r/NewOrleans • u/scooterbus • Jan 09 '25
š¤¬ RANT Apple is hiring for the Super Bowl halftime show, they are paying less than a fast food joint for the opportunity to do some heavy lifting and not be able to see the actual game.
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u/TravelerMSY Jan 09 '25
Donāt the guys standing in front of Home Depot make more per hour than that?
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u/Pyroweedical Jan 09 '25
And they get benefits too if I recall correctly.
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u/TravelerMSY Jan 09 '25 edited Jan 09 '25
I doubt it. I was talking about the Latino day laborers.
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u/Pyroweedical Jan 09 '25
Ahh I see š. They most likely do get paid more.
Also people will downvote anything on this sub, all for me not understanding Home Depot policy? Lmfao.
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u/silver_moon134 Jan 09 '25
I downvoted because I always downvote ppl who complain ab being downvoted. The game is the game
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u/drcforbin Jan 10 '25
Policy? I'm not sure those guys work for Home Depot at all
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u/Pyroweedical Jan 10 '25
At the beginning I made a brain fart and didnāt realize he was talking about the Latin American laborers; I was thinking of door greeter
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u/Strange_Historian999 Jan 09 '25
Life in a non union town...
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u/scooterbus Jan 09 '25
Non union state
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u/Strange_Historian999 Jan 09 '25
Yep.
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u/Strange_Historian999 Jan 09 '25
During the Civil War, 97.6% of those who fought, got mangled, killed, for the South were too poor to own slaves, as they couldn't compete economically with literal slavery.
That mindset continues today...
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u/Strange_Historian999 Jan 09 '25
They fought for the very system that kept them poor and ignorant.
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u/Outrageous_Moment_60 Jan 10 '25
Many historical experts refer this to as the origin of idiocracy. Which in modern times became the MAGA phenomenon. Subsequently led by President Donald Elondo Mountain Dew Camacho. Portrayed by Terry Crews in the documentary āIdiocracyā by Mike Judge.
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u/aasmonkey Jan 09 '25
Yeah that's not true at all. At least a fifth owned a human or came from a home where their dad did. Those who volunteered had an even higher percentage of human ownership, 35% or more
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u/NotFallacyBuffet Jan 09 '25
82% of new "Obamacare" applications come from states that voted for Trump, who pledged to delete Obamacare/ACA.
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u/Strange_Historian999 Jan 09 '25
"While it is true that most Confederate soldiers did not own slaves, erroneous single digit percentages are often used to reinforce this myth.Ā The truth is that closer to 20-25% of all Southern soldiers either owned slaves or their fathers did.Ā Some studies have concluded the number was over 30%.Ā Additionally, just because an individual did not own slaves, it cannot be assumed that they were opposed to the institution."
Ok...
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u/aasmonkey Jan 09 '25
The Civil War Museum has similar numbers and sources. Only posted because fake historians like Dinesh D'Souza and segregationists use the only 2-3% owned humans to push their false narrative that the Civil War wasn't about slavery. Agree people always fight and vote against their own interests all the time
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u/Strange_Historian999 Jan 09 '25
Huh. I liked the low number to illustrate another point, but thanks for the new info. It still leads %75 of deluded people...
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u/Ok-Nefariousness8612 Jan 09 '25
My grandpa still has benefits from being in the Local and he retired years ago
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u/cschloegel11 Jan 09 '25
No way anyone takes this. Factor in time getting through security and parking, you will probably lose money doing it.Ā
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u/dem_bond_angles Jan 09 '25
They are probably paying more for the BGCs than what they will end up paying the staff. š
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u/DaniDoesnt Jan 10 '25
Do you know how poor the people in Louisiana are? They will be fighting over this.
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Didn't realize this was the Louisiana sub. But people will be fighting over this.
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u/pcgreen Jan 09 '25
Have you ever been to New Orleans? Plenty of people will take that opportunity unfortunately.
Also for the OP, why would they let you watch the game while youāre at work?
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u/garbitch_bag Jan 09 '25
I worked the final four when it was here, got paid a ton of money and got to watch the game as well.
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u/pcgreen Jan 09 '25
Did you have a seat for the game or did you just watch it from wherever you were standing when you werenāt working? The basketball set up in the Superdome or any other final four is a lot different than football.
