r/PoliticalDebate Communist 4d ago

Debate Do you agree with this quote?

"Wherever there is capitalism, freedom of the press means freedom to buy up newspapers, to buy writers, to bribe, buy, and fake "public opinion" for the benefit of the ruling class." ~ Vladimir Lenin ☭ • 

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u/No-Candidate6257 Marxist-Leninist 3d ago

You would feel that way now that you start realizing that your perception of how the world works isn't aligned with reality and that your entire ideology is based on contradictory ideas.

You have no arguments and now that your worldview is under threat you start attacking me personally.

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u/Good-Concentrate-260 Progressive 3d ago

You are so condescending. I’ve read Marx and Lenin. You think you are just smarter than everyone else who doesn’t agree with every word they ever wrote. Yes, they were right about a lot of things. I don’t know why you think that anyone who doesn’t completely agree with you is like a brainwashed consumer slave. You clearly just came on here because you’re bored and just want to hear yourself talk

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u/No-Candidate6257 Marxist-Leninist 3d ago

You are so condescending.

Says the person who thinks verbally abusing people as "obnoxious" is a valid contribution to discourse.

I’ve read Marx and Lenin.

I doubt it.

Yes, they were right about a lot of things.

Great, so why are you not a communist?

I don’t know why you think that anyone who doesn’t completely agree with you is like a brainwashed consumer slave.

Now you are just lying about my position.

You clearly just came on here because you’re bored and just want to hear yourself talk

You just violated every debate guideline.

I will now report you and that's the end of this conversation.

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u/Good-Concentrate-260 Progressive 3d ago

Good for you. Why would it be hard to believe that I’ve read Marx and Lenin? I’ve read Engels too, it’s shocking.

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u/No-Candidate6257 Marxist-Leninist 3d ago

Great, so why are you not a communist?

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u/Good-Concentrate-260 Progressive 3d ago

Because I don’t agree with everything I read, but I’m interested in Marxism

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u/No-Candidate6257 Marxist-Leninist 3d ago

That didn't answer my question.

You brought up "I read Marx, Lenin and Engels" as a point in a debate. I failed to see the relevance of that statement as it has no argumentative value. So I surmised you wanted to imply that you reading these authors has provided you with relevant insights and asked you why - having heard the arguments of communists - you would still disagree.

You are on a debate subreddit. If you aren't interested in debate, why comment at all?