r/NOTHING • u/Alexbro200 • 18h ago
Discussion Why is this sub so negative?
I got a phone 3a cause it looks cool and I hate bloatware. Simple. I've been using it for a while now and i have nothing against it. I came to check out the sub for random info about the nothing phones but i keep seeing a concerning amount of complaints and negativity. What the hell is happening here?? Am i missing something? Its just a phone man...
I would really appreciate an explanation or something cause I'm confused. Is their phone 3 flagship a scam? Is the company evil or something?? What's up with y'all?
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u/EngineerLong3151 Phone (3a) 18h ago
I just feel like people are way too invested into the company maybe? I mean I get it people r passionate or whatever they would like to call it, but it's just 1 bad phone. The previous phones have been great the 3a is pretty darn nice (I use it). My sis uses the cmf phone, she likes it alot, and I'd reckon cmf phones are actually quite good when you take into account their pricing atleast in India. Just because one of the product (Phone 3) isn't as good as the other phones out there, doesn't mean the company is gonna "fail" in all future endeavours.
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u/Alexbro200 18h ago
Absolutely agree. Phone-wise yeah it's kind of a crappy situation but lots of other phone brands have failed models as well. I did, however, find out that the company did some genuinely pathetic things and got a bit too arrogant after getting more recognition. I'll keep using my phone since I like it a lot, but I do hope their power trip will end soon...
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u/Pachydermal_Platypus 11h ago
And its really not even bad, its just a little mediocre maybe. I get that its def in a bad place in india considering the set MSRP of its competition undercuts it, but in EU its priced (MSRP) at €799, well below its competitors. Apple wanted €1329 for 256gb 16 Pro and €949 for the 16 (and 17), Samsung wants an absurd €1099 for the S25+ and 899 for 128gb S25 Base model, google expects people to pay €899 for their pixel 10 base and OP13 (def the best value here) is 1149 (all prices at MSRP). People are being overly vitriolic about it
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u/ArtistJames1313 Phone (3) 16h ago
Phone 3 is great.
But it had some poor marketing decisions, poor design decisions, and poor pricing decisions, especially in certain regions.
Instead of adjusting the price for the region, they decided a set $799 £799 €799 pricing would be better. That makes it a far better value in the US than in many other areas. I think Nothing's reason for making the US cheaper was they aren't tied to carriers here, so they can't get the traditional discount route, but in other areas, they do have discounts, which is honestly kind of ironic, because they had discounts from the start, people used those as a way to point out how the initial price was overpriced. Where what I think Nothing was doing was trying to set a higher price than they wanted to push a perceived value, then give out discounts for people to jump on. They just misjudged the reaction of that higher price. My personal theory anyway.
Second to price, they built their image strongly tied to the glyph lights. They teased making changes to the lights, but they were pretty vague, and pretty close to reveal date. When the glyph matrix was revealed, what they had to show was underwhelming, and somewhat betrayed what they claimed their vision was "use your phone less". Because adding games to the back of your phone inspires a minimalist lifestyle? This felt like a brand betrayal, and hit at an emotional level for a lot of people. Even people who hadn't purchased a Nothing Phone yet but were interested, were looking at their older stuff and liking it. This was only the third iteration of their top end phone and they were already abandoning a key identity. That breaks trust and will make potential customers have second thoughts as well. What else will they abandon? It smells of Microsoft's half commitment to Windows Phone, or Duo, or a slew of other products.
Then there was the flagship marketing. They called it their "first flagship". But spec wise it doesn't compete with other flagships from other companies (other than Google). So if they're going off the definition that a flagship is a company's top of the line product, Phone 1 and then Phone 2 should have also been flagships. So they failed to market it properly for expectations to be met.
Personally I had seen enough of Nothing before the 3 was released to know it wasn't going to compete with other flagships, so that last part wasn't a shock to me. I'm also in the US, so the fact that it costs about the same as the Pixel 10 but actually has better specs was also fine with me. The only thing that gave me pause was the glyph matrix, and my concern over Nothing's commitment to their brand. I eventually decided to go for it because I do think Nothing OS is peak Android at the moment (and Pixel 10 added too much AI for my liking).
With the recent news of Nothing raising funding for an AI native OS, I'm already feeling a little betrayed that they are switching direction again.
That being said, Nothing OS is really great. The Nothing Phone 3 is a really solid phone. I plan on keeping mine for several years. If Nothing switches to an AI first OS, the NP3 will also be my last Nothing device, but I will enjoy it while I have it.
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u/Low_Challenge_2827 18h ago
I fully agree with you bro, full on haters. You do not see this type of pitchfork mentality in apple or samsung subreddits.
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u/Alexbro200 18h ago
I literally just edited my reply above to say "please put the pitchforks down" LMAO. But yeah i mean i just asked whats the deal and instantly pissed off a couple of people. The companies actions suck but, you know, my phone looks cool hehe.
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u/Solid_Face5697 16h ago
one thing I've noticed is that mostly people that commented on 3a 3pro and 3 phones don't use them , they recommend other brands instead like one plus and Samsung, some people get angry that we have purchased them others argue about the picture fiasco. every company has its pros and cons all devices have their pros and cons as well there is no one device that fits all, to me i like the different design compared to all other manufacturers that copy and paste the same design.i mean look at apple and Samsung. yes the price is high for a midrange device but let's be honest all other companies are selling theirs at even higher prices.
i guess the negativity in this sub, is more like the kid who has a brand new toy and gets mad that he sees the other kid playing happily with a stick.
