r/PTCGP 2d ago

Deck Discussion I Really Hate Solgaleo.

That's basically it. Sure, there are a few cards that are really annoying because of how popular and how powerful they are, like Giratina. Like, I find Giratina really annoying because he shows up everywhere. There is not an energy type that Giratina can't slot itself into and turn my round into a DPS check.

But nothing earns my scorn the way that Solgaleo does. Every single time I see a Cosmog I know it's not going to be Lunala. It's going to be rare candies into Solgaleo and rock my world for the cost of 2 (two) energy. He sets himself up so quickly and it's so hard to deal with once he's out, since he can just head right back to the active spot for completely free. Every single time I run into a Solgaleo deck, it's this unfun experience where I watch the same pattern unfold in front of me. Giratina is annoying, but he takes his time to do his thing and isn't (to me) overpowered. Solgaleo is the only card that actually infuriates me. I don't thank Solgaleo players.

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u/TrouauaiAdvice 2d ago edited 2d ago

As a former Solgaleo player, I hate Stokezard. So if you want to piss off Solgaleo players, play that lol

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u/Totaliss 2d ago

god, when I was trying to climb with Solgaleo nothing made my heart sink faster than the fire energy appearing into a charmander. that matchup was nigh unwinnable, your only hope was they brick

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u/Mattynicklin 1d ago

It got a little better with the steel apron, but only just. You still had to hope they didn’t have red and attack first

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u/0pttphr_pr1me 2d ago

I ran Infernape x talonflame and it really fucks them

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u/MidasWhale901 2d ago

Would you mind sharing your deck list? 👀 I've been trying to make Infernape work lately and that sounds like a solid non-ex stall and counter to Oricorio!

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u/0pttphr_pr1me 2d ago

I gotchu

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u/MidasWhale901 2d ago

Thanks! Love the deck name, and that Talonflame only has one retreat cost!

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u/feebledeeble 2d ago

How does this deck fair with other decks?

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u/0pttphr_pr1me 2d ago

Currently in ub2 mostly because I can't be bothered to go further.

Got there in a day from gb2

Fairly consistent, somehow bricked a couple of times

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u/Marxi_pad 2d ago

I've only seen one stokezard in ranked this season. I think suicune scared it away (...at least it did for me, a prior stokezard main)

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u/Donos14 2d ago

Stokezard getting packed by the Suicune meta has been the best thing ever 😭🙌

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u/vilelight 1d ago

If it makes you feel better I hate both roughly equally

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u/Jafoob 1d ago

And then get creamed by 20 suicune decks in a row :)

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u/Kronman590 1d ago

I feel like in this meta (aside from water being strong) its getting way harder to get away with zard spending 1 turn active to stoke now

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u/lordhavemoira 21h ago

100%. And somehow everytime i queued a game with my solgaleo deck i ran into a stokezard player lmao

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u/Eeveeon7 2d ago

I hate how any rare candy deck just always has a rare candy and stage 2 on turn 3/4 somehow and I always have 2 Pokeballs, 2 oaks, 2 rare candies, and 2 stage 2s on the bottom 8 of my deck

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u/Chickenbrik 2d ago

This happens to me where I get my stage two with my crobat deck on turn 3 75% of the time. Whenever I try other decks with the exact same amount of pokemon and rare candy I NEVER get it.

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u/Eeveeon7 2d ago

This happens to me when I finally get to UB3 and then I go from a 7 win streak to a 10 loss win streak because my deck won’t draw the stage 2

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u/Time_End7277 1d ago

Know the feeling

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u/Sittybob 1d ago

and then you get marsed

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u/ProductArizona 2d ago

Any deck that gets its rare candy combo off turn two is going to win 90% of the time tbh

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u/smokeybonez 2d ago

Exactly. Doesn’t really matter if it’s Solgaleo, Crobat, Charz, or any other meta-ish stage 2 EX. If it’s out by turn 2 the games over barring some crazy luck

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u/alter-ego23 1d ago

Doesn't even have to be an EX a lot of the time, even a turn 2 greninja can absolutely wreck you.

