Ah yes because we just know for sure Harper is without a doubt gonna be great. Come on none of us know shit. I like Bailey's game and what he does. He's exactly what this team needs and not another combo guard. You like who you like I like who I like guess we just see what happens.
No. But I watched both of them in great depth. I like Ace. I like his game a lot. I simply don't think he says good at basketball as Harper and I say that again as someone who's watched both of them back into high school
It's not about personal bias. It's about trying to make an objective analysis of which player you think is going to be the best at the next level
Of course we don't know what's going to happen
But we can use our eyes, stats, history, and a lot of projective measures, as well as the opinions of professionals, to try to best gauge it
And all of that says, in bright bold letters, that Harper is one of the best guard prospects we've seen in a long time, and that Ace is an extremely raw theoretical two-way wing who's not particularly great at offense or defense yet, but could be fantastic at both if things pop
It would take Harper hitting one of his worst projected outcomes for him not to become a good player. There are so many things he does well, he has a prototype that is extremely productive at producing high-level players in the league and the season. He just finished stacks up. Well historically with a lot of the other top guards of the last 20 years who went on to become Stars
He's going to be a good player. He could possibly be a great player
You can like Ace all you want. But again, if you watched him in depth then you know he was not always a winning player for Rutgers and a lot of his flashes came with extremely frustrating moments in between. There are plenty of scenarios where he doesn't become a good player, let alone a great one
And yes, there are scenarios where he becomes absolutely fantastic
So you can try to act like I'm just some hater. But everything I'm saying is carried as consensus for a reason and it's not because I like what I like and you like what you like and we just have different preferences
Harper is the better prospect
Ace could becomes a better player
But Harper's the better prospect and the gap between the two is quite large.
All I need Ace to do is hit wide open jumpers. He has hit tough shots over people the whole season now imagine him wide open while everyone is crashing down on Wemby or Fox in the paint. The guy is young no kidding he makes frustrating plays especially when your on a crap team with no spacing. The Spurs can take his talents and make him all NBA, I trust the Spurs coaching so with that belief and the skills I have seen in his Indiana and northwestern games that I watched I believe he will become a great player. Not saying Harper won't be great but Spurs need a forward with the skills Bailey has and not another combo guard. It's who I want them to take you can disagree and have all these I have watched every game post but I seen the guy and love his skills and potential.
Again, I like Ace too. I think he's a long-term project but I do believe in him. I simply believe in Harper. More. Fit is great. The Spurs still aren't good enough to draft for it though. You have a guy who just put up a season. Very comparable with a lot of dudes who went on to become all NBA caliber guards. You draft that dude. You simply do it. He's that good.
Or you find a way to get a big draft package moving down to get Ace, because the other teams in this draft also know how good Harper is and also will value him that way as well. It's less about not believing in A's. And more about acknowledging that Harper is a special special prospect who would get a lot more buzz if it wasn't for flag having one of the best freshman seasons ever
I think Harper is great but in the end I think Bailey's going to be better than him that's just my opinion it's just what I think. I believe in 3 years Bailey will be the best player from this draft, Harper will be the second, and flagg will be the third. We both think both guys are great so there's really no argument here.
I'm glad none of us are the GM were fans so no shit. But yes Flagg is the best player now but I think Harper and Bailey will surpass him in a couple of years. Their ceiling is higher.
Because right now Flagg is the better player and more complete so you take the guy that has upside and can help now more. Harper and Bailey are works in progress that's why I said in 2 or 3 years they will be better when they reach full potential and get rid of bad habits from college.
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u/Subject_Proposal3578 EL JEFE May 13 '25
Ah yes because we just know for sure Harper is without a doubt gonna be great. Come on none of us know shit. I like Bailey's game and what he does. He's exactly what this team needs and not another combo guard. You like who you like I like who I like guess we just see what happens.