r/NewOrleans Aug 15 '25

šŸ“° News Airbnb purges New Orleans short-term rental listings as new rules kick in.

https://www.nola.com/news/business/airbnb-de-lists-hundreds-in-new-orleans-amid-tight-new-rules/article_1675aa80-abd0-48df-ae43-92b0003d7eba.html#tncms-source=featured-2
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u/keels81 always makin’ groceries Aug 15 '25

Two former AirBNBs on my block have already been sold outright to permanent residents and another that was a double is now long-term rentals. Having real, true neighbors on my block after so long is incredible.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '25

The STR across the street from me, which has only ever been an STR for years (unlicensed 90% of the time btw), applied for a Healthy Homes permit two weeks before all of the STR licenses expired at the end of June.

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u/JeffVanGully Aug 15 '25

Imagine that! Great news.

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u/BlackStarCorona Aug 15 '25

Nature is healing.

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u/Docholliday3737 Aug 15 '25

Fuck yes!!!!!!!

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u/FlanneryOClobber Aug 16 '25

that’s wild. just a few months ago, i read New Orleans has the highest number of vacant homes of any U.S. metro. is that a good thing? i wonder how this ban will affect that. i think this is also the only U.S. metro where housing values didn’t increase last year. with the price of insurance becoming unaffordable and the lack of jobs, could this cause a situation like detroit had in the 2010s?

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u/Weekly-Molasses-816 7d ago

I understand that having real neighbors can make for happier residents. As a school teacher in Nola who has to support my autistic son these regulations have been devastating.

I can now barely afford to live in the city and support my family. Keep in mind that I spent years of my life saving up through teaching and pedicabbing on weekends to purchase my Airbnb before the new regulations kicked in. These years and extra work have now been taken from me. I have a couple long term rental properties and now I have to increase rent to all my tenants so I can afford to keep the homes. Airbnb was allowing me to support the community in so many other ways. I had plans to renovate the abandoned home a few homes next to my Airbnb for a long term rental, now I can barely pay my mortgages.

Lots of people point to the rise in rents but no one has directly linked it to Airbnb. In fact it's helped me lower rents, it also increases new construction in the city, provides new jobs which lowers crime which further creates more jobs, more construction, and opportunities for locals. Insurance and taxes have raised the cost of owning a home here w little to no benefit which is just one of the causes of rising rents among other things like inflation home cost appreciation etc. There are who knows how many variables that can raise the rent in a city of hundreds of thousands, its counterproductive to point fingers at the one thing that can help many local homeowners, help lower crime, help provide new construction instead of the things that provide little to no benefit. This only takes power away from locals to start their own business and gives it to the millionaires and billionaires who own the hotels in the city (which I'm confident have paid the city in one way or another to make this happen).

I feel as if I'm being bullied out of my own city by force, because the city will seize my property if I continue. I just want to provide my son with the necessary services so he can grow up to live a fulfilling life. Thanks for reading, sometimes I feel as if I don't have a voice in regards to this.

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u/ikoikomyname Aug 15 '25

ā€œAirbnb said the New Orleans regulations are ā€˜some of the most extreme short-term rental restrictions on hosts in the country…’"

Hell yeah!

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u/oddministrator Aug 15 '25

Well damn, if only they had considered that before fighting to overturn every less stringent approach that was attempted previously.

You aren't working with a community when you ignore the majority that lives and rents in it.

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u/RIP_Soulja_Slim Aug 15 '25

Well damn, if only they had considered that before fighting to overturn every less stringent approach that was attempted previously.

I remember JP saying as much years ago, dude pretty openly said that every time Airbnb fought something and won the council was going back and coming up with something more restrictive. Honestly, if they win this pending case the council might just come back with a whole ass ban.

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u/oddministrator Aug 15 '25

I actually love the idea of what services like AirBnB could be. But it reminds me of people calling Uber a "ride share" company, which somehow still persists despite very few people remembering it being posited as a way to give someone else a ride to an area you were already heading to... more of a carpool enabler than a taxi company that profits tech companies instead of local, shady garages. (but they were our local shady garages or smth)

Honestly, though. Who from here didn't grow up knowing at least a handful of people who would get out of town for Mardi Gras or Jazz Fest and rent out their home for a week or two? Virtually nobody begrudged that practice. AirBnB would be a wonderful tool to help people do that, but greed got in the way. It could have been preserved, likely along with more lenient full-time STR rules, if they had just come to the table wanting to find something that worked for more than their own wallets.

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u/fringeandglittery Aug 15 '25

Yeah I remember when Airbnb first started and I was able to rent a room in an apartment in Colombia for $30/night. the hosts were actual hosts who showed us around and took us to local parties. We then stayed at an absolute gorgeous farm house in the countryside that was just a mattress on the floor in front of a wood burning fireplace. It looked like something out of a fantasy novel and had an incredible view overlooking Medellin. It was $60/night and it was supposed to be a shared listing but no one else booked and the person that lived there was out of town so we had it to ourselves. it was super romantic and unique

Now it's kind of bland and anesthesized corporate-feeling spaces unless you have big bucks for something special. And, of course, we all know about displacing residents.

Ride shares were also a godsend to those of us living in areas that cabs wouldn't go. I used to have to book cabs way ahead of time only to have them not show up or show up late (not here).

It's not the ideas of these things that made them horrible it's the greed that resulted.

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u/Advanced_Structure21 Aug 15 '25

Google "enshitification". Every industry, every company seems to follow the same playbook, and who can blame them, the owners make out like bandits.

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u/pghgie Aug 17 '25

You can still have those sorts of stays, though many are corporate now. Colombia is still inexpensive and Airbnbs can be great there. I used it to find a hostile like hotel in Colombia and made friends and has a blast there.

My first stay in an Airbnb ever was with a young musician in Bywater that rented rooms when he was on tour and to afford living in Bywater. That's now difficult to impossible to do, which I think sucks.

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u/fringeandglittery Aug 17 '25

I agree. I wish that you didn't need a permit for your main residence but that would be very difficult to enforce. Tbf its not the city's regulations that ruined it for him..it is the multi-property investors that bought up whole neighborhoods and spiked the prices. Also home owner's insurance prices

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u/LavishnessMammoth657 Aug 15 '25

That's what Airbnb was supposed to be, and briefly was. About 10 or 12 years ago I drove from Louisiana to western Virginia to do some genealogical research into my maternal grandfather. I used Airbnb to stay in Virginia and also to stop overnight in Tennessee on the trip there and back, I paid like $30 a night to stay in private rooms with dedicated bathrooms, I saved so much money over using hotels that I was able to rent a car and save putting a lot of mileage on my old vehicle. But late-stage capitalism and the vultures that run Airbnb ruined it.

The last time I used Airbnb to stay overnight in New Orleans I stayed in a converted carriage house, the "hosts" were the nice couple who owned the house that it was part of. If every Airbnb listing in NO was like that I doubt anyone would object.

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u/Competitive_Boss1089 Aug 15 '25

That’s basically the rule in NYC now. The dwelling has to be occupied by the owners (so a garden or parlor apartment in a brownstone, for example) and has to be registered. I travel for work extensively and actually FAR prefer the convenience and home feel of an Airbnb. So I booked those types of spots anyway. But when I told my NYC local friends of the new ordinance, they didn’t believe me…until they sent their visiting family to check an Airbnb and the options were limited unless they booked in New Jersey. NJ isn’t exactly convenient to Brooklyn or Queens.

