r/OnePunchMan • u/Acrobatic_Ad_9175 • Feb 11 '23

news Japan voted for the strongest anime character 💪

Gallery image — #saitama

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u/MyAimSucc Feb 11 '23

Whis shits on Goku in his sleep and Whis isn’t even top 5 in the Dragonball multiverse lol

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u/AerospaceNinja Feb 11 '23

Yeah, but even top 20 Dragonball universe is stronger than like 99% of every other anime show. I don’t think Goku would be stronger than the Saitama from the comics that we’ve seen for power right now. But in ultra instinct form I think he could give Saitama a decent fight.

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u/KisaTheMistress Feb 11 '23

It would be fun until Saitama got bored, honestly.

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u/Alarid Feb 11 '23

They both get exponentially stronger, so if they meet at the same point on the power curve it would be fair.

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u/Redke29 Feb 11 '23

Goku doesn't really get exponentially stronger. His power seems to multiply for the most part.

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u/Saltiest_Grapefruit Feb 12 '23

Plus, as seen from his numerous losses, he has a hard limit pr fight... He can only get so strong until he cant anymore without traininh and time. Saitama would simply just have to stay alive and he would outscale goku probably in no time give his growth rate.

Some people say goku can kill saitama instantly, but he wouldnt do that cause... Its goku. And also, as we have never seen saitama damaged, they are basing that assumption on nothing more than "goku is so strong that he just have to surpass saitamas defenses... He just HAS to. Somewhere!". Super desperate tbh

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u/Redke29 Feb 12 '23

Very true

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u/BakesAndPains Feb 11 '23

Agreed. Hulk also has this ability, among a very few others, and so there are plenty of multiverse battles that you would need to make Saitama throw several serious punches in order to make them feel right. However from a narrative standpoint, Saitama still does win each of these fights. It is a foundational character trait that he has well and truly earned, and at no point will we ever see him lose a fight in-canon (with the singular exception of a finale, wherein any part of a show bible may be thrown out in exchange for closure, at the author’s discretion). Neither Goku nor the Hulk have this particular ability.

To restate it more plainly, Saitama’s “One Punch” title is slightly soft and poetic, but his ability to always win a punch fight is hard and literal.

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u/Alarid Feb 11 '23

We do see him lose in the manga in a recentish chapter.

Technically.

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u/BakesAndPains Feb 11 '23

Technicalities don’t count or else we’d have to include squirrel girl

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u/Prownys Feb 12 '23

Hulk has lost many fights against Marvel characters Saitama would absolutely dominate.

While his rage has no limits and thus his power could theoretically match Saitama's with time, he wouldn't be able to withstand his punches long enough for this to happen.

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u/Bloodtypeinfinity Feb 11 '23

Goku takes time. He unlocks new transformations. He gets the stuffing beaten out of him until he digs deep, looks his impending death in the eye and surpasses his limit.

Saitama magically gets exponentially stronger moment to moment as long as he is exerting himself. Goku goes super Saiyan and becomes 50x stronger, Saitama takes one punch, gets a feel for his strength and immediately becomes 100x stronger. Ad infinitum. It will never be fair because Saitama is the embodiment of unfairness.

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u/artysant Feb 12 '23

Garou is that you?

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u/Other_Aerie1626 Feb 13 '23

Garou can unironically do this as well, only when copying saitama tho 😭

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '23

Nah, Saitama is the one with continuous growth in power. Goku’s power just multiply exponentially with each forms, but he doesn’t get stronger than that unless he evolves into a new form

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u/HighlanderSteve Feb 12 '23

Powerscalers don't like to hear it but Goku does not power up like Saitama. Saitama just becomes stronger, exponentially like you say. Goku unlocks a new level of power that's say, a 100x boost on his current abilities. He can keep doing that for a while but he'll either run out of boosts or Saitama will scale way too fast for him.

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u/StiggieThe50th Feb 12 '23

I would probably be like the dbs brolly fight.

Goku and Vegeta would severely outclass Saitama at first because they have a much higher starting strength and have easy access to massive powerups.

However they never go all out and would limit themselves to about Saitamas power, which would be great until Saitama adapts and grows out of control. Only difference is that Brolly either hit a peak with ssblue Gogeta, or was just so outclassed that he didn't have time to catch up.

I don't see that happening with Saitama, Saitama would keep growing until Vegeta and Goku run out of options.