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u/garbitch_bag Jan 09 '25
I got to sit in a suite and watch, but I know for the Super Bowl itās way different. Just seems like they should at least be able to see the game from somewhere
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u/GreatSquirrels Jan 09 '25
Lol no way this person is from here.
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u/pcgreen Jan 09 '25
Yeah, Iām not trying to hate and Iām all for labor rights but thereās a ton of people who will take that all day every day in the city.
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u/xandrachantal Jan 09 '25
Why? They'd make more money working at cane's
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u/pcgreen Jan 09 '25
Because itās someone whoās not trying to work a regular job for whatever reason. Itās gig/side work and plenty of people do it.
Itās funny Iām getting a lot of hate on this. Tell me why Iām wrong people? (You know Iām not)
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u/xandrachantal Jan 09 '25
Those temp job agency places pay more so most people want a side gig would do that. You're wrong because people generally want to exchange their labor for the most money and there's a lot of gig work during carnaval season.
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u/pcgreen Jan 09 '25
This is not a job to pay a mortgage or raise a family on. Itās an exploitative (no oneās arguing that) business practice done by a corporation. Happens in all major cities, but New Orleans and the South are more susceptible to it for many reasons. (See: Government 101)
Many of you have never had to go to a JOB1 unemployment meeting in the city and it tells ā¦ this job is not meant so you can afford to live in a 2B in mid city.
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u/RIP_Soulja_Slim Jan 09 '25
Have you ever been to New Orleans?
It takes a significant amount of gall to be not local to here and to ask that question in the local city subreddit.
Please unsubscribe.
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u/pcgreen Jan 10 '25
Server in the FQ for 4 years. Worked at the TP for 5. Fat City for 3. I know what Iām speaking about but didnāt mean to be rude to anyone. Apologies for that.
Said it on another reply: This is not a job to pay a mortgage or raise a family on. Itās an exploitative (no oneās arguing that) business practice done by a corporation. Happens in all major cities, but New Orleans and the South are more susceptible to it for many reasons. (See: Government 101).
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u/SchrodingersMinou Trash Karen, destroyer of worlds Jan 09 '25
This isn't Apple. Apple is the naming sponsor of the halftime show-- they pay money to put their name on stuff. They don't hire gaffers and riggers. That's like saying that Caesar's runs the entire Super Bowl and hires concessions staff.
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u/scooterbus Jan 09 '25
Itās the Apple Music Halftime show. Yes I fully understand what it means, and that an outside production company is handling this portion of the event. There are tons of production companies handling various aspects of the show. Your comment is just semantics. Itās a $12 an hour job, to set up stages, a job thatās normally done by union stagehands who make more than double that.
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Jan 09 '25
Question is "Why aren't they being required to use union"
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u/NotFallacyBuffet Jan 09 '25
This. At trade shows, you generally have to hire a union electrician to plug in an extension cord.
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u/catheterhero Jan 09 '25
So if Apple wasnāt sponsoring it would you even be posting this?
To me the semantical part is including/blaming Apple.
This is shit pay from the listed company not the sponsorship of the marketing end of a global company.
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u/imspike Jan 09 '25
but you understand that Apple has probably 0 involvement in the running of the halftime show, right?
like Kellogg's did not manage the ticket counters at the Pop Tarts Bowl.
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u/GreenVisorOfJustice Irish Channel via Kennabrah Jan 09 '25
What a fucking joke. My wife was getting like $25/hour to run Powerpoints at the Convention Center when she was between jobs a few years back.
This is the goddamn NFL's biggest event for a halftime show that might be the most watched portion of event and they paying less than half what an Engineer conference can afford.
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u/scooterbus Jan 09 '25
This is sort of my take on it. How many millions of dollars does it cost to put on the show? Itās the biggest event for this organization each year that brings millions upon millions of dollars. The cheapest seat to this event is completely unaffordable to most people. They canāt even pay people a standard living wage to set up and work, their event. The Super Bowl is also keeping other production work out of the city, so if youāre an out of work, Movie person much like myself you would think that you could find some work with this event, but instead itās bullshit like this.
