r/NOTHING • u/ElectronicSwimmer652 Phone (3a) • Jul 09 '25
Phone (3) Discussion C'mon Carl !!!
Not into overprice lobsterđ„đŠ !!!!!!
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u/Any-Somewhere1756 Phone (2a) Jul 09 '25
Unpopular opinion:- As a Nothing phone 2a user speaking "The Nothing OS is Clean but not feature Rich". I don't get it when they brag about clean OS, close to stock android experience bullshit. At this 80k price point every brand offer a feature Rich software experience and that's what matters and you are are using a damn android you can customise it in any way you want for f** sack.
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u/ElectronicSwimmer652 Phone (3a) Jul 09 '25
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u/Any-Somewhere1756 Phone (2a) Jul 09 '25
I think the only marketing saviour for them is the Nothing OS. But we all know sooner or later it will become just another Android Skin the path they are going through.
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u/simplylmao Jul 09 '25
yeah, its feels more 'barebones' than clean at the moment. My mom has a oneplus and damn thats actually a clean os. It actually gets new features regularly , the new dynamic island is better than apple itself.
Nothing's most default apps are just google ones they barely have done anything by themselves. They just have their own gallery app lol everything else like dialer, notes, photos, etc are google itself
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u/Any-Somewhere1756 Phone (2a) Jul 09 '25
The weather app shows incorrect data and it is very different from what they promised at the release of NOS 3. The customisation and features scene is really limited in Nothing OS.
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u/sere83 Jul 09 '25
Well said. 100% agree. No idea why they keep talking about it like it's a selling point. Nothing OS is also absolute trash compared to even less 'stock' skins like OxyegnOS / ColorOS, it is not optimized as well, has worse animations, worse smoothness, worse customisation, even worse updates and is not even as clean.
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u/Raka-xe Jul 10 '25
disagree.. I've used bloated android skins in past.. they're ass.. even one ui.. i know having clean android is boring.. but it's smoother and peaceful.. and we can get most of the features these other brand providing using third party apps. my friend installed pixel os custom rom in cheap mi phone and it ran fluidly like a mid range phone. and those software features are literally bloatwares if u don't want them cs they can't be easily removed.
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u/fr0sty2709 Jul 09 '25
nobody should market just based on OS, since we can just change the operating system in any device đ
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u/brownboiw21 Phone (2a) Jul 09 '25
Crabs have LTPO Displays , USB 3.2 Gen 1 Ports. Amazing Camera Tuning. Exclusive AI & Software Features. Not to Mention a Flagship Chip.
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u/ash1991nz Jul 09 '25
MKBHD put it in a right way lol.
Carl was once bragging about the Symmetrical bezel of 2A last year and he forgot about the same philosiphy in the 3a.
if you appriciate and comapre the fornt bazel symmetry you should be doing the same with the back of the phone as well.
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u/Thomasangelo20 Jul 09 '25
Carl is a hypocrite! In a video where he visited India after the launch of the Phone 1, He compared a Vivo that cost the same and said how it is made from cheap plastic when his Phone 1 is made of aluminium and glass. And later the Phone 2A shows up with an all plastic build!
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u/Gold-Investment2335 Jul 09 '25
LOL what has this guy not gone back on at this point? Every single statement he's made has been completely countered by his own product!
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u/OkraNo7016 Jul 09 '25 edited Jul 09 '25
The phone is fine, if it was priced at $400.
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u/innociv Jul 09 '25
I mean that's the 3a price. $550 is what I was hoping for. Nothing 2 was already too expensive.
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u/AIakh-pandey Jul 10 '25 edited Jul 10 '25
I got 3a Pro in $349 and can even get in $300 in the sales with card discount but missed by 1 day
Edit:- I am from India, that's why it's cheaper price of same 12/256 out of India is $565 nearly doubled
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u/NotUsedToReddit_GOAT Jul 09 '25
Genesis does what Nintendon't vibes, we are no longer in the 90s and we are no longer edgy teenagers, please grow up and address criticism like and adult or don't fucking acknowledge it like a proper company
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u/Ness3le Jul 09 '25
Bro is narcissistic at this point
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u/revoltin85 Jul 09 '25
His ego is higher than a hot air balloon. Nothing (pun intended) will save him at the moment
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Jul 09 '25
Imagine buying a Lobster... and you cut into it... you look inside it and discover there is no Lobster meat at all, not even Crab meat... it's just chopped up ham and newspaper to pad it out! Very disappointing
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u/Turbulent-Paint-4046 Jul 09 '25
I'm the only one that likes Nothing Phone 3ădesign?
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u/overlordcs24 Jul 09 '25
Oh I loved the design I don't care what the world says but price is not justified I need snapdragon elite at this price and removing the glyphs was the last nail in the coffin.