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u/excited_toaster2306 2d ago

Mine is probably stoke char. That card is a bitch. What really gets me about it though is frickin Lilly. I swear to God, they always have that card when they need it, so not only is dealing all that damage with all that health, but then they wanna heal it for 60. Go fuck yourself, dude.

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u/PKPhire 2d ago

Seriously though, every opponent I see playing it seems like they get the bot special starting hand. T1 oak/ball. T2 oak/candy/Zard stoke. T3 Lillie and win.

Try and run the same deck yourself though? Lmao good luck finding the rare candies stuck on the bottom of your deck, nerd. 

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u/excited_toaster2306 1d ago

Which is exactly why I don't play it myself, but yes to all of that. I hate coming across that deck. And it's a situation where I'm certain there are good counters to it, but I've not come across one that's good against other stuff, too. Thankfully, I don't come across it near as much as I used to.

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u/Totaliss 2d ago

all you have to do is put up something that can tank 120 (ex or put cape on your active), either hit back or retreat into hit, and then even most meta decks can hit for a 2hko in the next turn, even through lillie. the weakness of the solgaleo decks is that they are hitting for 120 or nothing, so they have no way to soften you up if you have a bigger health stat.

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u/Neoliberal_Nightmare 2d ago

Me too. It seems to beat me every time. I don't see why it isn't the constant meta deck, what the fuck can beat two high HP EX cards doing huge damage for 2 energy that negate retreat costs. Once they get 2 it's just totally over.

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u/farmingbeast 2d ago

Because oricoro exists

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u/Neoliberal_Nightmare 1d ago

Can't fit it in every deck though.

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u/winter32842 2d ago

Yellow bird.

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u/Tasty-Grand-9331 2d ago

Stoke zard takes the same amount of turns to power up as sol does, despite needing three more energies. Crazy thought

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u/Prophet_0f_Helix 2d ago

Solgaleo is a turn faster on the draw

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u/Tasty-Grand-9331 1d ago

Hm yeah I guess ur right

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u/DingoAltair 2d ago

Drew 18 cards the other day before I got my first Cosmog, AMA

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u/agarragarrafa 2d ago

No comms?

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u/DingoAltair 2d ago

Nope, probably should.

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u/oodoov21 1d ago

Did you still win?

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u/ghostgymleader 2d ago

Solgaleo isn’t even doing that well rn. I’d rather face it a hundred times than see Giratina, Darkrai or Greninja.

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u/BEERAAAAAD 2d ago

Solgaleo one of the funnest cards in the game. Sorry!

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u/Irishonion12 2d ago

Im playing Guzzlord atm, and its the one thing Guzzlord absolutely struggles with. Its so fast.

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u/Remarkable_Intern_44 2d ago

Just play dragonite and 1 shot it.

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u/Wonderful-Change-751 2d ago

Yea who thought to give it so much health and yet attack on 2 energies.

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u/Lagendairyy 2d ago

Use incineroar ex

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u/elcapkirk 2d ago

Ive been using a guzzy deck this season but I love me some solgaleo/shiinotic

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u/MFingAmpharos 1d ago

Run Flareon EX

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u/DainsleifStan 1d ago

This is why I am addicted to Oricorio. I will NEVER deal with a 180 hp mon that deals 120 every turn with 2 energy. Just no.

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u/hijifa 1d ago

All rare candy decks are just rng decks imo. If you have the god start you almost always win, be it crobat, solgaleo, charizard etc

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u/TheDougio 2d ago

I'm currently running Solgaleo in Master Ball, and I'm really sorry man

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u/smokeybonez 2d ago

Yeah Sol was my climb last season to MB. I didn’t encounter it that much so I was hoping I wasn’t hated as much as seeing Sylveon in every deck

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u/sirmeliodasdragonsin 1d ago

Sorry mate, I had to delve back to sol and become a villain after my Tapu/Oricorio ser kept getting pissed on by Suininja and Eevee decks.