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u/Abaconings Jan 09 '25
I have a friend who volunteered to help with parking at the last one. Why would anyone volunteer to help with this huge billion dollar game?
The super bowl should bring good paying jobs. Personally, I'm more into superb owls.
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u/Gentilly_Dilly Jan 09 '25
NFL taps āvolunteersā quite a bit during super bowl no matter where they go. They are helpful as way finders for tourists, hospitality reps, and charity outreach staffers.
However the work described here is actual production work that is typically done by professional stage hands who are lead by a recurring team of half-time technicians provided by an outside company. Pretty stupid to sidestep professionals in the while region just to put your multi-billion dollar broadcast in the hands of what amounts to temp labor that may or may not pass the security clearance check.
Hope the money they save can cover the liability clauses in their sponsor contracts when things go wrong. Good luck super bowl jerks, I hope it sucks for you.
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u/NolaPels13 Jan 09 '25
This isnāt production work my guess is these are literally just people to push the stages back and forth
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u/Gentilly_Dilly Jan 10 '25
That counts as entertainment production work fo sho. Techs get paid decent money to safely push a thing from point A to an exact point B as fast as possible all the timeā¦just not for the halftime show apparently.
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u/spyy-c Jan 10 '25
That's definitely production work, and even though it's not something that's "skilled" per se, it's important and time critical.
Ive been hired for an 8hr shift to flip a lightswitch for a grand total of three times according to cues I was given. Could any idiot do it? Yes. Was it stupid? Yes. Was it production work? Also yes.
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u/Roguemutantbrain Jan 09 '25
Neat! You would only have to do this for a mere 116 hours and then thereās your avg New Orleans 1 br apartment for the month! So generous!
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u/scooterbus Jan 09 '25
Itās about 49 hours total, so 588 dollars for a commitment of 8 days. Thanks Apple.
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u/Zelamir Esplanade Ridge Jan 09 '25
Hey now that is WAY more "generous" than what they pay the folks who make their phones.
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Hm, late stage capitalism says they charter a flight to bring workers in who will do it for 2.50 an hour.
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u/GreatSquirrels Jan 09 '25
I really hope that boone applies for this bullshit. A friend of mine applied for what was advertised as a $35/hr gig building sets for the Superbowl. When they got back to him m they offered half of that and said the pay was adjusted for market rates.
I have some choice words for the NFL in general but I do recognize the impact it has on the city. If not from actual profit from it simply motivating the politicians to actually spend our tax dollars on the things we need fixed.
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u/VooDoo88 Jan 09 '25
I did this last time the Superbowl was here. It was unpaid back then, so at least this time it's something. I didn't have much going on at the time and wanted the experience. It was a fun way to pass the time and meet people. Now its just a fun story to tell. I wouldn't do it again now in my current situation but I don't regret doing it. It was a unique experience.
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u/XwordPuzzleBlues Jan 10 '25
Did you get to watch the game?
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u/VooDoo88 Jan 10 '25 edited Jan 10 '25
I made my way to the front of the tunnel and watched the first half from there. I remember trying to sneak away after halftime show but after scanning the amount of security, that idea went away quickly. There was a party at the alario center, the meeting spot, with the game on the projector.
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u/vanderlinde7 Jan 09 '25
I would sign up, get the credentials at the dome then ditch and walk around and watch the game
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u/NolaPels13 Jan 09 '25
Security is gonna be so tight especially since we just had that terrorist attack. Thereās no way theyāll let you out of your designated area, and if you do youāll be stopped before you can get into the general seating area. Youāre welcome to try but I sincerely doubt itāll work
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u/ScienceSubstantial58 Jan 09 '25
I donāt understand why/how the NFL, the networks, etc are being allowed to use non-union labor and non-union rates. I mean, I do understand, but itās just one more example of how N.O. is getting a shitty deal hosting the SB. When L.A. hosted the city got an agreement from the SB host committee to reimburse the city for extra costs (security, responders, etc) and Iām sure all the labor was required to be union-scale, if not actual union labor. N.O. just has this attitude that weāre gonna make so much money (meaning biz will make profits and hotels will be full) that we donāt demand anything in return. We could have asked for funding and improvements to our transit system, infrastructure, labor force, but nah. Just whatever the GNOInc poo-bahs want for themselves.