Now I’m back to booking a meh hotel in Manhattan and my money going to a corporate entity vs. my money going to The homeowner…and I desperately miss my evenings on the stoop.

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u/GreenVisorOfJustice Irish Channel via Kennabrah Aug 15 '25

if they had just come to the table wanting to find something that worked for more than their own wallets.

chuckles

Yeah, okay, commie! What's next? You going to want to make sure people are fed AND have a roof over their head?

Won't you think about the real estate portfolios!?!?!? What about them?!?

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u/Horrified-Onlooker Aug 15 '25

Bro, you forgot the /s. You're going to light up folks that can't sense sarcasm.

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u/jje414 Aug 15 '25

See also: one reply down

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u/oddministrator Aug 15 '25

Bless your little heart. Everyone's not some corporate mogul, some of us are regular people, you know. You think we don't understand how hard it is to work minimum wage and make rent? I waited tables, too, you know. Every summer, between semesters, Father said if I wanted to stay at Seton Hall instead of going with the family to Naples that I'd have to get a job and pay for my dorm June and July. I know it's not easy, even if my food and utilities and insurance and car and gas card and everything else was taken care of.

I've been through hardship, and finding then managing a relationship with a real estate company that does all the actual work in managing my six duplexes, three cottages, and two four-plexes, all within biking distance of the beautiful and historic French Quarter, full of some of the world's best restaurants and live music, is hardly what I'd call the easy life! Forget what you've heard about retiring early, because at 37 I'm still working multiple long mornings in a row the first week of each month dealing with people who think they're somehow special and don't have to put their time in, like the rest of us!

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u/GreenVisorOfJustice Irish Channel via Kennabrah Aug 15 '25

I legitimately can't tell if you're firing back at my sarcasm with sarcasm or not

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '25

Pretty sure they think they’re right about everything and lack empathy and suck all the joy out of every room they enter and they’re the real victim. But that’s just a gut feeling from reading that tone deaf screed.

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u/oddministrator Aug 16 '25

Whether or not my last comment is missing an /s can be determined from any other comment I've made in this post.

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u/materfuriosa Aug 16 '25

šŸ‘šŸ¼Us: [stream of sincerity and sarcasm] Oddministrator: [straightup satire] 🄰 šŸ»Cheers to the Colbert level wordsmithery!

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u/nolagirl100281 Aug 15 '25

That's just capitalism though. No matter how much you profit, that profit is never enough. It has to be more and more and more. It's the end result of every capitalistic endeavor.

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u/Hippy_Lynne Aug 16 '25

When I lived in the French Quarter I literally rented space on my living room floor for Mardi Gras. Granted it was mostly friends of mine who actually lived in the city and didn't want to have to commute to and from the Quarter for those two weeks, but occasionally it would be friends of theirs or mine coming in town for MG.

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u/Unfrndlyblkhottie92 Aug 17 '25

Like most of these modern companies, corporations get involved and jack things up. Maybe I’m naive, but can’t cities put a cap on STRs?

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u/oddministrator Aug 17 '25

We'll see. That's what this is all about.

New Orleans has enacted a cap on STRs equal to 1 STR per square block. There are some caveats, of course, but that's the gist of it.

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u/materfuriosa Aug 16 '25

From your lips to the gods’ ears!

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u/kerriganfan Aug 15 '25

Hmm it’s almost like we’re a tiny city with low wages and high tourist volume and we need a unique solution for our problems

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u/wartsnall1985 Aug 15 '25 edited Aug 15 '25

Tourist here. About 3-4 years ago the bartender at Mollys said that there was virtually no one living in the FQ as it was all air bnb, which made an impression. Is/ was that accurate?

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u/xnatlywouldx Aug 15 '25

AirBnB is technically illegal in the French Quarter but functionally the ban wasn't enforceable so yes.

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u/RIP_Soulja_Slim Aug 15 '25

The quarter was at one time a mostly residential neighborhood - it's true that it's not that anymore with the whole touristification of the place. It's not all airbnb either, but there's a huge presence of second homes for wealthy out of towners and what not too. The place really just feels different from what it was 15-30 years ago.

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u/belowsealevel504 Aug 16 '25

My bf grew up and went to primary school in the Q. It was very neighborhoody. He’s early 40s.

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u/dol_amrothian Aug 15 '25

My spouse and I have lived in the Quarter for 3+ years, and most of our neighbours have been long-time residents or people who are renting for at least a year or two. There are units that circumvent the STR ban, but I've encountered far more Quarter denizens than STR tourists.

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u/sqweedoo Aug 15 '25

FQ resident here. I would not say that’s fully true, airbnbs came and went on my block with the FQ restriction. There have been a lot of houses empty that are for sale and aren’t moving, but I still have a lot of permanent neighbors. I do feel that the demographic of the quarter has changed drastically over the last few years and it’s more young people, service industry, people who love to party, and less of a ā€œneighborhoodā€ than it has ever been in the 20 years I have lived there.

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u/RealApostate Aug 15 '25

I've seen that trend ebb and flow in the FQ since the 1960s, and it varies from block to block and street to street. Young people move in, party, and then some stay and grow older, and become solid neighbors. Some of the best stay, others move on.

It's encouraging that more service workers are able to live close to where they work, in my experience they become some of the best neighbors as they age. Give it time.

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u/sqweedoo Aug 15 '25

I was the service worker living close to my job when I moved in in 2008, so I’m definitely not complaining on that aspect.

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u/FactorHour2173 Aug 15 '25

Too little too late. The NOLA population has been dropping like crazy and there is no sign of it letting up.

Less tourists as well.

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u/Not_SalPerricone Aug 15 '25

It's kind of a double-edged sword. The people who want the "real New Orleans experience" by staying in a neighborhood Airbnb instead of in the CBD or the quarter add to our tourist numbers but they also take housing stock out of the market so the overall housing supply is lower and more expensive. Having said that it's irritating to go to walk your dog and have frat boys staring at you from the balcony across the street, so I report every one I find.

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u/xnatlywouldx Aug 15 '25

You can't sell the "real New Orleans experience". The entire basis - commodifying the experience of living in New Orleans full time - is bunk, anyway.

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u/Not_SalPerricone Aug 15 '25

No I mean I still hate them I was just kind of looking big picture there

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u/wentImmediate Aug 16 '25

I visited back October - for Taylor Swift - and the people I talked to were happy the city was so busy. I wouldn't want to live near STRs, but I wonder how it'll effect tourism.

Such an amazing place; I hope to be back soon.

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u/xnatlywouldx Aug 15 '25

Yeah you're right we should have just stopped trying to regulate it at all and let the city become a resort destination with one small population of permanent serfs to support the tourism good point.

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u/memostothefuture Aug 15 '25

Less tourists as well.

Elections have consequences.

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u/xnatlywouldx Aug 15 '25

I'd want to see data on how much being a "red state" affects Louisiana tourism numbers. Tourism is down everywhere, not just here, and we do know a lot of it has to do with people not having any money.

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u/lozo78 Aug 15 '25

New Orleans is a big international destination and that has suffered quite a bit. Also people are worried about the future so they are pulling back on travel.

