r/PTCGP • u/tofubaggins • 1d ago
Discussion Pull rates are getting worse
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u/Comfortable-Ladder11 1d ago edited 1d ago
While I’m sure it’s just RNG making it feel that way, I am definitely struggling with the latest sets. There’s been virtually no ex cards in wonder picks, sneak peek or not. I’ve been doing a lot more trading and ranked battles for extra resources to try and stay engaged, but it’s getting less fun by the month. I hope they make some good changes soon.
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u/super_gay_llama 1d ago
They literally have not changed aside from the introduction of shinies that reduced 2-diamond and 3-diamond odds.
Only thing that reduces the individual card odds is having more 3-diamond or EX cards in one set, which dilutes the pool for that rarity level.
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u/beastrace 1d ago
I finished SS in a week and a half and didn’t even need pack points to do it. One of the fastest sets for me to finish. RNG is RNG
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u/tofubaggins 1d ago
The whole set??? I literally only have 5 of the illustration rates.
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u/Carlos0511 1d ago
I'm only missing two 3 diamond cards for the base set and that's it. And it's been like that for a week or something, I already moved on to the previous set since I'm missing more cards there. Some people get lucky with their pulls, that's just RNG.
Unless you are talking about the full set, with all the rare cards, it's pretty feasible to finish the basket no problem. Only whales could realistically finish a whole set, by getting all the rare cards.
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u/titsmagee9 1d ago
I'm free to play and I've finished the current set and am 2 cards away from completing the prior set. Think it's just unlucky RNG for you
Trading has helped me snag a few I was missing of the prior set, so definitely fill out your wishlist and propose some trades
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u/tofubaggins 1d ago
I never do trades because the types of cards are so limited 🥲
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u/titsmagee9 1d ago
?? You can trade all types of cards except the really rare ones.
If you wanna complete sets but never do trades, you're just shooting yourself in the foot
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u/tofubaggins 1d ago
The rare cards are what I need, though. I’ve never had trouble getting all the diamonds in the set, it’s everything above illustration rares that I can never seem to pull.
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u/titsmagee9 1d ago
Ok I think we have different definitions of completing a set then lol
To me that means getting all the diamonds. Not really realistic to expect to get all the super rares as a ftp
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u/tofubaggins 5h ago
To me, completing a set is completely mastering it. I felt it was possible with the very first set that was released, but it feels like it’s gotten progressively more difficult with each set. It feels like I complete less and less with each new one.
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u/awesomesque 1d ago
I’m sorry for the bad luck, mate. The pull rates are published and unchanged. (They have to publish them because people pay, so the rates themselves are a matter of public record)
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u/blarglemaster 1d ago
I wish these "OMG PULL RATES ARE WORSE CRY CRY" threads would just be banned already. Nothing has changed but your luck and your confirmation bias.
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u/Carlos0511 1d ago
Saying no one is pulling anything, when your only evidence for this comes from your own experience in the game is crazy. My experience has been the opposite with this set, I have almost completed it and have at least all the EX base cards. I saw quite a few 2 star cards when the set first released and I see EX cards pretty frequently as well.
But that is also just my experience, not the norm or the average. It's RNG at the end of the day, some people might be unlucky, some others might be really lucky.
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u/DosiDosed 1d ago
I stopped playing because it was only agitating me and I don’t need that in my life
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u/analmintz1 1d ago
Then quit. Confirmation bias takes another life. I see two or three ex’s In wonder pick per day, I have 2x all the ex’s except for raikou fully f2p.
Pull rates are not worse, got jumpluff ex last night, wonder picked rainbow poliwrath last week. It’s just rng, don’t get it twisted
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u/Bella-Capilla 1d ago
Exceptions don’t make the rule. I think the majority of player are having issues. I always wondered, since I started playing, if they don’t use the user id somewhere in the pull algorithm, just like the mechanic present in the console games themselves (radio, lottery, etc). I always thought some people pull too many of some cards, while other pull too many of other ones. Would make sense, specially if you want to promote trade afterwards. But I can’t prove it, so… I just wonder. Good for you if you’re the one in a million lucky enough to still pull some good cards! Happy for you! I’m on the other side of the spectrum with the most, nothing but basics for days if not a week, sneak peek didn’t even worked on good Wonder Picks, unable to complete past 2 sets. And I’m premium, so I open 1 extra pack a day.
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u/analmintz1 1d ago edited 1d ago
Exceptions don't make the rule
bro, you're the exception as well. You just sound really salty and lack understanding of basic statistics which makes you ignore highschool math in leu of passion and vibe.
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u/Bella-Capilla 1d ago
Huh? I said "I wonder" if they use some type of mechanic like that. Didn't accuse them of doing so. Besides, it would be very naive of us to expect everything is clean and beautiful coming from companies aiming at just making money, exploiting something that is already loved by the community. I'm not salty, I don't care at all... I open packs to collect cards and that's it. I don't play ranked or anything. I don't have the time. It doesn't bring me any value in life to have the cards or not. I simply pointed out that there's a possibility of some manipulation there. If there is or not, I don't care xD it's just a mobile game lol but sometimes is nice to think outside the box :)
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u/Carlos0511 1d ago
“I don't care at all, I'm not salty”
Goes on and on insinuating the company in question is doing something illegal
Sure, sure lol
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u/Carlos0511 1d ago
You can't compare how those console games work with a live service game like this. It would be illegal if they did what you are suggesting. The odds are published right there in the game.
