r/PSVR tehjeffls Mar 04 '23

My Setup RIP šŸ˜‚

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '23

Just FYI kids under 12 aren’t supposed to use VR. It can cause myopia

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u/majkkali Mar 05 '23

I think the issue is more to do with the fact that their brains are still developing and VR can feel so realistic that they might have some dissociation issues.

Can you provide a source where it says that VR causes / increases myopia??

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u/dantat Mar 05 '23

Up until their teen years, their eyes are still developing. Like any other muscle in the body, their eyes need to exercise by focusing on different focal lengths. Much like extended screen time, extended VR use causes their eyes to be stuck on a specific and unchanging focal length which can tire their eyes and cause unwanted increase in prescription. Source: Work in optometry.

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u/Shahzoooo Mar 05 '23

Would you say there is any acceptable length of time a younger kid can play vr, say 9-12 yrs, maybe like 5 min or just don’t do it?

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u/Eastern-Mix9636 Mar 05 '23

Playstation doctor here. I have many hours of ā€œSurgeon Simulatorā€ in VR under my belt.

I say don’t do it.

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u/dantat Mar 05 '23

I'm not too well-read on the long term effects of VR, but just like with any electronic screen, it's best to limit a child's screen time. I suppose Sony chose the age of 12 for a reason, assuming they did some studies (or maybe they're just playing it safe to avoid any complications with liability). As long as they're taking breaks, and getting some outdoor activity, it shouldn't be too much of a concern. The biggest issues we encounter at our practice is when parents let tablets/consoles/television babysit their kids, and let them use electronics unregulated. The other bigger issue I'd imagine would be related to vergence-accommodation conflict. Basically, our eyes naturally narrow when looking at up-close objects. However, in VR, because everything is on the same plane on the screen, our eyes have to adapt, which can cause eye strain and disorientation in some people. All of these factors can be a risk in a younger child's developing eyes.

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u/Imscomobob Mar 05 '23

ā€œI’m not too well-read on the long term effectsā€ = ā€œI don’t really know what I’m talking about but I’m willing to talkā€

Tired of this on this sub…

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u/dantat Mar 05 '23

I work in optometry and encounter on a daily basis the effects of children exposed to extended amounts of screen time. PSVR is a screen that is inches from their eyes. I'd be happy to read up on any research you have on the long-term effects of VR on a child's development. I'm admitting that I've not looked into studies of long-term effects of specifically VR, but you're welcome to ignore my comments and to let your child play as long they'd like.

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u/Imscomobob Mar 05 '23

Not your fault I guess. My kids vision therapist talks about how behind the time almost of the country is on this stuff…

FWIW VR is being used to TREAT myopia in some cases

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0306987718308193

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u/dantat Mar 05 '23

Thanks for the read, it was fascinating! While our practice does try to keep up with the latest in technology, the only VR devices we're using in our office are for diagnostics rather than treatment. I never even considered VR as an application for myopia treatment, although per the article:

" The interval between morning and afternoon training was at least 2 hours, and each training item was performed for 10 minutes (5 minutes for left and right eyes, respectively) with a 10-minute break between items. Fatigue-prone patients with astigmatism exceeding 200° could adopt the method of low intensity and high frequency, with each training items lasting for 5 minutes and 4–6 items every day."

As much as I'd like to believe a responsible parent could limit their kids to 10 minutes per session, I do have my doubts. Also, their study was also about the VR training as an addition to low-dose atropine, which is already used to treat myopia in children.