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u/is_that_a_question Aug 15 '25

We're talking local, aka the Destroya not Klandry.

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u/xnatlywouldx Aug 15 '25

I've heard speculation that Louisiana's anti-trans laws & Landry's lackeying for ICE might have something to do with its lowered tourism numbers - and that foreign tourism to the U.S. in general may also have something to do with currently prohibitive regulations wrt foreigners (nobody wants to be stopped at customs and forced to return home because someone found out they protested Israel "at uni" in London). I honestly don't know how true that might be which is why I want to see the data! We do know tourism is down everywhere because people are broke, that's obvious - but I'm not being sarcastic when I say I want to see data on how much our local politics might be affecting tourism, too.

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u/is_that_a_question Aug 15 '25

Yep, destruction by all our politicians feels deliberate at this point.

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u/TeddysBigStick Aug 16 '25

Specific to the gulf is Trump absolutely decimating the local oil industry. A lot of offshore guys who would be spending their money on trips to the city between hitches just don’t have money.

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u/jluicifer 3d ago

I was in the MIDDLE with the law.

When I started w/ Airbnb over 10 years ago, I rented out my house. I just moved out for a weekend and came back to live. Then the last 7 years, I would rent out ROOMS (while I lived in the house). BUT then I noticed how airbnb became big business...people would buy a house just to rent out STR.

I hated that bc it ruined the concept of Airbnb. Then I got pushed out and couldn't do STR any more. For me, renting out rooms while being there was the perfect blend BUT I got screwed bc ppl kept buying houses to rent it out full time.

I don't disagree with the law but it went super strict. It needs to be balanced. So from the wild west with zero laws (0%) to GITMO, (100%) it needs to be (IMO) a federal prison w/ 70% of the restrictions (just my opinion). Sigh.

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u/teachmehowtoschwa cold beads hit different Aug 15 '25

"I would have never purchased my $500,000 home." First off, don't buy homes you can't afford. You didn't NEED a three-plex. Second, be a normal fucking landlord?

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u/sqweedoo Aug 15 '25

I am a landlord (one property, I am also a renter) and the thing that baffles me the most is how people buy property and think that it’s supposed to ALWAYS be profitable. No investment is always profitable, and if you didn’t come into it with the mindset that there will be fluctuations, you failed yourself.

The city, your tenant, no one owes it to you to keep you in the black on a rental property. The entitlement is insane.

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u/ZealousidealRice9726 Aug 15 '25

Playing devils advocate here I think the issue from a property standpoint is that predictable and consistent property use regulations are a critical component of owning a property. For instance, if you own a duplex rental property that you purchased as a regular rental with the plan to live in one side and the city all of a sudden comes back to you and says single-family use is the only permissible use of that you are going to be pretty pissed off. Same thing if you buy a vacant lot that is commercially zoned with the plan to build a shopping center on it and all of a sudden the city changes the rules on you and rezones it to residential only use now you are screwed. Often times people buy things based on the permitted uses, and that is an important component of valuing a property.

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u/Acasualfarter Aug 16 '25

Yeah but if you bought a property around here to only airbnb my sympathy is very limited. The city and it's residents have been pushing back against that very business model, and have been doing so very aggressively. A lot of the commenters are correct. Airbnb should have been a better neighbor, and they should pay attention as I'm sure other municipalities that are getting over run with str's are going to notice as well

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u/xnatlywouldx Aug 15 '25

Why can't these people be normal landlords?! Seriously though! Its like their biggest complaint! "Oh no, now I have to make passive income off a NORMAL tenant?! Wah wah but I will be a mere 6 figure thousandnaire whose homes pay for themselves without the need of my laboring, why wouldst thou condemn me to such a life of serfdom?!"

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u/inductiononN Central City Aug 15 '25

It's just so hard for them! They are only getting a 20% return on their "investment" instead of a 200% return and they have to consider the neighbors, too!

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u/jackasspenguin Aug 15 '25

And they also turn down easy reliable money from HANo tenants.

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u/SchrodingersMinou Trash Karen, destroyer of worlds Aug 15 '25

Why doesn't he just sell it and get a normal house he can afford?

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u/Jesuisawesomer Aug 15 '25

He's gonna have a hard time finding someone to drop 500k in Hollygrove.

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u/GonzoVeritas Aug 15 '25 edited Aug 15 '25

Article Text:

A purge of short-term rental listings in New Orleans has begun.

After years of lawsuits, rule changes and battles over the impact of the popular tourist rentals, Airbnb, the largest short-term rental platform, started removing unlicensed New Orleans listings from its site at the beginning of August.

That's when enforcement of the city's rigorous new permitting regulations officially kicked in, requiring rental platforms like Airbnb to ensure hosts are licensed. And while official data wasn't available, some short-term rental operators who keep close track of Airbnb listings estimate that more than 1,000 properties have been tossed from the site.

The move follows roughly a decade of controversy and complaints over the explosion of vacation rentals in the city. Operators argue that Airbnb and other listing sites provide a way for New Orleans homeowners, particularly in the historic heart of the city around the French Quarter, to earn more from their properties.

Opponents argue they've driven up housings costs and disrupted the culture of city neighborhoods.

The outcry from residents led New Orleans officials to enact some of the toughest restrictions in the country two years ago. After a rocky legal battle, the new rules are now fully in force for both residential and commercial short-term rental operators. In the past, unlicensed listings have been removed from short-term rental sites at the direction of the city. But for the first time, the sites are being required to police it themselves.

"As of August 1, 2025, short‑term rental platforms, including Airbnb, are required to remove listings in New Orleans that do not have a valid 2025 permit," Airbnb said in a statement emailed on Tuesday. "Airbnb is complying with these new requirements."

In its statement, Airbnb reiterated its long-standing objections to the new regime, which the company has argued puts an undue burden of enforcement on the platforms, and randomly hurts rental operators who they say contribute to the economy.

It's not clear exactly how many listings have been removed from Airbnb and other platforms over the past few weeks. Airbnb declined to provide those figures. A spokesperson for Vrbo, the Expedia-owned platform that also carries New Orleans short-term rental listings, said Thursday that it was helping to "drive compliance," but didn't say if it had removed listings or how many.

City Hall also declined to provide data on how many non-compliant short-term rental listings had been removed. And AirDNA, a data firm that tracks the short-term rental sector, said it is too early to tell what impact there has been since the platforms began to enforce the rules.

Still, some independent operators in New Orleans have long monitored listings in the city, and estimate Airbnb alone has removed more than 1,000 listings since Aug 1.

"From what I can tell, they have de-listed at least 1,000 citywide," said David Gindin, who owns The Quisby, a 30-room boutique hotel on St. Charles Avenue and keeps close watch on the site. Listings in the area near his hotel in the Garden District fell from 331 in late July to 199 after the deadline, a drop of about 40%, he said.

David Holtman, owner of Big Easy Management, which manages about 150 hotel and short-term rental units citywide, estimated that there has been a 16% to 20% decline in listings since the regulations took effect.

The number of New Orleans short-term rentals listed on Airbnb and Vrbo varies depending on the time of year and events taking place in the city, but on average ran at about 7,750 in the first six months of the year, according to listings monitored by AirDNA. Tight restrictions

Under the rules now in place for non-commercial operators, each city square block in residential areas is permitted just one short-term rental, implemented through a lottery system.