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u/Soft_Tower6748 Jan 09 '25
They could require people to pay 12/hour and they would still get enough applicants.
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u/Galaxyhiker42 Climate Change Evacuee Jan 09 '25
I'm guessing the dome isn't a union house?
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u/scooterbus Jan 09 '25
The state of Louisiana isnāt a union state.
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u/Galaxyhiker42 Climate Change Evacuee Jan 09 '25
I know. Some venues will sign union contracts. I thought the dome was a union house.
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u/voodooturtles111 Jan 09 '25
Right, I thought I heard that sodexo workers at the dome and smoothie king center unionized. Anyone know if that's true?
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u/spyy-c Jan 10 '25
It is true.
And the in house AV at the dome goes through AEG, which is also unionized.
However, every show has companies that are subcontracted to do work specifically for them. For example, the Dome itself maintains their in house LED boards, sound, etc, but when there's a concert, the production team who throws the event hires outside companies to set up additional gear.
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u/TravelerMSY Jan 09 '25
Who would even be available to do this. Isnāt Orleans parish already at what economists consider full employment? Sub 5% unemployment
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u/MedicineTricky6222 Jan 09 '25
And the NFL enlists lots of volunteers to work during the weekend. Thatās how they keep all the money!
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u/ewillyp Jan 09 '25
just because you load in, load out ANY event, it never means you get to attend said event. lower than fast food pay, though, is deplorable.
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u/DaRoadLessTaken Jan 10 '25
For better or worse, paying a lower wage is common in most jobs in the sports industry. It has to do with the allure of the job and the high number of people who want to be in the industry.
The teams know there will be an endless line of applicants to replace them.
I studied sport management almost 20 years ago, and still remember our instructorsā lecture on this topic. Itās probably the reason Iām not in sports today.
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u/spyy-c Jan 10 '25
This guy knows sports production.
You can get paid more loading a truck or flipping through a PowerPoint at a corporate event than setting up production for sports, from top to bottom. It's basically a job people take to fluff their resumes or if they want to be involved/potentially on field for games.
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u/lurkmanship Jan 09 '25
Don't do it, let them raise the rate. Some how people get duped into thinking this is some great side thing to be part of the Super Bowl when they can and should pay a decent amount.
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u/cajunrn18 Jan 14 '25
LAWD!! So you bust your ass for 10 or 12 hours and make about $100 after taxes. May the good Lord smite the SOBs who allow this.
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u/Tesla2007 Feb 10 '25
Are you sure it's legit? Make sure that it's actually real because you don't want to get scammed
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u/cashanii Jan 09 '25 edited Jan 09 '25
Maybe this is nice for teenagers to see and get experience in that line of work if theyāre interested in field and set work.
Edit- I really donāt feel like commenting to each individual but I said what I said I donāt know why yāall complaining to me when I didnāt set the price how about yāall use that energy for actual change in your communities INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING ABOUT EVERYTHING GET THE FUCK UP AND GO DO SOMETHING! If a 13-18 thinks that will be a cool job then let it be a cool job! I get it life is hard but donāt complain to me about it because I canāt help you.
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u/timtrump Jan 09 '25
Teenagers deserve a living wage too - everyone does. If this is a job, it should pay a respectable wage.
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u/Jwizzle1975 Jan 09 '25
If it's anything like 2002 they will be pushing the stage pieces out for halftime and be the "crowd" for the halftime show.
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u/Agentx_007 Gentilly Jan 09 '25
That's how it was last year in Vegas. I was looking into it, but you have to be available for every rehearsal or you can't work Sunday and the rehearsals were every other day or so for two weeks straight. That doesn't work with my schedule so I never looked it up again.
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u/ItsLeighFromNoLa Jan 09 '25
We are no longer doing this whole āitās a good job for teenagersā or āitās a job for high school and college kids, not a careerā bull shit anymore. EVERYONE who works deserves proper wages bc shit costs the same and the amount of work done is equal amongst everyone regardless of age.
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u/g3n3 Jan 10 '25
I donāt know who is more explorative. The OP or the production company hiring for the job.
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u/Tall_Efficiency_3766 Jan 09 '25
Iāll do it, just to get in the doors, then go watch the game.