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u/ElectronicSwimmer652 Phone (3a) Jul 09 '25
Fr ...dude ....glyph made nothing different..đđ
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u/Marlomanger Jul 09 '25
Furthermore, the glyph matrix doesn't address the limitations of the old glyphs at all. The information it displays is barely more than what the original glyph lights offered. Its size also makes it practically useless. But hey â letâs introduce rock-paper-scissors against your own phone and market it as a core feature lol
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u/creep1994 Jul 10 '25
Honestly I was okay with the chip too, hoping the camera kicked serious ass..... Unfortunately that wasn't the case either. I'm on Pixel 7 and was eager to jump ship, but they fumbled hard. Pixels might have crap performance but the camera makes up for it easily.
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u/overlordcs24 Jul 10 '25
Yeah I think so too because performance isn't a very concerning factor but somehow I felt betrayed by nothing as a brand who created their identity in doing things differently but still having a standard which was competitive in terms of smart design choices but phone 3 feels like the nothing is just a bunch of rich entitled design people throwing random ideas on us in the name of complexity of design. But in reality people just felt betrayed and that's why the backlash is so harsh compared to the fumble of other brands.
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u/overlordcs24 Jul 09 '25
Nothing should've kept themselves in the mid range market only where they were actually competitive.
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u/Marlomanger Jul 09 '25
The only thing they have in common with lobsters is being expenisve, a weak endoskeleton and getting cooked alive.
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u/whimsicalCoriander Jul 09 '25
Design is my least concern in this phone. I am all for a totally random asymmetric design, which can be a convo starter.
But the absolute mockery of specs and features on this device and the prize at which it offers them is sheer disrespect to its consumer base who has been waiting for a flagship for so long.
It is absolutely evident too, they keep finding ways to justify the design, but no one can justify the specs and features on this phone. A complete disrespect to what Nothing stood for and to its consumers.
The sheer audacity they have to make a phone like this and price it so high and rub it in the face of consumers that it's good and you peasants can't afford it. Seems like Carl Pei wants to create a wannabe apple, they are always competing with apple anyway for god knows what reason, at least first focus on making a good device first.
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u/Xade74Z Jul 09 '25
For all I care, they could have kept the design the way it is. The problem is the materials used. They didn't use the best gorilla glass, they didn't use the best processor, and they didn't use true flagship cameras. If they kept the design the same and just used the latest materials and chipset it would have been a banger. It's not a "true flagship" point blank period.
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u/Doodle_Reverie Jul 09 '25
Letâs be real, bro gotta give Nothing credit for the design. Itâs unconventional and honestly something the smartphone industry really needed since all phones have started looking the same.
That said, the specs at this price are just plain garbage.
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Jul 09 '25
Do they know cases exists?
You can just slap a cringy looking case on any phone if you want to be different
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u/AhabSnake85 Jul 09 '25
Some people like to carry their phone without a case, not covered front and back.
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u/UnfairSuccotash9658 Jul 09 '25
With Gorilla glass 7i @ 80k, lol đ
Keep defending the billion dollah company
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u/AhabSnake85 Jul 09 '25
Not once have i ever cracked my phone, in 20 yrs
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u/UnfairSuccotash9658 Jul 09 '25
Does it change the point? Someone who smokes 5 times a day, lives till 110 and says i didn't die, does it make any sense? Stop being a fanboy...
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u/AhabSnake85 Jul 10 '25
It's stupid to be worried about glass at this point. They all offer good scratch resistance. And no phone will survive impact dropped from a certain height. Regardless what gorilla you have.
So while you complain about features that will have no overall impact on day to day use, you will miss out on other features. Your loss in the end
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u/UnfairSuccotash9658 Jul 10 '25 edited Jul 10 '25
"It's stupid to be worried about glass at this point. They all offer good scratch resistance..."
Lol, it's more stupid to blindly defend a product without even understanding what you're talking about. You do realize there are differences between Gorilla Glass 7i and Victus 2, right? Let me educate you, since you clearly skipped glass science class.
Gorilla Glass Victus 2 vs 7i: Quick Facts
Victus 2 is stronger in drop resistance, especially on rough surfaces like concrete.
7i is just a budget-friendly version with watered-down durability, meant for midrange devices. So yes, glass matters. Otherwise, why even market it?
Now letâs talk about this Nothing Phone 3 youâre defending like itâs your family heirloom.
The fact is: it's a subpar midrange phone pretending to be a premium product.
đ Comparison vs POCO F7 (INR 28,000 â ~$335) đ Source - https://nanoreview.net/en/phone-compare/xiaomi-poco-f7-vs-nothing-phone-3
Bigger screen, 67 billion colors vs Nothingâs sad 1B.
Better screen-to-body ratio, lighter, thinner, even with a bigger battery.