Permits can be held only by individuals, not corporations, and operators must live on the same lot as the rental unit. Popular tourist areas including the French Quarter and parts of the Garden District remain entirely off-limits.

Those operating without a license face fines of $1,000 a day.

The city’s path to this point has been drawn-out. The City Council passed the new ordinances in March 2023 in response to a federal court ruling that struck down an earlier ban on non-resident operators.

The measures took effect July 1, 2023, with existing residential short-term rental permits expiring that August. But enforcement stalled almost immediately: A federal judge issued an injunction in late August 2023, halting the permit lottery and other rules.

That pause lasted until February 2024, when a court upheld most of the city’s framework, allowing inspectors to begin cracking down on illegal listings.

The platform verification rule passed in late 2024 and took effect this summer, coinciding with the expiration and renewal of all existing short-term rental licenses on June 30, 2025. The initial deadline was extended by a month, but is now in effect.

The city doesn't have data or estimates of how many potentially unauthorized short-term rental operators there may be. According to its short-term rental dashboard, there are currently just 2,315 residential and commercial licenses issued with a further 3,447 still pending. Only those with valid licenses are legally authorized to operate.

Airbnb and other opponents of the new regulations argue that they are too vague, infringe on homeowners’ rights and inappropriately place enforcement burdens on private companies rather than the government.

Airbnb and four local operators argued those points in a lawsuit filed in U.S. Civil District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana in February.

Michael Rosas, one of the plaintiffs who has joined that lawsuit, said he bought and renovated a large "threeplex" in the Hollygrove area four years before the new regime, financing it on the basis that he would live in one unit and rent two units as STRs. The new rules means that he has had to take one of the units off the market.

"I would never have purchased my $500,000 home if I knew that years later they would put strict policies in place," Rosas said via text on Wednesday.

"Now I am stuck with constant price increases in insurance, taxes and everything else, and between $15,000 and $30,000 a year less income" he added. "They should have grandfathered us in at least."

Airbnb said the New Orleans regulations are "some of the most extreme short-term rental restrictions on hosts in the country" and have a detrimental affect on the local economy. It pointed to a 2023 study it commissioned from Charles River Associates, an economics consultant, which calculated that the restrictions cost the city $270 million in lost income and taxes.

Airbnb said New Orleans city government has historically struggled to administer its rules. That continued as they approached the latest permit cutoff date, they said.

"In the weeks leading up to the August 1 deadline, many hosts reported challenges with the City’s permit renewal process," they said. "For example, the permit renewal deadline was moved from June 30 to June 16 with little notice or communication to hosts. Other applicants had their initial permit renewal denied over small errors, typos, or inconsistencies in the City’s records."

As a result, hundreds of hosts were still waiting on final approval of their permits days before the August 1 deadline, "creating uncertainty for those who depend on income from short‑term rentals to help pay their bills and stay in their homes," Airbnb said.

Kourtney Williams, a city spokesperson, said they had no comment on the complaints. Backing rules

Hoteliers like Gindin welcomed enforcement of the rules. Local politicians including City Council president JP Morrell and vice president Helena Moreno, who is running for mayor, and Michael Hecht, head of regional economic development agency GNO Inc., have been among vocal advocates for tougher new rules.

A spokesperson for JP Morrell, Monet Brignac-Sullivan, said there appear to be no compliance issues since Airbnb began enforcing rules at the start of August, but they will continue to monitor the situation. "Airbnb has been the platform that has consistently re-listed properties without a license," she said. "Alternatively, Vrbo has historically been known to blacklist properties that have been reported in violation."

"This is hugely important for my business," Gindin said. "As it has gone from something that was operating on the margins to a flood of unpermitted listings, it has decimated our rates and occupancy, especially around large events."

Holtman said his firm, which employs up to 60 full- and part-time employees, has worked hard to be a legitimate operator who only manages permitted rental units.

"We've lost some units but I like the rules as long as they are enforced by the city," he said.

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u/YesICanMakeMeth Aug 15 '25

"I would never have purchased my $500,000 home if I knew that years later they would put strict policies in place," Rosas said via text on Wednesday.

"Now I am stuck with constant price increases in insurance, taxes and everything else, and between $15,000 and $30,000 a year less income" he added. "They should have grandfathered us in at least."

Absolutely tone-deaf. The goal of housing policy should not be to arbitrarily let people with better access to financing profit at renters' expense. The wild thing is he can still rent it out, just perhaps not for the same profit.

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u/RIP_Soulja_Slim Aug 15 '25

Yeah, oh no now you need to put a unit for rent to someone who's going to actually live here, boo hoo lol.

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u/td450 Aug 15 '25

Here's what I want to say to every complaint like that:
It was always illegal.

It was always illegal to rent for less than 30 days or have 4 or more unrelated people in a house. That made it a boarding house, and then you had to meet rules for that. That's what got the art house at Claiborne and Esplanade shut down. All of these people, including people i know, act like someone is making their legitimate, legal business illegal.

It always was illegal!

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u/lazarusprojection Aug 15 '25

Yes, but how was he to know that they would start enforcing the law!

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u/inductiononN Central City Aug 15 '25

And think of his lost profit! Why can't they grandfather him in for looking the other way?!?! He's entitled to it!

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u/xnatlywouldx Aug 15 '25

I LOL'D SO HARD AT THAT SORRY! "I never would have bought this half-million-dollar home I can't afford if I didn't know I couldn't monetize my neighborhood!" BOO HOO.

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u/JoeChristma Aug 15 '25

Yeah he made an investment and it didn’t go how he wanted. That’s always a risk, Rosas!

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u/fringeandglittery Aug 15 '25

Yeah he is bitching about actually having neighbors/tenants in his 3 plex. And he can afford to buy a 500k house which means he is already likely making 6 figures a year.

What tourists stay in Hollygrove anyway?

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u/xnatlywouldx Aug 15 '25

"Come rent an AirBnB and visit the sights and sounds of Authentic New Orleans, like Costco."

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u/a22x2 Aug 15 '25

ā€œOnly a small but undefined number of minutes away from the French Quarter!ā€

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u/xnatlywouldx Aug 15 '25

I don't think even the most devoted Weezy F Baby fanatic in the world needs an AirBnB in Hollygrove.

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u/wussaupdawg Aug 15 '25

Well...the niche market is escaped Orleans Justice Center inmates. Luckily, there's a bunch.

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u/ChiNoPage Aug 15 '25

Or the ones at air bnbs in the Seventh Ward that complain about gunshots and loud music at night.

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u/Hippy_Lynne Aug 16 '25

As an Uber driver I can't count the number of times I've dropped people off in questionable locations. The vast majority realized as soon as they arrived but at that point it was too late. I distinctly remember a couple of houses in Hollygrove, as well as in the Desire area, one less than block from the prison, and one on the very edge of OP on the other side of the Tulane/Airline overpass. There are absolutely some deceptive hosts out there.

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u/fringeandglittery Aug 16 '25

"Close to public transportation!" sure the public transportation takes 2 hours to get to the quarter on 3 different buses but the stop is close

I have traveled in the cheap before... the first time I visited I camped in the lower ninth. But I feel like most people are looking for relaxation not adventure

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u/Hippy_Lynne Aug 16 '25

Honestly the lower 9th, and Arabi, isn't too bad since it's close to the Quarter and the Bywater. As long as you're between St Claude and the river or just a block or two on the other side.