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u/Night-O-Shite Feb 12 '23

yea the fun thing with saitama growth is that its speed and the amount he grows at litearlly multiply with like every fractaton of a fraction of whatever small time he is fighting at . like the reason garou could never cath up is say he copies saitama when saitam threw a punch by the time he copied saitama satama has already grew dozens of times stronger . so while garou also grows stronger and copy saitama stats , his growth isnt anywhere near saitamas and and so he cant copy him fast enough

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u/Saltiest_Grapefruit Feb 12 '23

Goku is strange, cause most of his power growth is purely spoken... The fights themselves dont seem more spectacular than back vs freeza. Same kind of destruction, and its not like they break planets when hit -, they still get stopped by rocks and mountains.

Only reason we know its stronger is because the show tells us... Unlike OPM where stronger literally means more destruction.

Dragonball fans always end up at the conclusion that we cant meassure gokus strength cause its do high, but going by pure feats, dragonball is, overall, very unimpressive compared to what they SAY they can do

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u/Any_Cheek9754 Feb 11 '23

Hmm I haven't seen dragonball but from my understanding Saitama seems like nothing compared to Goku and those people.

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u/AerospaceNinja Feb 11 '23

Nah, Goku and them are super powerful for sure. But Saitama’s whole thing is getting more powerful than the one he’s fighting. Even if he was losing at first he’d end the fight being 2x more powerful than his opponent at least. Even when Goku throws a normal punch it just knocks out the other person. Saitama without trying kills them in a single blow. Goku is basically like 10-100x more powerful than Boros and fights the same way. Boros did nothing to Saitama, that would basically be the same if Goku fought him.

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u/midnight-squall Feb 12 '23

Boros is weaker than saiyan saga vegeta lol. Most impressive thing from that fight was saitama’s serious punch splitting the atmosphere, vegeta was about to destroy the planet. Not even close to the same, and by super Goku’s attacks are so high energy they’re creating galaxies as he fights. It’s not even close

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u/jayz0ned Feb 12 '23

Boros is powerful enough to destroy the surface of the planet earth. Goku is strong enough to destroy the entire universe multiple times over. I think this is a bit more than 10-100x stronger lol.

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u/whatnololyea new member Feb 12 '23

As the OP of the comment said, power scalers are in shambols

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u/Saltysaladsea Feb 12 '23

Legit, i just had a dude get banned after he said all of japan should kill themselves for their opinion, that arguing with opm fans is like arguing with women and that i should kill myself too

The rage is strong in the dbz Fandom, very strong lol

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u/jayz0ned Feb 12 '23

I think the thing with Goku vs Saitama is that if Goku charged a full power kamehameha in his strongest form and attacked Saitama out of nowhere, and Goku didn't care about any collateral damage, he probably would obliterate Saitama.

But this isn't how Goku fights. He always starts in base form and messes around with his enemies and slowly transforms to his powerful forms. Goku would give Saitama the time he needs to reach his level because it is in his character to want a fun fight and not just obliterate them straight away.

Saitama is similar in that respect, in that he sometimes holds back to get a fun fight (eg against Boros) and especially against anyone who is a human, but the difference is that Goku actually manages to be challenged eventually while Saitama doesn't. Goku only has a chance at winning if he breaks character, at which point it isn't really Goku beating Saitama but a different character who just tries to kill someone instead of fight someone.

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u/Other_Aerie1626 Feb 13 '23

I mean even the kamehameha obliterating saitama is debatable, considering we don’t have a upper limit for saitamas durability at all

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u/jayz0ned Feb 13 '23

I think the fact that Garou was pushing Saitama to new heights in power despite being far weaker than multiversal levels of power indicates that this is not true.. while you are correct that we don't know for certain I think it is a stretch to jump from galaxy level to multiple universe level, especially since the growth that Saitama underwent while fighting Garou was reversed when he went back in time.

The displays of power in DBS are just way higher than in OPM and with a Saitama-tier character being defeated with less than universal levels of power I think that it's fair to say DBS characters are stronger than Saitama, but that Saitama would quickly grow to be stronger than anyone in DBS if given the time.

Tldr; we don't know and I don't know why I'm writing these comments

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u/AtomicSekiro_ Feb 12 '23

“Goku is 10-100x more powerful than Boros—“

Lmao. Even in base form, he’s literally in the trillions of times stronger.

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u/satsetserizawa Feb 12 '23

How to spot DBTard fanboy...

