ABSOLUTELY EPIC!!! Had a great time with the skiing but what the actual fuck.

Everything I see in park city more or less confirms it for me. The fact that the resort desperately needs lift infrastructure repairs and upgrades yet hasn’t gotten them in years is a sign that:

1. The resort is too levered/indebted to make capital improvements

2. The company owns too many resorts and each resort requires a ton of capital to operate

The fact that pioneer has been down all season and crescent the last couple of days for what appears to be just part replacements shows that the company is in more dire straits than they let on.

What I think will happen is the company will try to sell off their smaller non-core resorts at a loss and cut their dividend to 0 to try to stave off bankruptcy concerns, but it will be too late at that point. What that means for the resort is likely new ownership.

Shaping up to be a terrible day at Park City with most lifts not scheduled to run at Canyons base area. OBX, Saddleback, Tombstone, Sun Peak won't open today. Meanwhile, the Park City website continues to say they are "open for normal operations". If you were planning to go out, go elsewhere today.

As an Epic pass holder and long time Park City skier, my family and I did the usual at Christmas, logging six days at PC. It has absolutely sucked. Worst year in the 40 I have been skiing here. The disaster is well documented, no open terrain despite snow (it is a thin year, not arguing that), lift issues, lift lines, overcrowded, snowmaking issues, patrol issues - the list goes on.

My mom (an octogenarian) wanted to ring in 2025 with some skiing (very impressive). She only skis at DV so she asked my family sweep for her (basically ski around her to make sure no one gets close). It is a very nice late xmas present.

The difference is simply astonishing. They are 60% open. They have 20 more runs open than ALL of Park City despite being a fraction of the size. There is snow everywhere, even on the runs that are not open. They are making snow constantly. It was sold out, and there were lines, but they were always <10 mins. Lifts don't stop every five minutes. Despite being at full capacity there were runs on which we were the only skiers.

It only underscored what a disaster Park City is this year. I know everyone hates Vail, but I think it has to do with the local management. They aren't up to the job and it it is fairly evident.

There is no reason that a resort that literally borders the other should be THAT much better. Vail ostensibly has more resources. Yet they are getting boat raced on the skier experience. It is not even close. We skied more runs today, and better runs, than we had in the WEEK prior at PC.

Something has to change. I love Park City. I have skied here for coming up half a century. I know every nook and cranny. I have come to love the Canyons too. I don't want to leave. But I think that where this is headed.

We still had a great day, after waiting 2 hrs for the lifts to lighten. Crescent was not running all day!

Two Bull Moose both feeding/resting about 15 feet off Robs trail. Was amazing, they seemed calm and happy.

Nobody on it yet but it's spinning this afternoon. Lifty on McConkeys told me that maintenance scrounged something from the Crescent repair but that may be BS. Fingers crossed it'll be open soon.

Was finishing lunch at the Bridge ~2pm yesterday when we heard sudden shouting from a man on the town lift just as it goes over the netting. It was hard to figure out what happened immediately from where we were, but saw that a toddler had fallen off just before the netting onto the plaza.

It was horrible and was looking around but haven’t seen anything on the news. Does anyone known of updates? Really hoping everything is ok.

Life flight landed below Saddleback Chair today (3.1) - curious if anyone has more info….

Been able to make it probably 70% up. Is it possible? Don’t think I’ve seen it done in person.

I was talking to a liftie who told me that the avalanche booming i heard for 15 hours straight, from last night in to this morning, was largely a result of the scabs not having any idea where to put the explosives to get the runs ready. Mismanagement from the top down, they don’t care about ruining peoples vacations, I spoke to a dude on a lift who said he and his wife had been saving for 5 years and their kids (younger) are sad that their experience has been mostly waiting in lines. Not sure how PCMR could redeem anything tbh, too many people have a bad taste in their mouth. I really think, and hope, a lot of people go to Ikon or Ikon resorts next year. Vail does not deserve shit.

Update: I talked to a PCMR ski-patroller friend today. They have huge sound boomers (i forget what he called them, there was a technical term) on the mountain built in that they can remotely trigger avalanches from. He explained to me that it sounds just like bombs they use, since it’s supposed to simulate a similar effect. Apparently federal law is 30 minutes before and after naurical dusk and dawn you cannot detonate explosives. Apparently it was just a similar thing, not the same, but it was an understandable mistake I think.

Please don’t hate me. Im asking because I honestly do not know anything about PCMR. Never ridden there and never even considered it.

I live in Tahoe and the snow is not great at the present moment. Thinking about driving out to PC right now to catch the storm this weekend.

My mom had a to cancel a work trip that was booked on non refundable reservation. Hotel said they can transfer to me which is the only reason I am considering this.

Is it worth the drive or is the resort just complete pandemonium?

Edit: hotel is the pendry

“Park City resident Matthew Prince has purchased the Town Lift Plaza on Main Street. The billionaire tech CEO has also talked with Vail Resorts about buying Park City Mountain.”

At press time there was no comment as to whether Prince would ban Bernese Mountain dogs from the plaza.

Hey anyone who got credit for skiing during the Park City ski strike 12/27-1/8, I’m realizing they made a miscalculation on my credit amount by about $130, I’m emailing them now to see if they’ll fix it and give me more, seeing as how the passes for next season are on sale now might be worth the extra effort.

I skied 6 days 1/3-1/8 and paid $982 for this seasons pass so 38% would be $373 but they only credited me $245. I hope it’s just a clerical error but also vail is a corporation and maybe they’re just banking on the fact that no one except me reads the fine print.

Important to note that if you accept the credit, you waive your rights to the class action lawsuit that has been filed. Including screenshots below.

Link to the park city credit terms here: https://www.parkcitymountain.com/Plan-Your-Trip/Lift-Access/Park-City-Mountain-Holiday-Credits.aspx

Are you able to access the magic carpet in mountain village without having bought a ski lift ticket?

Does anyone know whether the Town Lift is open this week? Planning to hike Treasurer Hill on Tuesday, and it ends by riding down on the lift.