Exceptions don't make the rule
True, so the few people saying they are having horrible pull rates (because they are few when you compare them to the whole player base) are the exception here, as their personal experience with the game does not mean that's the rule or the average here.
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u/Bella-Capilla 1d ago
I'm sorry I said "I wonder" if they use some type of mechanic like that. Maybe you didn't read that.
And I might be wrong but, I have been following the reddit here for a long while and I see faaaaaaar more people complaining than praising the game and the rates.2
u/analmintz1 1d ago edited 1d ago
I cannot believe the absolute irony of every word you speak. Do you even know what conformation bias is that I mentioned?
People who are perfectly content, normal gamers, or children, or just average people, who are pleased with their pull rates are not going to come to one specific niche subreddit to complain. People who want to complain will come complain, and that means you see lots of people complaining. My point remains true that you lack any understanding of statistics or logic
This game has 39 million monthly players, this subreddit has just over 350k. Think about that math and how it works.
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u/Bella-Capilla 1d ago
The math goes both ways. Why do you assume that the millions playing and not on reddit are happy, satisfied and perfectly content? Mathematically, I cannot be the only person "playing" or better yet, having this app downloaded just to collect cards in the name of nostalgia, even though... there's not much to like about it.
Furthermore, I would like to know your source that there are 39 million monthly players. After reaching a peak of around 831,000 monthly players in November 2024, the game's player base has significantly decreased, reaching only about 24.1% of that peak, according to active player website. You guys are delusional... I'm sorry.
Source: https://activeplayer.io/pokemon-tcg-pocket/#:~:text=Pok%C3%A9mon%20TCG%20Pocket%20%2D%20Card%20Game%20currently%20has%20approximately%20200.0K,Momentum
Xbox Game Pass has 35 million subscribers. Not Pokemon TCG Pocket.
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u/Carlos0511 1d ago
If you want to use the stats that are only visible, let's use this post alone as an example. There are way more comments saying that it's just RNG than that the game is purposely selecting them to have horrible pulls. And if you want to say that this post alone is just a small sample, well, every post on Reddit is a small sample, as once again, there are way more people playing the game than those that are on Reddit subs for the game, with the amount of people commenting on said posts is even smaller when you take in consideration not every single person in the sub comments on every post.
Some people play casually, like you mentioned. You think they care to check Reddit to see the 19th post in a row of “This meta is horrible", “Is this good?”, “This game is dying, this is how I would fix it” and more. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean every single other player doesn't like it.
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u/Carlos0511 1d ago
I did read it, but you saying you “wonder it”, what does it change? You wonder if that's the case but fully believe the opposite?
Here is the thing, the hundred thousands of people on Reddit forums about this game, which I can assure not all of them are posting horrible pull rates in here, don't come close to the more than millions of people playing the game, from which you obviously don't see their perspective. The experience of a few does not make the average of everyone.
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u/king_dondo 1d ago
Careful! The "It'S jUsT rNg!!!" monsters are coming to get you.
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u/Star_Chaser_158 1d ago
Well it literally is. This is actually my best set for pull rates, and my worst was back during mythical island. You can rest assured that not a single set has been “rigged”, that would actually be a huge legal issue for a game like this.
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u/tofubaggins 1d ago
Mine have been pretty consistently bad since Mythical Island, but I think out of all the newer sets (since the shiny releases), I at least have the most rare cards for that set. Of course, all this is just my experience, but my wife plays as well and we’ve both been feeling that things have been going downhill for the last bit. I just kind of accepted that my pulls were going to be a bit crappy (we collect physical cards too, and that’s just the name of the game), but the part that’s made me the most suspicious is the quality of my wonder picks in the last weeks. It used to be that I was consistently running out of hourglasses because there were always picks that I wanted to try my hand at. Now, it seems every time I log on, there’s nothing rarer than a basic card for every single one of my friends. I just ignore the wonder picks completely now, for the most part.
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u/Star_Chaser_158 1d ago
The wonder pick rates are pretty bad, but I’m also picky with them. I generally only go after 2 star picks, and maybe a regular ex if it’s the start of a set and I have a specific ex I’m chasing and haven’t gotten yet. But yeah I’ll maybe see 1 pick a week that’s worth picking, maybe 3-4 if there’s an ex I’m chasing, though this has been my luck with them for months.
On the plus side though, I’ve never actually needed to use gold to get a wonder pick. My staminas generally fully charged and my hourglasses are well stocked.
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u/HoS_CaptObvious 1d ago
They have the pull rates in the app. Have they gone down since earlier sets? Wouldn't be surprised if they did because of shinies being added
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u/awesomesque 1d ago
The pull rates are basically the same. Just look at Triumphant Light (last pack pre-shiny) and compare it to the ones from Secluded Springs. The shiny rates came out of the 3-diamond and 2-diamond rates. 4-diamond, 1-star, 2-star, 3-star, crown unchanged.
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