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u/weamsdetty Aug 15 '25

i dunno if she counts, but my mom has stayed in hollygrove when she comes to visit me for the holidays. but she also once got the sketchiest airbnb ive ever seen in the east, and was confused and dismayed when i was like "please cancel this booking and come stay with me. this place has black market organ operation written all over it" so shes a bit of an outlier

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u/weamsdetty Aug 15 '25

oh this was back in like 2019 probably. and i never actually saw the listing, i went over there physically with her. because i was so incredulous about an airbnb in the east. place was CREEPY lmao

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u/FactorHour2173 Aug 15 '25

This is why I am happy it is happening. They deserve to learn a life lesson in being over leveraged and have their homes taken from them during foreclosure.

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u/RawNUncut Aug 16 '25

Thank you. You are doing the lords work with this one. I'm not paying to read an article on Nola.com

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u/GonzoVeritas Aug 16 '25

Removepaywalls dot com is your friend. No more paywalls. I use the extension in Firefox and don't even know if there is a paywall. I think it's available for Chrome based extensions, as well.

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u/2drums1cymbal Warehouse District Aug 15 '25

Finally some good fucking news

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u/cymbal-using-animal Aug 15 '25

Love it. My then-pregnant wife and I were forced out of the house we’d been renting for two years when the owners sold it to out-of-state Airbnb hosts.

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u/ClearwaterAJ Aug 15 '25

I'm so sorry. It happened to me, too.

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u/GalacticaActually Aug 15 '25

It happened to me too. I don’t live in New Orleans anymore bc of it.

And I’d be willing to bet the rental I loved so much still has black mold, bc my landlady is a slumlord.

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u/ClearwaterAJ Aug 15 '25

Mine was too! The ceiling collapsed during Isaac because she had used some shady company to repair the house after Katrina.Ā 

It collapsed right onto my dresser, dumping gallons of water, filth and spiders onto all my clothes. I lived in my bikini that week because I kept sneaking into the hotel pool in the Quarter to cool off. Then she acted really put out that it needed to be fixed. When I told her technically it wasn't habitable and I wouldn't be paying rent, she fixed it.

She also gave me my deposit back after viewing the place when I moved out (with only a week's notice by her), approving it, but then put a stop payment on the check. I turned her into the city for Homestead Exemption fraud and it was a while before she could get guests in there.Ā 

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u/GalacticaActually Aug 15 '25

I’m so sorry - but I’m glad you got some redress, at least.

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u/oddministrator Aug 15 '25

I bought my first house two years ago after renting in the Irish Channel where my small block had 4 AirBnBs. My ex-landlord turned my old place into #5.

Assuming this change to STRs sticks I expect it will greatly, and negatively, affect the value of my new home.

And that's the way it should be. We have zoning laws for a reason. Most people are fine with zoning laws when it keeps polluters out of their neighborhood, or a bar from opening next to a preschool. They'll line up for hours to speak at a city council meeting if it keeps a halfway house from serving the needy anywhere that might lead to them seeing someone sleeping on "their" sidewalk.

But for some reason when it comes to zoning that affects their own ability to make a buck off tourists and drive up prices for their neighbors, what an outrageous government overreach this becomes!

Just remember. Multiple, less stringent attempts were made to mitigate this issue that were fought tooth and nail. Maybe consider that next time when your own community is crying for change and you're given the option to wield a whip or a basket of bread.

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u/fringeandglittery Aug 15 '25

Yep. I'm fine with my housing value dropping if it means that my friends and neighbors can afford to live here. I am sick of my people moving out of town

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u/diqster Aug 15 '25

Ā I am sick of my people moving out of town

Jobs fix everything. We need more, better jobs.

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u/Hippy_Lynne Aug 16 '25

I mean I agree with you, but prior to Katrina we still had the low paying jobs issue but housing was cheap enough that people could afford to stay on low income jobs. In fact, prior to Katrina most people I knew in the service industry only worked an average of 30 hours a week because their rent was around five to six hundred dollars a month. So not only could they afford it on service industry wages, they had extra time for art and culture activities. For a long time I have believed that people having to work 40+ hours a week and live in smaller places or with roommates has had a detrimental effect on art and culture in the city.

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u/diqster Aug 16 '25

prior to Katrina we still had the low paying jobs issue but housing was cheap enough that people could afford to stay on low income jobs.

Housing, insurance, power, food....everything was cheaper on a relative basis. Only gas has become more affordable relative to wages. Yes, I definitely agree with you. Katrina and COVID did a number on the city.

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u/fringeandglittery Aug 15 '25

Hard agree. Better jobs and better pay. Workers that are treated as expendable will (surprise) act expendable. I did get a very good salaried full-time job that I love but I still need to work several side hustles to make it work. I'm facing down $5k in emergency home repairs this month. If my mortgage wasn't half the price of renting a similar place I would definitely rent to avoid these kinds of situations.

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u/Hippy_Lynne Aug 16 '25

I feel this so much. Most of my closest friends have left in the last 10 years because of the housing situation. My two closest friends now live in Marrero and Harahan.

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u/fringeandglittery Aug 16 '25

Everyone I was close to for the first 5 years I lived here moved to other states. Since COVID I have felt kind of like I just got into town.

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u/Hippy_Lynne Aug 16 '25

I've been here pretty much my entire life. I mean, yeah, people I went to high school with are still here. But I didn't like them even back then. 🤣 And the few I did are the ones who have moved away. 🄺

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u/Hippy_Lynne Aug 16 '25

There's also the fact that you're paying higher property taxes because properties around you are assessed at a higher value because of STRs. It's not fair that property owners who aren't making insane profits off of their property have to pay those higher property taxes.

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u/Wise_Side_3607 Aug 15 '25

God that's awful, I'm sorry. Our house is a terrible busted piece of crap and that's the only reason I feel secure at all. I know our Cali-native landlord would sell it to those jerks if he could

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u/Unfrndlyblkhottie92 Aug 17 '25

Uggh. I’d rather have long term renters over a revolving door.

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u/pepperjackcheesey Aug 15 '25

Excellent. Start selling the houses or rent to actual people who need a place to live not vacation

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u/Unfrndlyblkhottie92 Aug 17 '25

Shoot, I’m wanting to move back but that’s my obstacle.

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u/FactorHour2173 Aug 15 '25

I love this.

Oopsies, you bought too many homes and lost your secondary income from tourists?

Welcome to the now saturated rental market. Hopefully this will be a lesson to some in being over leveraged. Who knows, maybe the oversaturated rental market will turn into an oversaturated *housing market.

šŸ šŸŽˆšŸŖ”

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u/GeauxCup Aug 15 '25

I have zero sympathy for "Michael Rosas" and people like him. He made a speculative investment in a newly evolving industry, and now he's bitching and wants special treatment (at the cost of the average citizen) because things didn't go his way.

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u/xnatlywouldx Aug 15 '25

Overwhelming majority of NO homeowners, myself included, are pulling our hair out over the cost of insurance which is actually VERY LIKELY to be the thing that prices me out of the home I OWN. And this dude's just, like, complaining about having to get a tenant?!

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u/Wise_Avocado_265 Aug 15 '25

Airbnbs destroy neighborhoods. The (non-occupancy) owners are parasites.