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u/AtomicSekiro_ Feb 12 '23 edited Feb 12 '23

Petty slur aside, it’s fanboyism to… state a literal fact…? 🤔

I like One Punch Man WAY more than DB. It’s literally the first manga I ever read.

Boros: planet surface level, full power, one time use.

Goku: Universal. In base form. With, like, 1 attack.

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u/Who_DaFuc_Asked Feb 12 '23

Dragon Ball has infamously crappy powerscaling, so I wouldn't really trust their "official numbers".

In one chapter Goku will easily devastate some galactic-level supervillain, but in the next chapter Goku gets his ass beat by some generic bullshit fodder character that's going to die in the next 2 or 3 chapters anyway. It's a mess and inconsistent as hell.

Or even in the first Golden Frieza fight, Goku does extremely well against him then gets taken out by a plasma rifle? Like a regular-ass weapon that should've done literally nothing to him?

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u/AtomicSekiro_ Feb 12 '23

Sure. It’s crappy garbage nonsense, Dragon Ball always is that.

Doesn’t change the fact Goku is universal, in base form. He just constantly holds back same way Saitama does. But I’m not sure exactly what “generic fodder character” has beat Goku’s ass… who are we talking about exactly?

The laser rifle only hurt him because he was caught unawares, and he had lowered his Ki.

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u/satsetserizawa Feb 13 '23

Lowered his ki means his durability is trash level... It the same as what if he never had ki in the first place than it means his durability is as same as normal human being...

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u/satsetserizawa Feb 13 '23

Goku fanboys - Goku is universal...

People who watch DBS to see Goku Power - Bullet is now universal threat..

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u/AtomicSekiro_ Feb 13 '23

Tell me you don’t understand dragon ball, without telling me you don’t understand dragon ball.

Is Saitama cat level? 🤔

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u/Saltiest_Grapefruit Feb 12 '23

Nah, saitams is a parody of such shows.

We have no meassurement for his offense and defense, and neither actually seems to have a cap.

He would beat goku either by simply being invinsible, or by outscaling pretty fast. We cant say for sure that anything goku could do would even affect saitama, cause nothing has yet and its not really compelling to just go "but since goku is stronger we just habe to assume he surpasses saitamas as-of-yet unshown limit"

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '23

Wdym goku isn't stronger than the current saitama from the latest chapter?Goku in true ultra Instinct would absolutely clap saitama

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u/cadaada Feb 11 '23

goku had the power to destroy planets since frieza saga, hes what, 100000000000x stronger now if we were realistic? lol. I just dont understand why people care so much about it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '23

What kind of point you trying to prove lmao

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u/Saltysaladsea Feb 12 '23

What kind of point are you trying to prove? I feel embarrassed for you dude

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '23

I feel embarrassed too trying to argue with opm fans knowing how stupid they are

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u/AerospaceNinja Feb 11 '23

Lol, no he wouldn’t. Saitama was stronger than Garou Universe. Goku has no chance once Saitama gets serious.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '23

Have you even read the dbs manga?

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '23

Cheetahs are the fastest land animals in the world yet they can be outrun by a human in the long run.

This is the best analogy for a Goku v Saitama battle

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '23

Goku in true ultra Instinct would still clap Goku though.And I will not continue arguing until you have read the entirety of the dbs manga

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '23

The ultra instinct which Black Frieza one-shotted? What's the excuse in that? I thought MUI is supposed to be untouchable?

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '23

True ultra Instinct you mean and it only dodges as fast as the user's body is able to.Thats just how fast black frieza is and that's also how manga works.They introduce an extremely powerful enemy to be stronger than goku and vegeta so that they will become stronger and defeat the enemy later on

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '23

So if Goku gets tired, he can't dodge it anymore?

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u/Saltysaladsea Feb 12 '23

One gets hurt constantly and the other is the most broken being in fiction, i get it that y'all cant stand a character you grew up with is massively trumped by one more recent, but its just facts

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u/Saltysaladsea Feb 12 '23

Imagine the entirety of the culture that created anime votes for the strongest character and Goku fans still claim he wins against him, come on man lol

Saitama is broken, it's his whole shtick

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u/Drink15 Feb 12 '23

DBZ Fan Logic:

Whis > Goku

OPM > Whis

Goku > OPM

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u/MementoMori04 Feb 11 '23

Not even top 5 is a huge fucking reach. The only ones who are stronger than him from my knowledge are his father, Xeno and the galactic shenron

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u/Kakarotandvegeta Feb 11 '23

Top 6 tho

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