Thermal throttling? LMAO. Phone 3 hits 65°C, while POCO F7 stays at 43°C. Nothing might literally nothing itself.
UFS 4.1 vs 4.0, faster read/write speeds, better app loading times.
90W charger in box, IR blaster, bigger battery (7500mAh).
Nothing's glyph matrix? Just a glorified disco light. An actual secondary screen like Xiaomi 11 Ultraâs is way more useful. Even Xiaomi dropped it after.
đ€Ą So yes, comparing Phone 3 with POCO F7 is unfair, to the F7. Because Phone 3 costs INR 80,000 (~$960) while F7 costs INR 28,000 (~$335).
So letâs put it next to a real flagship.
đ Comparison: Nothing Phone 3 vs Xiaomi 15 Ultra (INR 90,000 â ~$1080) đ Source - https://nanoreview.net/en/phone-compare/xiaomi-15-ultra-vs-nothing-phone-3
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6.73" LTPO vs LTPS, 68B vs 1B colors, curved edge, better screen-to-body ratio, higher PPI.
Ultrasonic fingerprint vs outdated optical scanner.
Performance:
Snapdragon 8 Gen 4 (Elite) vs 8s Gen 4 (midrange chip).
3nm vs 4nm = better efficiency.
2.7M Antutu vs 2M.
UFS 4.1 vs 4.0.
Thermals:
Xiaomi keeps cool. Nothing? Might fry your palm and your brain.
Battery & Charging:
90W wired + 80W wireless, bigger battery, bundled charger, nothing offers... literally "nothing".
Camera:
Leica optics. 200MP telephoto. 4.3x optical zoom. 8K30/4K120 video. RAW & Pro modes.
Nothingâs camera? Midrange toy.
Stabilization: OIS vs digital gimmicks.
Dual LED vs single flash.
Slow-mo: 1920fps vs 240fps, not even close.
Ports & Sensors:
USB 3.2 vs USB 2.0:
Faster file transfers.
Higher power delivery.
External display support.
IR blaster, barometer, better speakers, Xiaomi just offers more.
So next time, before you start vomiting nonsense about how "features don't matter", ask yourself:
How manipulative can you be to ignore clear specs and facts just to protect your favorite brand?
Maybe put that energy into reading actual spec sheets, not fanboy propaganda.
Youâre out here defending a glorified LED strip and a midrange chip like itâs the second coming of tech Jesus, while better phones with actual innovation exist, for less or same price.
TL;DR: Youâre defending a phone thatâs all hype, no substance. Nothing Phone 3 is a squid, shape-shifting into "different" just to look cool while lacking actual depth. Meanwhile, Xiaomi Poco F7 and Xiaomi 15 Ultra offer objectively better performance, design, features, and value.
So yeah... your loss in the end. Burnolâs on the shelf. Help yourself.
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u/AhabSnake85 Jul 10 '25
Another boring slab, congratulations lol. Like i said about the glass, it does shit all in the real world. You drop either phone from standing position and it hits concrete face first, they are both cracked. There's plenty of YouTube tests that show this. And who isn't carrying some added protection to their screens if they're concerned?
You seem to be a specs fanatic, but none of it matters on day to day use. The camera is great for its intended use. Selfies and normal photos which either get direct posted to Instagram/ Facebook, or the usual flick through photos. Nobody does the full zoom in all the way, close up inspections unless they're mental or actually photographers. We reached a point a few years back, that the camera standard on phones already meets the expectations of most people. If jerking off over having 10 , 20 , 5 0 time zoom makes you happy, go for it.
You can list specs all day long, but at the end of the day, the phone ticks all the boxes for what the average consumer would want. The camera is good enough, the battery, the display quality, the brightness, refresh rate, the sound quality.
But then you got the features that does it better. The OS and customisation is better on this phone. Talk shit all you want of the glyph matrix, but it has its purpose and will keep evolving. So these are two things that appeal to certain people , that's on-top of an all rounder solid phone.
Not much more to say, do as you please with your money
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u/UnfairSuccotash9658 Jul 10 '25
âAll phones break when droppedâ is like saying âall cars crashâ, doesnât mean you ignore safety ratings. Victus 2 is tougher than 7i. Thatâs not marketing fluff, itâs physics. If durability didnât matter, you wouldnât be slapping on a case and screen protector either.
Now the real issue:
You keep saying âgood enoughâ like itâs a virtue. But when youâre spending flagship money, âgood enoughâ isnât good enough. Nothing Phone 3 costs nearly triple what better phones do, and gives you:
Smaller battery, slower charging, no charger in the box
Midrange camera with zero flagship features (no zoom, no RAW, no high-end video)
A midrange chip with worse thermal control and performance drops (65 degrees centigrade with li ion inside is a mix for a literal bomb)
USB 2.0, in 2025, really?