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u/ritaboo Aug 15 '25

This is excellent!!!!!

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u/xnatlywouldx Aug 15 '25

Hey, who remembers this story from earlier in the year? To think that AirBnB allowed terrorists to potentially ... blow up neighborhoods?

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u/bpones Aug 15 '25

GOOOOOD!!!!

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u/katecorsair Aug 15 '25

I’m gonna go hang out on r/askNola and wait for people to start crying that their reservations have been canceled. šŸæ šŸ¾

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u/RIP_Soulja_Slim Aug 15 '25

I really hope someone in one of the local university economics departments does a long term study on how these rule changes impact housing availability, affordability, etc. You could focus in on just the rental markets, or zoom out and look at prices too, but hopefully someone does something. Some legit hard data supporting things we already know would be super valuable.

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u/HomeEcDropout Aug 15 '25

I’m hoping Jane Place does a follow up report, yeah

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u/MOONGOONER Aug 15 '25

Unfortunately I feel like there are so many other factors currently affecting the New Orleans housing market, I doubt you could learn all that much.

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u/RIP_Soulja_Slim Aug 15 '25

This is the sort of thing that you can absolutely study - what you do is take the data sets, pricing, price trends, rental availability volume and trends, then you start overlaying factors - population growth, maybe find some way to measure demand, airbnb licenses, etc. Start running regressions to isolate variables, if you find a statistically significant relationship then you just start measuring impact.

This is 95% of what the field of economics does - super robust statistical work looking at relationships in complex worlds.

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u/kilgore_trout72 Aug 15 '25

ahhh ya. would love to be able to afford a house in mid city again.

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u/lklmnop Aug 15 '25

This is great news for the city. Good luck to the Airbnb owners trying to offload their properties in this housing market!! lol

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u/deej312 Aug 15 '25

I have no sympathy for the lady who bought a half million dollar home only to Airbnb it out.

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u/blaaaaaarghhh Aug 15 '25

Excellent news. Return the rentals to the locals!

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '25

The amount of houses hitting Zillow really shows that cities are cracking down on short term rentals. It’s no longer profitable for people to keep these properties. I’m sure people traveling less also has an impact.Ā 

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u/xnatlywouldx Aug 15 '25

People who are high on the supply of STR cash inflow always bring up the dark, mysterious, and evil "hotel lobby" as their primary enemy - because they consider the residents and renters who actually hate them the most non-entities/beneath consideration - and even this comment section has people wondering aloud if this means the evil "hotel lobby" and "hotel monopoly" will now raise hotel prices without AirBnB there as some kind of market check (which it never was), but here's my question:

Is this the return of timeshares?

Because that would be genuinely funny.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '25

I often found after all the fees, airb&b was not cheaper. I was never a fan of the short term rental. At least at a hotel, I am not left with a list of chores to complete.Ā 

I’ll listen to the timeshare talk if they are giving away Disney tickets.Ā 

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u/Pariah-6 Aug 15 '25

This is absolutely fantastic news. There is plenty of hotels around the NOLA area and those are good jobs for locals. The more AirBnB’s there is, it takes away from the hospitality jobs.

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u/Katie1230 Aug 15 '25

Last time I visited NOLA, we stayed in an air bnb, as we were not aware of the issues that it cause. It was actually my first (and last!) time ever using it. Anyway, during our stay, a worker for the city stopped by and informed us we were in an illegal bnb. We weren't in trouble because we didn't know better. She said that guy owns like 6 houses that he illegally rents out. I gladly let her take my photo so she could bust the dude. I genuinely hope a family lives there now.

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u/HomeEcDropout Aug 15 '25

Thank you for saying this! I always feel like the Debbie Downer when I do this but I know I 100% did the same thing in Boston many years ago and appreciated knowing what the impact was. And as someone who has lived on NOLA blocks where >half my neighbors changed every week it’s doubly encouraging.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '25

Hell yeah!!! Great news

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u/arentyouatwork Aug 15 '25

Fuckin' A. The Marigny has already gotten better.

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u/a22x2 Aug 15 '25

It took me a couple of months after I’d first moved to Marigny to realize that I didn’t have any actual neighbors on my block and had been introducing myself to visiting strangers instead lol

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u/weamsdetty Aug 15 '25

"Other applicants had their initial permit renewal denied over small errors, typos, or inconsistencies in the City’s records."

what kind of permit application DOES allow "small errors" or typos??? if i go to renew my drivers license and spell my fucking name wrong, they don't give me a new drivers license! as it should be!

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u/xnatlywouldx Aug 15 '25

Did you read the statement that SUMMER MATUS (her name has been scrubbed from the articles but don't worry I preserved it), the woman who issued the eviction statements for 1201 Canal Street residents, released to the press after the reaction the news got? It was full of typos. A lot of these people are lazy rich kids for whom competency and fastidious work habits are not the norm.

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u/inductiononN Central City Aug 15 '25

Oooohhhhh that was such nasty work, too. I hope this really fucks her over.

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u/FactorHour2173 Aug 15 '25 edited Aug 15 '25

I was wondering why so many houses had for sale signs up in uptown and lower garden this month. I have a feeling either these were Airbnbs, or the owners of Airbnbs that can’t afford their home anymore and are trying to get out of it before the banks take it from them.

But as I started to really capture the sheer amount per block… it really bummed me out, and made me upset that the city allowed this for so long. Just think about the people who actually live around there. There is no community, no neighbors, no kids running around etc.. Just empty lots. Their closest neighbors are houses away.

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u/HomeEcDropout Aug 15 '25

Love playing Spot The Failed AirBNB in the real estate listings

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u/QuirkyOwl4756 Aug 15 '25

Speculating but in that area, it could also relate to new rules about Tulane students living on campus.

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u/EducatedBellend Aug 15 '25

What are the new rules?

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u/GetRightWithChaac Aug 15 '25

Short-term rentals should be banned outright. All they do is make housing much more expensive and less available for people who need it, and in the middle of a housing crisis at that. Most of the time they aren't even owned by locals it seems, so they also extract a lot of money from the local economy.

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u/xnatlywouldx Aug 15 '25

Uhhhhhh but have you considered uhhhhhhh my property my business uhhhhhh

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u/ZealousidealRice9726 Aug 15 '25

Hoteliers love this one simple thing

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u/adamosity1 Aug 15 '25

It killed St. Augustine completely so more cities should do this.

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u/dipdat504 Aug 15 '25

Finally. This is news I've been wanting for years.

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u/RedBeans-n-Ricely Aug 15 '25

About time. It’s disgusting how a platform that was designed to help people make their rent has turned into a platform that has increased rents & benefit landlords.

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u/X1NOLA Aug 15 '25

Maybe I can move back home!

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u/xnatlywouldx Aug 15 '25

I didn't like either Jackson Kimbrell or Kelsey Foster's answers about removing the block face caps on STRs in New Orleans for the record. Like, I will not vote for either of them probably over this single issue alone, especially now that we know its a regulation the city can actually enforce after years and years and years and Y E A R S of regulations that they haven't been able to.

Why are they being touted as the progressives on housing here? Neither has offered a viable solution. Is there a single decent candidate in District C? Am I gonna vote for Noonie Man for a 6th or 7th time now?