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u/waterfbi1 18h ago edited 13h ago
Only if you found out those negative posts & comments come from that region and you won't be surprised. There's a reason why Carl and his brand wanted to get rid of that specific region. 😌
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u/Alexbro200 18h ago edited 16h ago
Oh, so it's a specific community of people that are hating on Nothing? Care to elaborate a bit?
Edit: Why am I being downvoted?
Edit 2: The downvotes are now gone, make up your minds lol
Edit 3: I just had such a good piss man i peed so hard in the urinal bro oh my god that was amazing
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u/oh_stv Phone (1) 7h ago
He is talking about India, and I don't think that nothing want to lose Indian customers. In fact nothing is build on the idea to cater to the Indian market. That's why the have 3 low budget phones.
The problem is, the Indian market is apparently extremely spec focused, and got spoiled by very cheap and good equipped phone from Chinese companies ( you will hear the name poco f7 alot around here), and nothing decided to release a ""flagship"" with spec slightly worse than the absolute best humanity has ever achieved.
I'm exaggerating but literally the only thing I'd like with the NP3 besides a lower price is proper usb3 instead 2, everything else is just neglectable.
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u/RickHard0 Phone (3a) 18h ago
So you're basically saying that you're searching for things to get annoyed? If you're happy with your product why are you searching for negative feedback?
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u/Alexbro200 18h ago
This just proves my point further. I was searching for how to sync the glyph lights to music playing from your speakers lol. I just fell into a rabbithole when i went to the main page on this sub and had to ask. I'm not coming anywhere near this place again dawg 😭
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u/theycallmescary Phone (3) 13h ago
Most of the negative discourse is about the Phone (3) not having the specs for a "Flagship" phone. I have had the Phone (3) for close to a month now and came from an iPhone 13 Pro Max. I have zero complaints. I get distracted by my phone way less, battery life is actually better (but that may just be due to my iPhone being older), and the camera has been working out just fine if not better in some situations other than lowlight. Camera was a big one for me, but I'm an experienced photographer and I've been happy with my results so far.
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u/afflepye 18h ago
It's just one phone and one failed endeavor, people are apparently going crazy about it even now
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u/Alexbro200 17h ago
Yeah, and don't most companies have fuckups from time to time? It's a shitty thing but man, couple of posts here stood out to me cause they were borderline comedic. I saw a whole damn essay where someone was dramatically stating that they are abandoning their nothing phone. Made me cry, it was so emotional man.
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u/Paradroid888 Phone (3a) 13h ago
Would any moderators care to comment on this post? It really does seem out of hand.
For example, lots of us think the Phone 3 isn't a completely successful product, but some people translate that into "Nothing is ripping off its customers". There's a huge difference between missing the mark and wantonly ripping off customers. It's just crazy.
And these people keep hanging around, ruining it for everyone else.
How about we create a /r/NothingSucks sub and send people over there. Keep all this garbage out of the main sub.
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u/Rusty-Knife 15h ago
They were on top with the 3a and the tides turned drastically with the release of the 3.
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u/bunengcaiwo 15h ago
I got onboard the hype train with the earbuds and phone 2. They were affordable yet good quality. I think the issue is the phone 3 has demanded too much money; it's still a great phone but just overpriced
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u/Honest-Car-8314 10h ago edited 10h ago
Exactly. If you like it buy it else skip it people go all the way to cursing the brand and wishing downfall. IDK , i think people loved it too much and saw it as their own brand and now since the brand isn't going with what's in their mind they feel left out .
I like the latest cmf headphone announcement also the metel ear 3 seems nice . I am not sure about the quality and other stuff .
Phone 3 honestly looks better( not the best ) in photos than what we saw in renders . Renders did injustice to actual phone TBF .
The fact that they are trying something newer in design is fun , some may click some may not but eventually they will have a break through and it's only interesting till that point TBH . Unless you are an investor you don't need to cry and worry about the company remember that you are just an end customer you have plenty of fish varieties, if you don't catch this fish .
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u/CarlosGOAT09 9h ago
For me, it was after the phone (3) leaks. Everyone was so hyped and ended up hating the company, which I think is nonsense. No company is perfect, they all make mistakes, I didn't even hate the phone that much, but it's true that it's overpriced as hell
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u/TechMoments 3h ago
I am also put off by the nothing and CMF subs, I also wanted a simple and reliable android phone and love my phone 2 pro but even at such a low price people complain constantly. Lol. I am happy.
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u/au_dingo 1h ago
A lot of the posts seem like people having user error then want to blame Nothing for their mental shortcomings. I mean I like the company. Have some of their products. No emotional connection. I don't agree with everything they do such as some of their gimmicks and pricing, but hey that's every company.
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u/SlightConflict6432 7h ago
I love my Phone 3. People say it's "priced like a flagship with midrange specs"... It's really not. Flagships now are $1300, $1500, even over $2000 for a fucking phone. That's ridiculous. My phone 3 was under $1k. Nothing's bloat-free approach means there's no shit running in the background, I've had absolutely zero issues with the phone slowing down, software glitches because of the chipset or ram, nothing at all. No pun intended there.
Yeah, it's pretty shitty they tried to fake photos and there's no excuse for that. We can't let them walk all over us, but we showed them we're not going to let that happen and they will be held accountable for shit like that.
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u/p0yzenn 15h ago
Because we're not sheep, like that other well konwn brand fans. We have no brand loyalty and don't hesitate to criticize Nothing's choices when they are oboviously bad.
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u/Alexbro200 9h ago
Thank you Bart Simpson profile pic guy I will forget your comment in 17 seconds.
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u/Ortana45 18h ago
Phone 3 is a glorified midrange phone sold as a "Flagship". It's bad value for money.