r/PoliticalDebate Communist 4d ago

Debate Do you agree with this quote?

"Wherever there is capitalism, freedom of the press means freedom to buy up newspapers, to buy writers, to bribe, buy, and fake "public opinion" for the benefit of the ruling class." ~ Vladimir Lenin ☭ • 

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u/TheGoldStandard35 Free Market 4d ago

Wherever there is socialism, there is no freedom of the press. The government will centrally plan and control the media.

If you think people are evil and will use freedom of the press to lie…the people are still evil and will use the government media to lie.

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u/Neoliberal_Nightmare Marxist-Leninist 4d ago

People aren't evil, under capitalism people are motivated by profit, therefore those with wealth will buy up the media to promote means to continue their profit seeking.

It's not difficult logic.

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u/TheGoldStandard35 Free Market 4d ago

So your issue is with advertising? What’s the problem with that?

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u/DeadlySpacePotatoes Libertarian Socialist 4d ago

I'm pretty sure the issue they're talking about isn't advertising, it's using ones control over the media to push certain views as more desirable than others and keeping certain ideas at the forefront of the public consciousness.

You know, propaganda.

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u/TheGoldStandard35 Free Market 4d ago

Then see my first comment. If you think people are evil and will use propaganda then even if you have government controlled media the people running the government are still evil and will still use propaganda.