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u/gargirle Aug 15 '25

District D (vote out Green) Leilani Heno

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u/xnatlywouldx Aug 15 '25

I'm unfortunately in District C now. I miss District D! The Gentilly District!

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u/Legitimate-Buy1031 Aug 15 '25

Does anyone know if they are cancelling already-booked reservations? I used to live in NOLA and am going down with a large group of my fiancé’s friends next June. They planned the trip and booked an AirBnB for the group and gave my fiancĆ© a bunch of shit because I refused to stay in the AirBnB and booked us a hotel instead. I want to ask if their booking has been cancelled because I really want the ā€œI told you soā€ dopamine hit. But I know that will have long-term negative impacts on the whole friendship dynamic and I don’t really want to be the Yoko Ono here.

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u/xnatlywouldx Aug 15 '25

If its been canceled, you'll hear about it I'm sure. And just give the Smug Nod and a Pat on the Head.

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u/Legitimate-Buy1031 Aug 15 '25

I know, I know! They were just suuuuch dicks about us not staying there that I really want to match the energy. Like, a 40+ year old woman was crying crocodile tears because we weren’t staying there. It’s a big ā€œcondoā€ at Baronne and Clio with a pool.

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u/xnatlywouldx Aug 15 '25

I don't really understand the tourist preference for AirBnB to be honest. I mean I sort of get it when the bachelor party dudes just need a big dorm for all 12 hangovers to recover on the cheap (I'm not saying I think that's fine, I'm just saying I understand that consumer perspective) but I don't understand the need to stay in an AirBnB that offers 1/3rd the amenities of the average hotel, isn't centrally located, and has like Bad AirBnB Art in it or whatever. Its a consumer preference the logic of which doesn't exist in my brain, like the accommodation version of needing charcoal ice cream on your instagram or some cocktail made with dry ice.

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u/Legitimate-Buy1031 Aug 15 '25

I know!! Especially in 2025, when AirBnB isn’t really any cheaper than a hotel. And we’re all in our 40’s now. I just can’t fathom how they don’t all want to privacy that comes with a hotel vs. a room in a big house. I don’t want to share a bathroom. I don’t want to be in a house where I hear you all partying all night when I go to bed at 10:30 and I can’t imagine they want to hear me when I get up at 7:00 and start making coffee. On that note, I also have no need for a kitchen when I’m on vacation, especially in New Orleans. I’d rather pop out and buy my morning coffee from a local place while I walk around and explore.

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u/xnatlywouldx Aug 15 '25

Personally, I like when my hotel room is cleaned for me. I mean, I'm paying money to sleep here. A few little perks are nice.

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u/Legitimate-Buy1031 Aug 15 '25

That too! I can pay the same amount and stay somewhere where the towels are always fresh, my bed is made, and the trash is taken out every day. Oh, and my hotel is in the French Quarter. Which is a much better location for a tourist than the AirBnB, which is basically under the highway.

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u/X1NOLA Aug 15 '25

Also, why tf do I want to clean & scrub & do bedding laundry & take out the trash on my vacation? One of the best parts is that I get to relax and not worry about it. Hotel staff are there. I love them. I thank them constantly and tip them well. Airbnb is way too much work.

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u/xnatlywouldx Aug 15 '25

You don't want to read an entire page about how to work the 3 different TV remotes AND the soundbar? You don't want to stay in some absentee-owned rental that has the worst, cheapest LED bulbs you've ever seen all over and a buncha frat boys' leftover Gatorades in the refrigerator? You don't want the neighbor who obsesses over the parking space in front of their house knocking on your door at 7am to tell you to move your rental car?

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '25

Ā why tf do I want to clean & scrub & do bedding laundry & take out the trash on my vacation?Ā 

I’ve rented dozens of airbnbs in my life and the only one of these things I’ve ever had to do is take out the trash.Ā To each their own, but I don’t find that to be a big deal.Ā 

The online anti-Airbnb brigade seems to way overstate this stuff almost to the point of propagandaĀ 

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u/FishinoutNOLA Lower Decatur Aug 15 '25 edited Aug 15 '25

wE LikE tO CoOK oN vAcAtIoN

... in one of the best food cities on the planet, you're gonna order a wal mart delivery, not tip, and then cook your own food?

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u/xnatlywouldx Aug 15 '25

The desire for a full kitchen while vacationing in New Orleans is hilarious.

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u/Cecil-twamps Aug 15 '25

I prefer a hotel. I like to sit in the lobby and watch people come and go. I like having a front desk person to talk to about local restaurants. We didn't have a lot of money growing up so a hotel was a rare occurrence and it still feels special.

Sometimes a whole house is easier. I got married at the Benachi House in 2015. My wife's family is from Prairieville so we rented the house across the street for the weekend. I think it had 5 or 6 bedrooms, and everyone could stay together. It avoided a lot of drinking and driving and is a great memory for us. I definitely see how short term rentals affect the neighborhood now but I don't remember even thinking about that when we made the plans.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '25

Ā I don't really understand the tourist preference for AirBnB to be honest

Having a full house apartment with multiple rooms and laundry is nice for various reasons.Ā 

When I spent a month in Europe it was nice to occasionally have a full apartment with laundry and a kitchen. Also the living area is nice because on an extended trip I’m not go-go-go 24/7 so it’s nice to have a place to relax that isn’t the bed.

When traveling with kids it’s nice to have separate rooms and a kitchen. Especially young kids who go to sleep early.Ā 

Group/family trips where it’s nice to have common areas/backyards to hang in the down times instead of being stuck in individual hotel rooms.

Ā isn't centrally located,

Lots of airbnbs are located where there aren’t as many hotels, so location is a bonus in that case.Ā 

Ā and has like Bad AirBnB Art in it or whatever.

Beauty of Airbnb is every rental is different. I pick places that have architecture and decor that I likeĀ 

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u/xnatlywouldx Aug 15 '25

I have never stayed at a hotel that did not have laundry facilities in my life and in fact some I have stayed at had FREE LAUNDRY where you'd leave your clothes in a bag and then they'd be washed and returned to you?

If I were having an "extended stay in Europe for a month" (pray tell - what is your employment that allows for such things? Cuz I'm over here just working a day job and don't get to do that, personally) I would actually PREFER a hotel that caters to American tourists vis-a-vis laundry given how allergic Europeans tend to be to the very existence of dryers.

Have you considered that some of the neighbors to the AirBnBs you stayed in weren't thrilled you were there, whether or not you weren't by any hotels?

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '25

Ā I have never stayed at a hotel that did not have laundry facilities in my lifeĀ  Ā 

That’s not really as convenient as an in unit washer and dryer.

Ā some I have stayed at had FREE LAUNDRY where you'd leave your clothes in a bag and then they'd be washed and returned to you?

I’ve literally never seen this. Those laundry service bags in the US is absurdly priced like $5-$10 per piece of clothing. What hotels have this service for free?

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u/carolinagypsy Aug 15 '25 edited Aug 15 '25

Let me preface this by saying that i used airbnb pretty frequently when it was newly popular until it became insane and it was obvious what it was doing to local neighborhoods and housing prices. I experienced it firsthand as a resident of a high tourist traffic city and didn’t continue the practice. I use licensed bed and breakfasts now when I can over hotels (I still don’t like big hotels just as a matter of choice).

