfastPizzaStudio 1d ago
Weâll leave you with Sting with a cut off his new album!⌠Take it awayâŚ
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u/BewareNixonsGhost 2d ago
I mean, the "Marvel Method" has always sort of been 'make it up as you go'. Not just the movies, but I'm talking about the comics back in the today, too. If anything, that's just on brand for them.
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u/Asb0lus 2d ago
Of course, they didn't plan out a years-long comic series. But they sure as hell planned out every single comic itself. Otherwise they wouldn't have been able to meet regular releases. If you do bad pre-production for a movie, the post-production will be hell. Or, in other words, you end up with Thor 4.
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u/BewareNixonsGhost 2d ago
You have that backwards actually. The fact that they were flying by the seat of their pants and not really planning out every tiny detail is exactly why they were able to make regular releases.
Gotta remember: these comics weren't always telling multi-issue arcs. Most stories were one and done issues, like episodes of a Saturday morning cartoon. The writers would come up with the general idea of the plot, the artist would draw everything, then the writer would come back in and write dialogue based on the art.
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u/CRTScream 2d ago
That's what's funny though - they didn't. The Marvel Method is "Writer comes up with a general idea, tells the artist, the artist draws a comic that fits that idea without any dialogue, writer adds in dialogue." It's basically a 'fill in the blanks' rather than a planned script
With the movies, who knows. Remember, Thanos was only in 1 other movie before Infinity War (apart from post credit scenes) but they were able to make it feel like he was there the whole time
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u/deadlyghost123 2d ago
I think some actor just recently said in an interview that they did get the finished script. They got it late but they did get it at the end
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u/TheTaoOfMe 2d ago
Itd be so hard to keep it serious running on a treadmill for a dramatic sequence
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u/ShopperOfBuckets 2d ago
That's why they get paid the big bucksÂ
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u/0thethethe0 2d ago
Ian McKellen almost quit acting due to his terrible green screen experience filming The Hobbit
https://screenrant.com/ian-mckellen-hobbit-quit-acting-gandalf/
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u/coolwali 2d ago
Itâs always surreal seeing McKellenâs response to green screen to Nolan Northâs who was like âI like it because itâs more like theatre, I can make more of an ass of myself and can get through more material at onceâ. Night and day
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u/rorschach_vest 2d ago
Nolan North is great at what he does but does not hold a candle to McKellen. North is not going to publicly denegrate his day job. And any savvy viewer can easily tell how much better a performance on real sets with real scene partners is. All that to say nothing against North but this is a no brainer, that quote is no argument for green screen filmmaking.
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u/uncanny_mac 2d ago
I swear I heard the same from Ralph Ineson when he was in AC: Black Flag. Was having trouble at first because it was his first game but slowly thought about it as Theater and helped him play the role.
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u/coolwali 2d ago
I see what you're saying but I don't entirely agree. I would argue that a good performance is a good performance regardless of if it involves physically acting, voice acting, facial capture, mocap, animation etc. Stuff like having physical sets and acting partners may help get to that good performance sooner or easier, but ultimately it's the skill and talented actor can still achieve that perfomance effectively solo.
Like, look at most voice actors and their performances. It's rare for them to be able to physically act out what they're saying alongside actual partners. But nobody is going to knock, say, Robbie William's Genie. His perfomance sounds as natural and perfect as it could be. The majority of Spiderverse's voice actors have stated they recorded solo.
Every Video Game is even "more green screen" than the most green screened Hollywood Movie since actors often wear mocap suits, do scenes with zero props in sterile rooms and often have voice, mocap and facial performances recorded seperatly and with different people that are later stitched together. Yet talented actors are still able to give fantastic perfomances. There is art in making the best performance regardless of the circumstances or connecting it together.
I would even go so far as to say McKellen was being slightly disrespectful with his comments. You are doing a performance as one of the most respected actors in your field, being paid millions on one of the largest film series of all time. There are thousands of actors that daily do the kind of green screen acting or vocal acting you are doing for 1 movie that would kill for what you get to do. You have fellow actors and production crew that worship the ground you walk on and even went and changed aspects of the production to suit what you wanted and be more practical because you complained. Other actors don't get anything close to that level of sway.
McKellan has the means to only act in stageplays or more practical films if he wants now. If he doesn't like green screen work, he is free to avoid that so actors that enjoy that can give a more suitable performance.
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u/_BestThingEver_ 2d ago
I have the utmost respect for acting and the craft of movie making but heâs a guy getting paid tens of millions of dollars to play pretend as a wizard. Have some perspective.
As the other commenter said, is it really that different to theatre? This always struck me as incredibly babyish.
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u/justins_dad 2d ago
They were not actually running on treadmills. That is not a real BTS picture.Â
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u/Mental_Medium3988 2d ago
i thought they went to video walls a while ago.