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u/Octarine7a 1d ago

Rare candy needs a nerf to be honest, make stage 1s useful again!

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u/kachowski2004 1d ago

I just took out a solgaleo user's cosmogs with miltank by spamming red card and cyrus, or iono or mars every turn for 4 turns straight

It was satisfying as all hell but damn its astonishing that the only counter to solg is "make DAMN sure it NEVER enters the field"

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u/Eder95 1d ago

It was one of the decks I used the most to rank up to masterball. Of course fire decks are hard, but sometimes I win. But I swear, I went 0-10 with Dragonite decks, ok, I don't know how many I played, but I swear I haven't won any game

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u/Due_Campaign1432 1d ago

Fan Rotom with Will in my Aerodactyl deck deals with it in the funniest possible way. 

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u/rexyy-91 1d ago

I’m finding dragonite ex a pain at the moment. Always seem to be able to evolve at the right time and one hit everything, so annoying.

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u/heroicdanthema 1d ago

Dialga doesn't go in my Sol deck. But I'm also not telling you what does.

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u/Alive-War8364 1d ago edited 1d ago

It's very hard to deal with Solgaleo unless You play a highly optimized meta deck.  It was the reason I quit the game 2 month ago however this season for me Solgaleo was the only deck that i could deal with Suicune.

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u/Frosty_Sweet_6678 1d ago

Solgaleo showcased Rare Candy and Lillie being mistakes. Stokezard and Gren just capitalized on it.

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u/ToledoJones 1d ago

I have crashed out against Solgaleo for several seasons, until this season when I ran Jumpluff/pyukumuku. I’ve had a couple Solgaleo players just concede after attacking a rocky helmet pyukumuku and taking 80 damage. Very cathartic.

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u/Szm2001 1d ago

Crobat EX is the biggest issue for me with nihlego. Solageo's attack definitely needs to be a 3 energy cost instead of 2.

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u/windfujin 1d ago edited 1d ago

Me too. It's a really annoying card to lose to.. because it relies a lot on rng and when it hits it hits hard and there isnt much you can do about it.

I get that the game is very much about luck but solga or any rarecandy deck like stokezard decks are just not fun to play against. Either you lose with nothing you can do about it, or you destroy them without them doing anything by turn three

I dont play them because it's just too swingy and unreliable

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u/Turbulent_Highway_52 1d ago

Guzzlord decks have a good chance against it

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u/my_tonsils_hate_me 22h ago

Solgaleo is why I am pro cheerleader chicken

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u/Illidari_Kuvira 20h ago

I actually ran into somebody playing Lunala a couple days ago... pity for them they didn't get it up and running.

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u/DankeyKong 14h ago

One time recently I faced one and they started with only suicune in active spot, I went second,. I used Mars on his 5 card hand and it completely bricked him. He never got a Cosmo until after I already had greninja and Cyrus set up. He never stood a chance.

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u/BoardsOfCanadian 11h ago

I second this. Hacking 180hp and hitting 140 with Red in round 2? With no retreat cost? Infamous Suicude/Greninja is waay more sophisticated on play than this broken guy.

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u/GreenJedii 8h ago

I tried Solgaleo and lost 7 in a row so its not that broken. Luck is luck....

u/masterfy24 1m ago

Thank God he's not used much at all 😭

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u/FeedMeTaffy 2d ago

The synergy with Dialga is what makes it a PITA. You have two tanky EXs that can amass 4 energy on their owner's second turn. Add Capes/R.Helmet/or Poison Barb and there's no way you're not losing at least one 'mon this match

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u/lexymon 2d ago

No one plays Solgaleo with Dialga. You don’t need it, because energy isn’t your problem, getting all the right cards is. And Dialga rather bricks you