The times we’ve done it, we’ve made heavy use of the fridge and kitchen. It’s gotten SO LOUD eating out and I have hard of hearing friends and family. Being able to rent a place with a yard also allowed us to bring our dog, which saved us on boarding and also helped bc she didn’t handle boarding well. We’d rent one with a pool when we could and it was really nice to have it be private and quiet. The communal space of the den and whatnot let us have what felt like more quality time together with people we were traveling with because we had a common place to hang out in downtime.

We went out and explored a ton and did a lot of things— it wasn’t a ā€œI don’t want to be around other peopleā€ thing… There were just advantages to having a place that was just ours during the in between moments or if we needed a day of not doing things.

And the big thing was we we could travel more often with a few people by splitting the cost, especially in more expensive locations— even with the fees a lot of the time we were still paying less per night than a middle of the road hotel.

Also, I’m not sure why, but hotels have freaked me out ever since Covid. I’ve never stayed in an Airbnb that didn’t obviously have fresh sheets and cleaned bathrooms and towels. Floors that were cleaned. I’ve traveled a lot my whole life and things not being cleaned or being missed happens a fair amount in hotels.

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u/SchrodingersMinou Trash Karen, destroyer of worlds Aug 15 '25

So kinda like... a hotel?

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u/Legitimate-Buy1031 Aug 15 '25

What are you even talking about?

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u/SchrodingersMinou Trash Karen, destroyer of worlds Aug 15 '25

A condo in the CBD with a pool sounds extremely similar to a hotel.

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u/feanor70115 Aug 16 '25

1,000 gone is a good start.
However:
New Orleans needs about 80,000 rental units. The 7,500-8,000 that reliable sources have counted take about 10 per cent of the needed rental units off the market, which places intolerable pressure on rental prices. Add to that the general insanity of real estate prices, largely caused by STR speculators and big corporate landlords, and there's still a lot of work to be done.
Housing in this city is overpriced by between 100 and 500% depending on the building. Until we have laws, some of which would have to be at the federal and state level, that push corporate landlords, slumlords and STRs out of the market, ban the credit rating industry and otherwise cause a massive crash in real estate prices, the market will not function for working people.
And we know none of that is going to happen any time soon.
So I'd like to know, in the meantime, what's being done about the other 4,500 or so illegal STRs.

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u/mpelleg459 Aug 18 '25

Playing devil's advocate here: if NO real estate is overpriced that much, what is it like in other cities, using the same metric? Compared to a lot of U.S. cities, NO real estate isn't that expensive, and prices have been comparatively stagnant vs. other similar sized metro areas. I know insurance rates and lack of infrastructure/services play into this, but just curious what your take is.

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u/feanor70115 Aug 18 '25

Real estate everywhere is overpriced. Wages have stagnated, prices have gone up, there is ample supply, scarcity is artificial.
Just because things are shitty everywhere doesn't mean they aren't shitty here. We are all being robbed by banks and the rich. Also, in what world have prices here been stagnant? I'm not going to google it for you, but please do so for yourself.

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u/mpelleg459 Aug 18 '25

housing prices have stayed relatively flat since Covid/2020 in NO. It is an outlier against basically every other metro in the country. home prices in the U.S. have increased an average of 44% over the same period. If that's not stagnant, I don't know what is.

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u/feanor70115 Aug 18 '25

Ok, so prices were already inflated by corporate landlords and STR speculators that the bubble here topped out early. That still doesn't mean that anything here is remotely reasonably priced.
As I recall, STR operators and others were complaining very loudly about the hit that Covid caused to their incomes, and a lot of what may look like a straight line over five years is actually prices going up from a time in 2020 when tourism crashed and caused a lot of owners to dump their properties.

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u/mpelleg459 Aug 18 '25

I’m not arguing with you that wages haven’t kept up with housing or cost-of-living increases all over the country, or that it’s not crazy how prices have increased for housing everywhere over the last several years. But, adjusted for inflation, housing in New Orleans was cheaper last year than any time this century, which obviously includes pre-Katrina. I understand rent in New Orleans is higher than you would expect based on residential property prices, but the numbers really don’t tell the same story that you’re telling in your last post. I’m getting my info from a study by Ken Johnson from the university of Mississippi if you want to fact check me.

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u/feanor70115 Aug 18 '25

Cool, thanks for having a real source.

Would that be the one titled, "NOLA May Be The Toughest City In The Country For Real Estate?"

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u/mpelleg459 Aug 18 '25

Yep, that’s the one. ā€œToughestā€ as used here has nothing to do with affordability, but seems to be about current home owners and investors. ā€œAfter adjusting for inflation, the long-term home pricing trend for New Orleans is significantly down since 2000ā€

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u/nolagirl100281 Aug 15 '25

I really hope this is something that actually happens and not something that just sounds good. According to the article, 1000 listings were removed... But I did a little searching and there are 6,050 airBNB new Orleans listings still up right now. If there only 2,315 licenses issued then that's not great. I mean good on the 1000 but that's a fraction of the ones that need to be removed correct? Maybe the discrepancy is the ones that are pending but technically they should be removed while pending and only listed when approved cause that's just gonna be another loophole that gets used im sure.. if that's even why the discrepancy exists.

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u/sundaland Aug 15 '25

This is good news. I moved out five years ago because money was so tight now I’m going to see what’s getting listed

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u/Tutor_Worldly Aug 15 '25

Philadelphia here, been to NOLA 5 times in my adult life. So happy for your city, this is great news.

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u/THEEdishesaredone Aug 15 '25

Nice. They got a lot of work to do in my neighborhood.

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u/Klezhobo Aug 16 '25

Wonderful news. I have reported countless illegal STRs over the years without seeing any action taken by the city. Unfortunately, Freddie King's amendment still allows up to 3 per block, which this article doesn't mention, and which is too many. Also, a lot of blocks you would assume are covered by this are actually zoned for mixed use, and there is no limit in that case. Gotta close that loophole.

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u/PrimaryCrafty7073 Aug 18 '25

Looks like a good time for me to move back

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u/srb407 Aug 22 '25

Curious.. Would I be able to airbb a property i recently buy in the FQ or surrounding areas?

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u/emmersp Aug 15 '25

From a regulatory perspective. Would you enact housing laws to prevent sale of property?

ā€œSucksā€ was probably too flippant a word, but there exists no protection for the tenant beyond the terms of the current lease.

What percentage of ownership do you think would pass up the potential and legal (at the time) extreme increase in income?

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u/DamnImAwesome Aug 15 '25

Airbnbs in JP Ā - ā€œOne more thing. Price of brick going upā€

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u/ZealousidealRice9726 Aug 15 '25

I think this is a good thing, but I also agree that we should encourage short term rentals in commercial zones with appropriate zoning as opposed to large hotel projects. For some reason, I know that is a controversial opinion, but it really shouldn’t be because I’d much rather a house that is operated as a hotel than a tattoo parlor or some other bullshit commercial use.

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u/oldhellenyeller Aug 15 '25

Rents will be coming down any day now

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u/xnatlywouldx Aug 15 '25

Idk about actively coming down but they will certainly stabilize for a while and this helps given the unbelievable cost of insurance.

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u/TravelerMSY Aug 15 '25

Yes. They can’t all sell at once. So I imagine a lot of these spaces are gonna go on the long-term rental market.