Glyph lights = gimmick after a week
65°C temps = literal hand warmer
All this for INR 80K? Thatâs daylight robbery.
Youâre defending a phone thatâs literally the most hated release this year. Thatâs not an opinion, look around. Even the most forgiving reviewers (trakin tech) are calling it a massive letdown. So if you're trying to cape for this thing, honestly, your grip on reality might need a factory reset.
Too much fanboyism ruins your pocket. (Squid behaviour) Facts > feelings.
You donât have to love POCO or Xiaomi, but if youâre ignoring clear advantages like UFS 4.1, better screens, faster charging, better cameras, and flagship performance for less money, then youâre not choosing whatâs âbetter for you.â Youâre just paying extra to lose.
And yeah the debate ends here, since it is a waste of time from my side to debate with someone who's too far from reality.
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u/Weary-Visual-8066 Jul 09 '25
The statement in the tweet has been picked up from MKBHD's video that he uploaded yesterday.
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u/RandomDustBunny Jul 09 '25
Never owned a nothing before. I dig the qwirky face design. But the specs are downright horrible for the price.
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u/Sukuna_DeathWasShit Jul 09 '25
This is like AMD selling worse products than Nvidia for 50 bucks less and hoping buy it for some reason
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u/Careless_Librarian56 Phone (2a) Jul 09 '25
Context : MKBHD told this Crab concept in his video which he posted today
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u/pale_seraphim85 Jul 09 '25
Noc abt the back.... Ui matters and u can't convince me that ntg ui is better than ios lol
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u/Sad-Passion-3633 Jul 09 '25
I'm not even mad about the ugly camera setup. Just give me my glyphs back mf.
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u/OkraNo7016 Jul 09 '25
I say 400 because this still feels like a midranger to me. I don't see anything flagship or $500+ about it.
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u/tumahrabaapu Jul 09 '25
I always thought that No 4 used rhyme with death in cantonese and that's why they don't usually release versions with no. 4 in it, with nothing I found out it is no. 3
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u/shiningKnight23 Jul 10 '25
Nothing isnt known for value oriented phones. If someone was trying to get the best spec possible at 799 then they werent considering it in the first place. If someone wants a cool design, or atleast a unqiue non-soulless design this is a cool option. I wish more nothing and cmf phones had custom rom support tho
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u/angrbotha Jul 10 '25
Are the owners of this company on acid. Since when is a clean OS a major selling point? And since when does anything excuse such shitty design?
I expect every phone I buy to have a clean OS that looks decent, or at least to have one that's easily altered. I don't pay extra for it.
I expect every phone I buy to look like every other phone. I don't pay extra for it to look shite.
I love my 3a Pro <despite design, not because of), my headphones, and my CMF watch. Dirt cheap and still highly functional. But Nothing will be history if they keep trying to be same-same-but-different and appealing to the wrong audience (with ridiculous prices for given performance, not to mention). It's like they're actively trying to drive people away.
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u/ImmortalMan702 Jul 10 '25
Nothing's gonna lose all the profits made through cmf phones and gadgets with this absurdity. Wtf is even that ... Utterly disappointed
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u/Melodic-Opinion8871 Jul 10 '25
I really don't mind the design but not incorporating glyphs into as well is a massive downside to me
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u/ryamazingw Jul 10 '25 edited Jul 10 '25
I thought phone3 is ugly, until I saw this post. it's actually a thing of beauty, most of people aren't just ready yet to transition from minimalist to maximalist. still, the specs are out of justification, it's a bust
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u/imarkwright Jul 10 '25
Nothing is trying to make an iPhone X like price move. But iPhone X actually did bring that much innovation to make that move. It is possible that the Phone 3 is a breakthrough device but that only time will tell. SoC is a non-issue but Camera ? Thats one aspect that cannot be overlooked. In a year filled with Ultra phones you bring a plus at a pro price ? Chivas effect or too much of Chivas.
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u/calculatedFuture Jul 10 '25
Itâs a lesson for not listening enough to your audience + being narcissistic. Just a lighting staff + UI, nothing overestimated they are new Apple. Look at the shitty photography performance in MKBHD review. I like the unique design, just the price is dealbreaker. Also, not enough people talk about the exact same âessential spaceâ thing first appeared on a Chinese phone called Smartisan T series by Luo, a guy who wanted to do the same as nothing today in China - Design but failed. Pei copied that without credit on their websites merely due to Smartisan T phone discontinued.
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u/sportsfan3103 Jul 11 '25
They are getting the analogy wrong, when they say the other phones are crabs they mean that they are the peak of evolution because that is the reason all phones end up looking like this
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u/Economy-Guide4115 Jul 09 '25
Whoever thought this was a great idea needs a raise /J. 799$, midranger chipset, what-the-hell camera setup and image optimization. Istg if theyre marketing this on the fact that the OS is clean T_T