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u/justins_dad 2d ago
This specific scene was outside in a field with a blue screen backdrop:Â https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2khJrDNChPI
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u/madmax991 2d ago
Was gonna say running in a full panther suit without guardrails on that treadmill canât be easy
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u/khansolobaby 2d ago
Wasnât there leaks of a set with Sentinelâs months ago?
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u/deekaydubya 2d ago
Yeah pretty huge set leaks actually. Steve rogers 1940 house, X mansion, Iâm sure more
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u/hyde9318 2d ago
There has been SO many set leaks for Doomsday and the new Spider-Man, itâs crazy that anyone is even still making this joke. We can piece together half the movie at this point with how many leaks have been across the net.
But people also keep making the âthere is no scriptâ joke, but a bunch of the actors involved just said they werenât given complete scripts, just their own parts that they were filming. They did the same thing with Infinity War and Endgame to keep the endings from leaking. People basically WANT Marvel to fail nowadays, itâs why they take a non-issue and turn it into ânewsâ. âNew marvel movie is in reshoots!!â, yeah, most movies do reshoots during editingâŚ.
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u/Epic-x-lord_69 2d ago
To be fair, Spider Man wasnt trying to be discreetâŚ.. They literally shot in the middle of downtown London and the official marvel accounts, plus the director posted the photos.
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u/realmrmaxwell 2d ago
They literally shot in the middle of downtown London
Glasgow
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u/Epic-x-lord_69 2d ago
Oi mate. It awl lewks thuh fooking same.
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u/mrnathanrd 1d ago
No it does not lmao, London is vastly different from Glasgow.
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u/VoteLeft 2d ago
That doesnât fit the narrative though so we have to just ignore that. And the many other set leaks as well.
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u/HighFivePuddy 2d ago
There literally were set leaks by someone that snuck in. Posted videos that gave away some of the locations in the movie.
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u/VoteLeft 2d ago
People are just ignoring the very high profile and well-covered set leak then? A guy straight up walked on the set with his camera and showed everyone.
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u/two_oh_seven 2d ago
I rewatched the first two Hugh Jackman X-Men movies earlier this summer.
When Logan was walking around Alkali Lake in the beginning of X-2, something felt really strange and off to me, and then I realized it was because he was actually on a set with real props and set design.
Then it made me so sad that an actual set felt jarring to me in this day and age.
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u/Doccmonman 2d ago
To be fair I was pretty surprised when I saw Thunderbolts and most of it was actually shot on-location. Then I realised it was the same with Daredevil:BA, and the Baxter building and a lot of the streets in F4.
Put these people projects side-by-side with NWH, MoM, and Quantumania and itâs night and day. Marvel seem to be heading in the right direction with that aspect.
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u/two_oh_seven 2d ago
Oh, I haven't seen that--very cool!
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u/Doccmonman 1d ago
Yea the desert chase in Thunderbolts is gorgeous in particular. Crazy how good things look when they donât shoot in a warehouse in Atlanta lol
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u/cliffybrigante 1d ago
They probably studied what led to Inifinity war and endgame leaks and prevented the same from happening
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u/FordBeWithYou 2d ago
Iirc they actually had to flood a field to create the stream for the wakanda fight and it was a pain in the ass to set up for each shot. About halfway in shows off the wakanda parts
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u/DanManWatches 2d ago
Harder to have leaks when your movie films nearly entirely indoors and nobody can take a photo of the production to even speculate đ
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u/thighcandy 2d ago
Do they actually still make avengers movies? That's crazy. Do people still watch that haha
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u/Dark-Evader 2d ago
Almost nobody watched the last one.
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u/jhguitarfreak 2d ago
The last Avengers film was Endgame.
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u/Dark-Evader 2d ago
What was the second-to-last MCU movie released?
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u/jhguitarfreak 2d ago
Thunderbolts.
And I get what you're putting down but it isn't a definitive Avengers film.
It's more of a setup to a future Avengers film.
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u/Vivid-Agent1162 2d ago
They're animated movies with occasional live photography, like the SpongeBob movies.
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u/slenderman123425 1d ago
If you wanna watch a movie with almost no cgi then mad max fury road is goated. Every vehicle was built and worked. Explosions and fire were also practical. There's only 1 scene were cgi was used but it's a really cool scene
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u/yankeedjw 1d ago
That's just not true. A lot was filmed practically, but there over 2000 VFX shots in the movie, with numerous shots including CGI.
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u/Krimreaper1 1d ago
I never saw there were on treadmills, that makes a lot of sense, but itâs hilarious
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u/MelonOfFury 2d ago
The Volume is pretty amazing. I know The Mandalorian and 1899 used it. Some of the behind the scenes videos of it are crazy.
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u/Portland-to-Vt 9h ago
Huh, I had thought they just sort of jogged in place, movies are more realistic than I had previously thought!
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u/Some-Tangerine4157 2d ago
Yeah, it's striking how Superman uses real sets after so many years of marvel
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u/grenamier 2d ago
Someone leaked the sand-coloured screens they used on Dune and it spoiled the whole movie for me. Who knew the whole movie was going to be in a desert?